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  • pornlaw
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2007
    • 1902

    #1

    Free Speech Alert - AZ Photographers & Webmasters

    I just received a call from a Arizona criminal defense attorney who is representing the webmaster/photographer in the Desert Divas case. Apparently the webmaster/photographer for that site has been charged with the same criminal charges as the owner of the escort service.

    For merely taking pictures and maintaining the website he has been charged as though he owned and profited from the site. He was merely an IC.

    This is a serious First Amendment issue and can have real ramifications for the industry that operates in Arizona and for the state of Arizona, if they were to lose this prosecution and subsequent appeal(s).

    From what I was told none of the photographs went beyond mere nudity.

    This is what happens with an over zealous prosecutor trying to become the next State Attorney General.
    Michael

    www.AdultBizLaw.com
  • GetSCORECash
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2008
    • 5527

    #2
    Do you think they have a chance of winning the case in Arizona, the government? Or is this going to be a drain in cash for the webmaster?
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    • czarina
      Webmaster Extraordinaire
      • Jul 2002
      • 10752

      #3
      that's total BS, that guy needs a beatdown (the state attorney, that is)

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      • Kimmykim
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        • Jun 2001
        • 16015

        #4
        Originally posted by GetSCORECash
        Do you think they have a chance of winning the case in Arizona, the government? Or is this going to be a drain in cash for the webmaster?
        Win or lose, the defendants are going to be in a cash drain.

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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5
          Originally posted by pornlaw
          This is a serious First Amendment issue and can have real ramifications for the industry that operates in Arizona
          for which industry? the prostitution industry or online adult?

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          • Nikki_Licks
            Confirmed User
            • May 2005
            • 6323

            #6
            We are in AZ and this really causes a bit of concern. It sure sucks to be him right now.
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            • pornlaw
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1902

              #7
              Originally posted by dyna mo
              for which industry? the prostitution industry or online adult?
              The porn industry. He essential maintained a website of an adult nature and he took photographs of women in various states of undress.

              I can think how an over zealous prosecuter might apply this to a pornographic website, especially if its not legal to shoot hardcore content in that particular state.

              I might be wrong but I think this is also the approach/theory taken by the prosecutor against Ray Guhn in Florida.
              Michael

              www.AdultBizLaw.com

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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #8
                Originally posted by pornlaw
                The porn industry. He essential maintained a website of an adult nature and he took photographs of women in various states of undress.

                I can think how an over zealous prosecuter might apply this to a pornographic website, especially if its not legal to shoot hardcore content in that particular state.

                I might be wrong but I think this is also the approach/theory taken by the prosecutor against Ray Guhn in Florida.
                seems to be a stretch.

                not sure how an agent of an accused major criminal syndicate operating an organized online prostitution business charged with money laundering, pandering, prostitution, etc can be compared to an online adult biz operator, but hey you're the pornlaw guy.

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                • pornlaw
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1902

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  seems to be a stretch.

                  not sure how an agent of an accused major criminal syndicate operating an organized online prostitution business charged with money laundering, pandering, prostitution, etc can be compared to an online adult biz operator, but hey you're the pornlaw guy.
                  Its not really a stretch. Here's some info on the Ray Guhn case in 2006... all those charges you just mentioned ... Ray Guhn was charged with them for operating CumOnHerFace.com in Florida.

                  http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/26/St...en_charg.shtml

                  And here's a quote from an article written by Q. Boyer for YNOT.com on the Ray Guhn case that occurred in 2006.

                  McCowen?s arraignment is scheduled for Friday, September 14th; however, as McCowen has already entered his plea, he will not actually appear in court on Friday, Walters says.

                  The question of whether paying porn performers is tantamount to prostitution is a question that has only been settled in the state of California. In People v. Freeman, the California Supreme Court held that pandering and prostitution laws cannot be employed by the government as a means to suppress the creation of erotic materials that are protected by the First Amendment.

                  The standard laid forth in People v. Freeman has not been adopted by other states, however, leaving the prostitution question very much open throughout the rest of the country.

