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Im amazed with this fleshratio ratio bs

12-03-2006, 06:46 AM

Edit: Cant fucking edit the title. Obviously i meant fleshlight.

I never seen a thread on gfy where its SO FUCKING CLEAR that sales basically stopped after moving to nats. Its not 1 or 2 webmasters who claim that, not one dozen, no like everyone whos pushing them has the same story.

Now the part that amazes me how they just say "nothing wrong here". If you have a problem please contact us blah blah.

I mean thats just crazy and really beyond me.

I dont think ive ever seen something like that before.
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12-03-2006, 06:48 AM

And the next person who claims you cant shave with NATS can suck my black cock.
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12-03-2006, 07:00 AM

They dont really run NATS. They basically just use the cookies to track the incoming traffic and from there its up to them how many sales they will credit you by adding the sales manually

And I dont understand why the hell NATS would let them use the script like they do. They Give NATS a bad name and leach off their "no shaving" image.

Fleshlight, you CHEAT your webmasters, and that is the reason your traffic down. You proberly dont give a shit because you have made so much from it now.

Do I have prove? no screenshots, but take a look at amount of people that tell the same story - go figure
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12-03-2006, 07:01 AM

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And the next person who claims you cant shave with NATS can suck my black cock.

yeah, makes you wonder huh......
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12-03-2006, 07:02 AM

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12-03-2006, 07:03 AM

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12-03-2006, 07:04 AM

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They basically just use the cookies to track the incoming traffic and from there its up to them how many sales they will credit you by adding the sales manually

No shit?
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12-03-2006, 07:09 AM

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12-03-2006, 07:16 AM

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12-03-2006, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

They dont really run NATS. They basically just use the cookies to track the incoming traffic and from there its up to them how many sales they will credit you by adding the sales manually

Pls tell me thats not true cause that would open some doors I wanna see closed

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12-03-2006, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by thinkx

Pls tell me thats not true cause that would open some doors I wanna see closed

Yes its true.
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12-03-2006, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

I would never send one hit to any kind of penile enlargement program. ZERO!!

you are all a bunch of scammers taking money from men who dream of a bigger penis. You are no better than those selling fake miracle cures to cancer patients.

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12-03-2006, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

I would never send one hit to any kind of penile enlargement program. ZERO!!

you are all a bunch of scammers taking money from men who dream of a bigger penis. You are no better than those selling fake miracle cures to cancer patients.

Alot of that stuff really works.....
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12-03-2006, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by thinkx

Pls tell me thats not true cause that would open some doors I wanna see closed

I have seen them say it themselves on this board, it is because nats is not designed for tangables......
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12-03-2006, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

They dont really run NATS. They basically just use the cookies to track the incoming traffic and from there its up to them how many sales they will credit you by adding the sales manually

And I dont understand why the hell NATS would let them use the script like they do. They Give NATS a bad name and leach off their "no shaving" image.

Fleshlight, you CHEAT your webmasters, and that is the reason your traffic down. You proberly dont give a shit because you have made so much from it now.

Do I have prove? no screenshots, but take a look at amount of people that tell the same story - go figure

You make some pretty bold statements there. Yet you state you have no proof.....
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12-03-2006, 07:23 AM

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1000th thread about fleshlight cash ratios gone bad since they moved to Nats.

Originally posted by rayadp05

I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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12-03-2006, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

They dont really run NATS. They basically just use the cookies to track the incoming traffic and from there its up to them how many sales they will credit you by adding the sales manually

If true, that's definitely interesting.

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12-03-2006, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

I have seen them say it themselves on this board, it is because nats is not designed for tangables......

What the fuck would it change ??? You explain that to me.

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I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
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12-03-2006, 07:25 AM

This is not a valid reason imho. It's common practise not to give affiliates credit in real-time for tangibles products and it's related with the additional difficulties this type of billing/shipping has compared to an online membership. CJ/Linkshare/Amazon etc they handle the most popular tangibles products. None of those will give you credit for sale in real-time and as thinkx said this opens many doors. I think you should contact them and get full info on how this process is handle. I haven't seen their stats, but do you see for example both PENDING sales (leads) and EXECUTED sales?
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12-03-2006, 07:26 AM

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You asshole, read my sig! its an exercise program designed after ancient taoist and tantric sex exercises!!!!!

