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  • DarkJedi
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    • Feb 2001
    • 28301

    #1

    FlashCash update: sales disappear from the stats

    this is what i posted earlier today:

    shows 22 sales for today




    stats have just updated, sales disappeared:




    what the fuck...
  • NTM
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    • Jul 2006
    • 1087

    #2
    It's impossible to shave with NATS!

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    • jact
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      • Sep 2002
      • 9134

      #3
      That's not good.
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      • Roald
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        • May 2001
        • 27910

        #4
        Sales dissappeared??? Probebly a glitch as it showed a fucked up ratio already.

        FlashCash? Nats?


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        • CaptainHowdy
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          • Dec 2004
          • 94115

          #5
          Ouch... ...

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          • who
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            • Aug 2003
            • 19593

            #6
            interesting ratios.

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            • beta-tester
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              • Sep 2004
              • 22562

              #7
              not good at all.....we DEFINITELY need serious explanation!!!

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              • Dejan
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                • Apr 2006
                • 8776

                #8
                That suck man try to contact them...
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                • xclusive
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 35218

                  #9
                  Wow, 20 sales just gone.

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                  • Holly
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 10017

                    #10
                    In the words of my good friend, Ricky Ricardo-

                    Looks like somebody's got some 'splaining to do.
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                    • DarkJedi
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                      • Feb 2001
                      • 28301

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dejan2885
                      That suck man try to contact them...
                      It's all over their message board, and NATS sure must have noticed todays topics on this.

                      They just wont give any comment.

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                      • JUSTB
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                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1740

                        #12
                        it looks like the only numbers that changed were today's

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                        • DarkJedi
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 28301

                          #13
                          Originally posted by QuaShe
                          Sales dissappeared??? Probebly a glitch as it showed a fucked up ratio already.

                          FlashCash? Nats?
                          It looks like the kind of glitch when someone is fucking with the code/system.

                          it's NATS we are talking about for fucks sake.

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                          • pornguy
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                            • Mar 2003
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                            #14
                            Those ratios look a bit out of whack.
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                            • pocketkangaroo
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                              • Jan 2005
                              • 8452

                              #15
                              Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.

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                              • Buddy
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1828

                                #16
                                Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display.

                                During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today.

                                We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

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                                • DarkJedi
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                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 28301

                                  #17
                                  How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS?

                                  I though sales could only be added.

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                                  • Buddy
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 1828

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Buddy

                                    We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.
                                    See above.
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                                    • Roald
                                      SecretFriends.com
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 27910

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                      Enough with the "glitch" stuff. Doesn't it seem like anytime there is a "glitch", it is one that fucks over affiliates? When was the last time there was a "glitch" that doubled your sales for the day.
                                      Actually 3 months ago, rebills showed up double for 1 program. Not NATS though ;)))


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                                      • StuartD
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                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 29903

                                        #20
                                        If those sales truly were a result of lack of fraud tracking, it's possible that those sales were removed because they were not legit sales in the first place.
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                                        • beta-tester
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                                          • Sep 2004
                                          • 22562

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                          How is it even possible to remove the sales from NATS?

                                          I though sales could only be added.
                                          well I guess, it's database side that got fucked up a little bit....it's simple query to add or remove sales...not a big deal.

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                                          • Dirty F
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                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 59204

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Buddy
                                            Guys, I think it's obvious that if you send only 24 hits and get 45 sales, then you know that there is a glitch in the stats display.

                                            During the deinstallation of the anti-fraud system some sales were verified many times over, so a single sale showed up as several sales. The glitch is fixed and NATS are setting the data to be correct again. I will post when the process is 100% complete, which will be later today.

                                            We are happy to provide you with raw processing logs so you can see that all your signups have been correctly counted.

                                            And Dark Jedi - the Flashcash help desk is: help at flashcash dot com, it is not www.gfy.com

                                            Why did you remote the anti-fraud system??

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                                            • DarkJedi
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 28301

                                              #23
                                              oh, a "glitch"

                                              okay...

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                                              • marko13
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                                                • Apr 2004
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                                                #24
                                                maybe the sales will go down again.... although i'm not wishing that to anyone...
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                                                • Roald
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                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 27910

                                                  #25
                                                  allthough I do tend to believe FC right now as your ratio seemed a bit too good to be true this whole thing still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and not only due to FC


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                                                  • jact
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                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 9134

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Franck
                                                    Why did you remote the anti-fraud system??
                                                    Might have been a case of "Give me what I wanted, not what I asked for!".
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                                                    • Roald
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                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 27910

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by marko13
                                                      maybe the sales will go down again.... although i'm not wishing that to anyone...
                                                      what?....?


