Originally Posted by quiet

i've had this problem my entire adult life. i think it started in university when i was 20, staying up all hours of the night to work on papers, refine my notes, read, etc. then when i started my company, i was really only sleeping 4 or 5 hours a day. that went on 10 years. now, i just can't sleep. today is typical. my dad is up, we played a board game, he and my girl go to sleep, and i just can't do it. totally the mind thing, it starts cranking up. the only solution i've ever found that helps is hardcore, stressful (ie: focused) exercise. snowboarding, or downhill biking depending on the season. hiking too. after a day of that, i can usually sleep for 6 hours. usually.

right now, my dad's asleep, my girl's asleep, my cat's asleep. i am wide awake and have been all night. ugh.