The whole reason I started selling the techniques is becuase i was getting such great gains from them! i used the damn techniques for over a year before I even thought to sell them

Good stuff, I thought you had herbs, I know alot of them do work.

Exercising though, I know for sure from my own personal experience, I read about it years ago in a porno mag..... I am gonna sign up

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12-03-2006, 07:27 AM

I wonder how they are handling phone call orders, so that affiliates get credit

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12-03-2006, 07:29 AM

you can't shave with NATS!

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12-03-2006, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

This is not a valid reason imho. It's common practise not to give affiliates credit in real-time for tangibles products and it's related with the additional difficulties this type of billing/shipping has compared to an online membership. CJ/Linkshare/Amazon etc they handle the most popular tangibles products. None of those will give you credit for sale in real-time and as thinkx said this opens many doors. I think you should contact them and get full info on how this process is handle. I haven't seen their stats, but do you see for example both PENDING sales (leads) and EXECUTED sales?

ok help me out why would tang items be harder to put in realtime then nontang

I can think of items being returned, but then again non tang has cb too

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12-03-2006, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

Good stuff, I thought you had herbs, I know alot of them do work.

Exercising though, I know for sure from my own personal experience, I read about it years ago in a porno mag..... I am gonna sign up

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12-03-2006, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by QuaWee

I wonder how they are handling phone call orders, so that affiliates get credit

I doubt you get credit for any phonecall sale

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12-03-2006, 07:31 AM

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What the fuck would it change ??? You explain that to me.

I am nautral here.... But if you think about it.... Nats is design for members based sites, not goods that get shipped, nats has no way of telling if the item shiped or not....

People from fleshlights have said it thereselves, when nats was brought in there was a few issues, they said they are all taking care of and suggest any problems people are having are due to there marketing technics....
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12-03-2006, 07:32 AM

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Thanks Jon! After you signup, email me your affiliate ID to [email protected] and I'll set your account for $50 per signup, even on trials

Good stuff, thanks bro
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12-03-2006, 07:33 AM

i'm suffering of this switch to. was doing real good before the change. Now nada.
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12-03-2006, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by ForteCash

You asshole, read my sig! its an exercise program designed after ancient taoist and tantric sex exercises!!!!!

The whole reason I started selling the techniques is becuase i was getting such great gains from them! i used the damn techniques for over a year before I even thought to sell them

No it dont work. you are exploiting peoples fears and insecurity, just like Hitler did when he turned his country in to a Nationalistic socialist state.

You dont burn Jews of course, you just take peoples money. Its like The H.C Anderson fairytale "the emperors new cloth"
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12-03-2006, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by thinkx

ok help me out why would tang items be harder to put in realtime then nontang

I can think of items being returned, but then again non tang has cb too

You cant charge a customers card until an item actually ships for one thing.
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12-03-2006, 07:36 AM

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I doubt you get credit for any phonecall sale

exactly

thats like paysites with money order payment possibility / which obviously sucks

youll never get credited for those as affiliates

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12-03-2006, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by QuaWee

I wonder how they are handling phone call orders, so that affiliates get credit

Great question...? There should be some kind of extention with the numbers, anyone know if there is?
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12-03-2006, 07:36 AM

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No it dont work. you are exploiting peoples fears and insecurity, just like Hitler did when he turned his country in to a Nationalistic socialist state.

You dont burn Jews of course, you just take peoples money. Its like The H.C Anderson fairytale "the emperors new cloth"

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12-03-2006, 07:37 AM

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you can't shave with NATS!

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12-03-2006, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You cant charge a customers card until an item actually ships for one thing.

ah thats true

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12-03-2006, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

Are you trying to tell homeboy something?

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12-03-2006, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by thinkx

exactly

thats like paysites with money order payment possibility / which obviously sucks

youll never get credited for those as affiliates

who pays for porn with a money order?
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12-03-2006, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

This is not a valid reason imho. It's common practise not to give affiliates credit in real-time for tangibles products and it's related with the additional difficulties this type of billing/shipping has compared to an online membership. CJ/Linkshare/Amazon etc they handle the most popular tangibles products. None of those will give you credit for sale in real-time and as thinkx said this opens many doors. I think you should contact them and get full info on how this process is handle. I haven't seen their stats, but do you see for example both PENDING sales (leads) and EXECUTED sales?

