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  • dready
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    What's a good video format?

    We've been offering our videos now at 720x576 in MPEG1 format.

    10 minutes runs around 200MB.

    Is there a format out there that can give a better quality without too much bigger file sizes? What would you prefer to recieve, or is this a decent enough format?
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    • koreanbbque
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      • Dec 2003
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      #2
      Originally posted by dready
      We've been offering our videos now at 720x576 in MPEG1 format.

      10 minutes runs around 200MB.

      Is there a format out there that can give a better quality without too much bigger file sizes? What would you prefer to recieve, or is this a decent enough format?
      n00b..

      Just playing chris.. i prefer movies in MPEG. that fram size seems a little odd.

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        • NaughtyRob
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          • Nov 2004
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          #3
          Better format that does not increase files size? Nope.
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            • The Sultan Of Smut
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              • Dec 2004
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              #4
              I'm no pro (and probably don't even know what I'm talking about) but shouldn't you be able cut the file size in half by using MPEG2 without losing quality? I've done a little encoding in the past and MPEG1 was not my format of choice.

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                • FTVGirls
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                  • Oct 2002
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                  #5
                  WMV9 at 640x480 2100kb/sec is pretty much TV-quality, which is great for an internet based site. And it would save you about 4x the space you're applying there.

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                    • tony299
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                      • Aug 2002
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by FTVGirls
                      WMV9 at 640x480 2100kb/sec is pretty much TV-quality, which is great for an internet based site. And it would save you about 4x the space you're applying there.
                      true

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                        • Vitasoy
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                          • Oct 2003
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                          #7
                          Was going to mention wmv.


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                            • Denis_SC
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                              #8
                              Some more opinions plz.... ?

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                                • VideoJ
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                                  • Aug 2002
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                                  #9
                                  MPEG 1 uses a DCT-based encoding scheme similar to jpeg but with adaptions for compression between frames. MPEG 2 is similiar to MPEG 1 so you won't get much better compression.

                                  MPEG 4, the latest version of the MPEG standard, uses wavelet compression, a much newer technology that gives much better compression at the same quality. WMV 9 is based on the same technology and gets similar compression and quality. The problem is a lot of people have to download new decoders to watch these movies.

                                  That's the background. I prefer WMV 9 myself for size and quality of the video.
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                                    • yellowmenace
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                                      • Jul 2003
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                                      #10
                                      use to be mpeg, now wmv I feel is comparable in quality without the size.
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                                        • http
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                                          • Oct 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Denis_SC
                                          Some more opinions plz.... ?
                                          1. WMV
                                          2. WMV
                                          3. WMV

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                                            • Centurion
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                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 6033
                                              #12
                                              I do everything now in wmv format since the advent of MS's video 9 codec.

                                              MUCH smaller files than mpegs with just as good if not better resolution.

                                              The only way to go.

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                                                • TheMob
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                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                  #13
                                                  quicktime, for many obvious reasons

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                                                    • beemk
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by http
                                                      1. WMV
                                                      2. WMV
                                                      3. WMV
                                                      you forgot #4, which is wmv
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                                                        • http
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                                                          • Oct 2001
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by beemk
                                                          you forgot #4, which is wmv

                                                          yeah... sorry about that

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                                                            • http
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                                                              • Oct 2001
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by TheMob
                                                              quicktime, for many obvious reasons

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                                                                • Brad Gosse
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                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Quicktime is the best IMO

                                                                  Another GREAT video tip for compressing file sizes is to drop your frame rate to 15 FPS. YOur fies size cuts in half and your vid looks the same because the image quality doesn't change.
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                                                                    • Nicky
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      go with wmv man....

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                                                                        • Greg Jacobson
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                                                                          • Nov 2004
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          For a sample video/tgp what do you guys average per minute (per mb) on a wmv9 file?

                                                                          What are you settings as far as bitrate, size, etc.
                                                                          Last edited by Greg Jacobson; 02-19-2005, 12:09 PM.

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                                                                            • serguei
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by dready
                                                                              We've been offering our videos now at 720x576 in MPEG1 format.

                                                                              10 minutes runs around 200MB.

                                                                              Is there a format out there that can give a better quality without too much bigger file sizes? What would you prefer to recieve, or is this a decent enough format?
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                                                                                • jact
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by serguei
                                                                                  200MB
                                                                                  Use DivX ! Go here www.divx.com
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                                                                                    • Praguer
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      MPEG1 at 720x576? that should look horrible.

                                                                                      There is no one better FORMAT, it all depends on what the use and the delivery medium will be.

                                                                                      If you are planning to do professional work, be ready to do a lot of experimenting with different CODECS and different settinngs of those CODECS to achieve your target size at the maximum quality.