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                                                      • nico-t
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                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 29901

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                        oh, a "glitch"

                                                        okay...
                                                        like it always is...... and like someone mentioned already, it's very coincidental that it always works out unfortunate for the affiliate

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                                                        • aico
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                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 14748

                                                          #29
                                                          That's more of a Trim than a Shave.
                                                          Last edited by aico; 12-06-2006, 08:37 AM.

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                                                          • Dveron
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                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 2794

                                                            #30
                                                            Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.
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                                                            • SlamDesigns
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                                                              #31
                                                              *Makes mental note* Fuck FlashCash.

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                                                              • Roald
                                                                SecretFriends.com
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 27910

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Dveron
                                                                Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too bust taking screenshits and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.
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                                                                • Theo
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                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 34515

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Dveron
                                                                  Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.
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                                                                  • Roald
                                                                    SecretFriends.com
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 27910

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                    and iraq has weapons of mass destruction
                                                                    CORRECT!

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                                                                    • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dveron
                                                                      Don't think FS are up to anything shady. They are good people just caught up in some programming errors. Seems like DJ is too busy taking screenshots and running to the board like some noob bitch instead of contacting support first.
                                                                      Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

                                                                      Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

                                                                      I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.

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                                                                      • tony_monta-na
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                                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                                        • 23

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I will stop promoting Flashcash from now on (after 2,5 years) because any other program than "Free trials" doesn't work for me. Plus, what the fuck do you need a copy of my passport for?

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                                                                        • Dveron
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                          Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

                                                                          Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

                                                                          I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.
                                                                          Never sent them a hit or seen them at a show but in the 8 years I've been doing this I've never seen anybody post that Flashcash shave or have fucked them over but then again I don't spend much time on the boards. This seems more like NATS fuckup to me and FC are caught in the middle.
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                                                                          • tony_monta-na
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                            Is this one of those things where they bought a drink at a show so they are completely void of any possible shady tactics ever?

                                                                            Seriously, whether you care for DJ or not (most don't), he posted factual evidence of his sales being removed from the system. If they were shaving, do you really think they would have replied "oh you caught us, we'll put those sales back".

                                                                            I don't know anything about FlashCash, but I know that it looks fishy anytime there is a "glitch" that ends up in a loss of sales on your totals.
                                                                            Yeah, you're fucking right. Looks kinda fishy.

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                                                                            • xclusive
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                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                              • 35218

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by QuaShe
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                                                                              • crockett
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                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 76818

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Maybe they decided they didn't like spam..
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                                                                                • crockett
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                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 76818

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same.

                                                                                  1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales..
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                                                                                  • DarkJedi
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                                                                                    • Feb 2001
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                    BTW DJ why don't you show some stats from a week back or something. Lets see if the ratio is still the same.

                                                                                    1:1 even with spam is a bit hard to believe and that's the only thing I've ever seen that can get close to those ratios. Especially with that many sales..
                                                                                    actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
                                                                                    but after the switch? things went to shit.

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                                                                                    • tony_monta-na
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                                                                                      • Jan 2006
                                                                                      • 23

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                      actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
                                                                                      but after the switch? things went to shit.
                                                                                      That's because there aren't free trials anymore...

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                                                                                      • crockett
                                                                                        in a van by the river
                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 76818

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                        actually, i used to be doing pretty good, before the NATS update.
                                                                                        but after the switch? things went to shit.

                                                                                        ok then that shows your point but IMO it seems it's some sort of stats issues, because even in this pic you are showing 1:3 ratio. The newer ones with NATs are showing 1:1 overal.

                                                                                        But there are even days with 1:0 ratio, so of course that's not possiabe. So I'd have to think it's a stats reporting issue.. But who knows what's up.
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                                                                                        • Dildozer
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                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                          • 7519

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                          this is what i posted earlier today:

                                                                                          shows 22 sales for today




                                                                                          stats have just updated, sales disappeared:




                                                                                          what the fuck...
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                                                                                          • DarkJedi
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                                                                                            • Feb 2001
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by tony_monta-na
                                                                                            That's because there aren't free trials anymore...
                                                                                            They had had free trials for 9 months after the switch to NATS.
                                                                                            Free trials were removed only 2 days ago.

                                                                                            Sales started to suck immediately with the NATS switch. It's weird, because with all the added NATS benefits (cascade billing, etc) sale should have gone up.

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                                                                                            • adultchica
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                                                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                                                              • 5141

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Flashcash has always been good to me and they always back up whatever claims they have. I'm sure that it was a glitch and they will explain what happened. I really do think the crew at Flashcash is professional and honest.
                                                                                              Last edited by adultchica; 12-06-2006, 11:09 AM.

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                                                                                              • Tuga
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                                                                                                #48

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  nice stats darkjedi

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