This is how their system works
- surfer click your link (hits tracked)
- surfer buy order product, and generate a order (orders generated NOT tracked)
- when Fleshlight SHIPS the order, they have to MANUALLY add the sale to your account. If they dont add the sale, you dont get credit and they keep the money themselves.

Nats dont show "order created" or "pending" or anything like it.

They have admitted this again and again over the last months, and STILL people dont send them traffic.
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12-03-2006, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by thinkx

ok help me out why would tang items be harder to put in realtime then nontang

I can think of items being returned, but then again non tang has cb too

Because they charge you when it ships. Hence the odered/shipped ratio. Don't forget they accept other things than CC as well. Checks and MO's sometimes never come. They can't pay you on those if they never come.
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12-03-2006, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You cant charge a customers card until an item actually ships for one thing.

see, homeboy sticky knows whats up....
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12-03-2006, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

Great question...? There should be some kind of extention with the numbers, anyone know if there is?

What kind of extension, its simple you don;'t get credit for phone sales as you just can not track this yourself in any way. Easy extra money in their pockets

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12-03-2006, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

They have admitted this again and again over the last months, and STILL people dont send them traffic.
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12-03-2006, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

This is how their system works
- surfer click your link (hits tracked)
- surfer buy order product, and generate a order (orders generated NOT tracked)
- when Fleshlight SHIPS the order, they have to MANUALLY add the sale to your account. If they dont add the sale, you dont get credit and they keep the money themselves.

Nats dont show "order created" or "pending" or anything like it.

They have admitted this again and again over the last months, and STILL people dont send them traffic.

The fact you would sell a rubber asshole for losers to wank off with and NOT market a program that works makes you a fool, but your poor grammer and word usage shows that already

Congratulations, you are the rubber asshole

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12-03-2006, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

This is how their system works
- surfer click your link (hits tracked)
- surfer buy order product, and generate a order (orders generated NOT tracked)
- when Fleshlight SHIPS the order, they have to MANUALLY add the sale to your account. If they dont add the sale, you dont get credit and they keep the money themselves.

Nats dont show "order created" or "pending" or anything like it.

They have admitted this again and again over the last months, and STILL people dont send them traffic.

No wonder why...

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12-03-2006, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by stickyfingerz

You cant charge a customers card until an item actually ships for one thing.

that is 100% correct, but other scripts will show the affiliate a order of $xxx have been place and is being processed. If its not shipped, the order will show up as "canceled" or something like that.

NATS dont work for shops like this, and NATS/TMM should NEVER have allowed this customer to use the script because it gives them the ability to shave no matter WHAT some may say
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12-03-2006, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

that is 100% correct, but other scripts will show the affiliate a order of $xxx have been place and is being processed. If its not shipped, the order will show up as "canceled" or something like that.

NATS dont work for shops like this, and NATS/TMM should NEVER have allowed this customer to use the script because it gives them the ability to shave no matter WHAT some may say

But but...its impossible to shave with nats.
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12-03-2006, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Franck

But but...its impossible to shave with nats.

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12-03-2006, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Franck

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12-03-2006, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by ebus_dk

This is how their system works
- surfer click your link (hits tracked)
- surfer buy order product, and generate a order (orders generated NOT tracked)
- when Fleshlight SHIPS the order, they have to MANUALLY add the sale to your account. If they dont add the sale, you dont get credit and they keep the money themselves.

Nats dont show "order created" or "pending" or anything like it.

They have admitted this again and again over the last months, and STILL people dont send them traffic.

yeah - yeah, I made a type-o, there was a "dont" to much.

Instead of debating the facts and the problem at hand, you laugh at my spelling. This shows the rest of us the level of professionalism and insight you have ... or lack of.

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12-03-2006, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Jon Clark

who pays for porn with a money order?

Oh Ive seen many many paysites with traffic leaks on the join telling ppl they accept mo as well

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