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                                                                                        • mike-x
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Wmv !
                                                                                          Dvix !

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                                                                                            • flashfreak
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                                                                                              • Jun 2002
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I'd say DivX, Xvid and WMV. divx is not as spreaded as windows media video so stick to wmv to avoid problems.
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                                                                                                • EROTEEK
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  ummmm...did any1 mentioned WMV is the best format ? LMAO
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                                                                                                    • groark
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      WMV is fine

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                                                                                                        • Ace of Spades
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by FTVGirls
                                                                                                          WMV9 at 640x480 2100kb/sec is pretty much TV-quality, which is great for an internet based site. And it would save you about 4x the space you're applying there.
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                                                                                                            • Upside_Down
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                                                                                                              • Nov 2006
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by VideoJ
                                                                                                              MPEG 1 uses a DCT-based encoding scheme similar to jpeg but with adaptions for compression between frames. MPEG 2 is similiar to MPEG 1 so you won't get much better compression.

                                                                                                              MPEG 4, the latest version of the MPEG standard, uses wavelet compression, a much newer technology that gives much better compression at the same quality. WMV 9 is based on the same technology and gets similar compression and quality. The problem is a lot of people have to download new decoders to watch these movies.

                                                                                                              That's the background. I prefer WMV 9 myself for size and quality of the video.
                                                                                                              I found this thread after searching for 'compressing video' and this post caught my eye....if what your saying is true with WMV 9 being comparable in quality to the original MPEG file that I compress, then why is the resulting WMV so much granier?.....for example, I've got a 2 min MPEG clip at 77MB and use AVS Video Converter (trial version) to go from MPEG to WMV....but the WMV file that it creates, although heaps smaller in size (~13MB), just doesnt have the same quality as the original....it's actually quite poor in comparison....I tried going to AVI also and same thing - around 11MB in size but very average clarity.....how the hell do all the other sites manage to do this yet keep the quality?

                                                                                                              Maybe I'm doing something wrong???....can someone help me with this please as I have a stack-load of vids that need compressing to put on the web.

                                                                                                              Thanks in advance.

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                                                                                                                • BV
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Nice to see more people smartening up and accepting WMV's superiority over mpg.

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                                                                                                                    • notabook
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                                                                                                                      • Apr 2006
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      WMV for wide-spread acceptance and fairly nice quality-to-size ratio thus for your web audience; H264 Mpeg4P10 if you want the absolute best quality-to-size ratio for personal use or archiving purposes (Note that H264 encoding is slower than a retard trapped in a hedge maze).

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                                                                                                                        • bxbe
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                                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          bump bump

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                                                                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              mpeg1 yuck

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                                                                                                                                • BitAudioVideo
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  .flv is on the rise and besides the fact it is slow as shit to encode its pretty nice.

                                                                                                                                  otherwise wmv
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                                                                                                                                    • AaronM
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                                                                                      quicktime, for many obvious reasons

                                                                                                                                      You own a Mac and don't give a shit about the rest of the world?

                                                                                                                                      "Many obvious reasons"

                                                                                                                                      WTF is that supposed to mean?

                                                                                                                                      Less than 2% of my site members watch the Quicktime formats. It cost me more time and money to encode them than I make from offering them.

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                                                                                                                                        • dready
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                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Wow, this thread came back from the dead. What I was looking for was the most general format I could give my content store customers as a download. Something easy for them to to convert into any format they need, and high quality, but not huge file size. WMV is good quality I agree, but I don't like proprietary formats for something like this.
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                                                                                                                                            • Dagwolf
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I hate Quicktime. Almost as much as I hate opening .pdf files on the web.
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                                                                                                                                                • rounders
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                                                                                                                                                  Well yeah its WMV, but to have other options then MPEG works, but has alot higher disk space usage.
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                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I wish more surfers used divx its a awesome codec

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                                                                                                                                                        • Przemek
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                                                                                                                                                          x264 encoded video in mkv/mp4 files have the best quality & smallest file size. But unfortunatelly, most people don't want to bother themselves installing software which allows to play them...
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                                                                                                                                                              MPEG2 - 720x576 - 6000 Kb/s the besty format! Who cares about file size? Quality that is important stuff


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                                                                                                                                                                • notabook
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Przemek
                                                                                                                                                                  x264 encoded video in mkv/mp4 files have the best quality & smallest file size. But unfortunatelly, most people don't want to bother themselves installing software which allows to play them...


                                                                                                                                                                  I just hate how SLOW encoding it is... ugh.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • jasminexxx
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      wmv

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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BV
                                                                                                                                                                          Nice to see more people smartening up and accepting WMV's superiority over mpg.
                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, WMV does have the filesize advantage, but the quality sucks big time.

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