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How to kill an "honest" webmaster

03-09-2002, 08:23 PM

I can't believe the length some ppl go to:

(quoted from http://www.searchlores.org/fau_zar.htm)

We must and we can strike back... How should we retaliate and punish the offenders?

resubmitting the URL to the Search Engine again and again until the URL is blocked?
reporting the URL as spam/illegal content etc., if the SE is offering such an option?

Well, yes... this may work - sometimes - but not always... and for an accomplished ~Seeker~ it is just not 'elegant' to have to rely on such 'dubious' solutions.

I have devised another 'completely different' approach in order to solve this problem. An approach that has the added advantage of solving in most cases the problem forever.

... and he goes on to say shit like (I'm paraphrasing):

Set up links with the "correct" affiliate code on pages and make sure you break the TOS of the sponsor. Then report it to the sponsor. Webmaster loses $$$ and you're happy!
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03-09-2002, 08:28 PM

I'd knock that guy right the fuck out, if I ever met him
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03-09-2002, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by richard123
... and he goes on to say shit like (I'm paraphrasing):

Set up links with the "correct" affiliate code on pages and make sure you break the TOS of the sponsor. Then report it to the sponsor. Webmaster loses $$$ and you're happy!

Hey maybe thats what happens to all the 12clicks searchtraffic affiliates.

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03-09-2002, 08:30 PM

I've seen shit like this, too. Doesn't look like it would be too hard to fuck over an honest webmaster.

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03-09-2002, 08:41 PM

I can't imagine a sponsor being sympathetic to the argument if someone did that to me.

Actually, just 2 weeks ago adult friend finder canned one of my accounts because (and I quote their email):

Richard,

Unfortunately, it was a phone complaint that I received. So, I can not tell you who or where it came from. I can tell you that it was from another one of our affiliates. They said you were ....

... and that's what I got after being with them since July '99 and over $65K ($110K of orders). One phone call about an account I don't even promote anymore (but I still get the rebills). To their credit,

AFF changed their mind and unsuspended my account
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03-09-2002, 08:45 PM

It isn't hard at all to do, I personally almost canned one of our best webmasters because I was getting spam complaints. Guy would spam her dialer in chatrooms and emails and then screenshot them, send them to me saying she was spamming like a bitch. We went thru hell and back over shit like this...... same guy was doing his best to ruin several of my webmasters........... we finally got it figured out and it has stopped, but this is classic in dialers. They will spam other peoples dialers and then turn around and report them for spamming... DUH!!!!!

Little hint, one never knows where their sponsors will land next...... why they could pop into a chatroom at a moments notice.... rotfl

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03-09-2002, 08:47 PM

This might be funny for you,

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03-09-2002, 08:56 PM

If the sponsers have a brian, and if the so called spams are followed soon after with spam complaints, they should know to investigate.. especially if the affiliate doing the supposed spamming has never had complaints before. That kind of stuff should throw up a large red flag.
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03-09-2002, 09:05 PM

Well with all the big shots here... I am sure that site could be closed down pretty quick... unless dot orgs don't have to pay for BW...

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with all those unprotected images I'm sure we could get a couple million requests a day for them and shut down his server and his host account!!
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03-09-2002, 09:29 PM

haha I'am in if anyone else will do it, I got about 300k/day to play with.... and if he wants to contact my sponsors, he will only be contacting me anyways
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03-09-2002, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Scootermuze
If the sponsers have a brian, and if the so called spams are followed soon after with spam complaints, they should know to investigate.. especially if the affiliate doing the supposed spamming has never had complaints before. That kind of stuff should throw up a large red flag.

Some are more clever than all that....... they wait days or even weeks later. They are very smooth about their reporting Scooter....... LOL

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03-09-2002, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Fire
Well with all the big shots here... I am sure that site could be closed down pretty quick... unless dot orgs don't have to pay for BW...

http://www.searchlores.org/images/fravia-5.jpg
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http://www.searchlores.org/images/fv_link3.jpg
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I think that could backfire

My solution is this:
a) Whenever possible, avoid sponsors altogether and run your own site. Easier said than done, of course.
b) Only use sponsors that are known to be sensible. ("Sensible" implies a lot, but you know what I mean... Some sponsors are very well known to "shoot first" and ask questions later.)
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03-09-2002, 10:57 PM

Yeah this is definitely no joke. I had a site banking $250-$350 a day pulled offline about 1 year ago because of a fabricated spam complaint.

The host made no effort to verify anything and it took me about 1 week to get things set back up. I had no idea why I was offline and they took 36 hours to respond to my emails and their phone number was a bullshit voicemail.

A long lost memory but it is an unfortunate side of this business. If someone has no life and wants to fuck you they will succeed. Have to just keep moving forward!

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03-09-2002, 11:46 PM

you think maybe someday people will realize that no matter what people are gonna spam. lol fuck it it's not really worth getting upset about.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
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03-10-2002, 12:59 AM

I can think of a lot more ways to kill an honest webmaster (I won't post them here) and I thank god that there aren't too many malicious people out there... on the other hand though -- now I think more in terms of redundancy... there have been times when I've just been really pissed and ready to make an enemy but this is definitely not a biz to be in with any enemies...

I was discussing an advertising deal yesterday w/ one of my top trades on ICQ -- turns out he was drunk off his ass on whisky -- he was being a real prick -- I was just about ready to tell him to fuck off forever but fortunately he apologized the next day and we're back in biz again...
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03-10-2002, 01:56 AM

you gotta be a cunt to do that to someone. ive seen it happen before but not on such a big magnitude.
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