                  ?Sexual conduct filmed for a movie is simply not prostitution; where sexual activity is engaged in by paid performers for the purposes of being recorded on camera, and intended for a viewing audience, the legal analysis changes dramatically,? says Weston. ?In such instance, the government is precluded from using the prostitution laws, or similar back door censorship theories as a means of avoiding the First Amendment protection otherwise afforded to the creation of sexually oriented content.?
                  Same issue in AZ, shoe horning prostitution into creation of erotic material - there's a good First Amendment challenge to his charges.
                  Michael

                  www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                  • brassmonkey
                    Pay It Forward
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 77396

                    #10
                    thats his business what does that have to do with az webmasters
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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pornlaw
                      Its not really a stretch. Here's some info on the Ray Guhn case in 2006... all those charges you just mentioned ... Ray Guhn was charged with them for operating CumOnHerFace.com in Florida.

                      http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/26/St...en_charg.shtml

                      And here's a quote from an article written by Q. Boyer for YNOT.com on the Ray Guhn case that occurred in 2006.



                      Same issue in AZ, shoe horning prostitution into creation of erotic material - there's a good First Amendment challenge to his charges.
                      i'm quite familiar with the ray guhn case. the article you linked left out some crucial details.
                      here are some-
                      Specifically, in addition to the allegations of distribution of obscene material, the allegations involved a few of the performers claiming they had been provided controlled substances by one or more of the named defendants, that the use of escorts to make these films was legally prostitution and the mere payment of adult to perform sexual acts was a violation of Florida's prostitution law. Most of these same performers have pending RICO charges alleged against them for their involvement in escorting services in Pensacola that will not be resolved until after the resolution of this case.
                      not to mention it was in dade county, i believe. i'm sure you are aware of the risks of producing porn in that region.

                      so i am not sure that case can really establish precedence for a blanket statement re: pron production in arizona.

                      that being said, we all know there's only one place where it's legal to shoot porn. not to mention the risks involved in flying talent to arizona for pron production. but those do not apply in this case.

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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 39861

                        #12
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                        • fatfoo
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 27763

                          #13
                          And none of the photographs went beyond mere nudity. Wow...
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                          • eddieinaz
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 179

                            #14
                            I know a lot do not think highly of me in GFY right now. I will assure you that the state of Arizona will win and convict those accused in this case.

                            I am a victim of the corrupt system in Arizona first hand.
                            They prosecutors and both defense attorneys in Arizona circumvent for prosecution
                            and conviction rate is well above 96.9% in the state of Arizona.

                            So you see here another unjust fact. This photographer is guilty by association.
                            He did no wrong in my eyes.
                            I was convicted for my ex GF using her ex husbands credit card while I was in the store dressing room, when she used the card.
                            That drama a was between my ex GF and her fucking husband, NOT ME!!
                            However, one year later after she was put on probation, Arizona decided to charge me for being with her. Muther Fuckers! ONE YEAR LATER!
                            I honestly had nothing to do with it, muther fuckers! Believe me or not, that is the TRUTH!

                            They are slowly taking our rights away!

                            If you are with or around someone who is committing a crime, you will be charge just the same, even if you tell that person DON'T DO IT!

                            So I know first hand what unconstitutional things Prosecutors will do to convict you!
                            Last edited by eddieinaz; 10-06-2009, 06:49 PM.

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                            • eddieinaz
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 179

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GetSCORECash
                              Do you think they have a chance of winning the case in Arizona, the government? Or is this going to be a drain in cash for the webmaster?
                              The State of Arizona will win 100%

                              Both the prosecution and criminal defense attorneys circumvent for prosecution.

                              Once a prosecutor files against you as a number in the State of Arizona, you will be found guilty (convicted) and sentenced accordingly to ARS 13 Arizona Revised Statutes.

                              Here is why: This is ARIZONA! Not California or Florida. Criminal defense attorneys will not oppose the court and prosecutors in today's trials too much, they will not take a gamble and strikes in your defense as they will lose their BAR.

                              Arizona is now a prison industry state. Human warehousing for $$$$, Greedy Governors, politicians, ect. They get 37k every quarter per inmate they house. Now you do the math!

                              You are GUILTY until proven otherwise! You have no fucking rights in Arizona!

                              Pot is 100% illegal in Arizona, you will get two years in prison for one single joint, while in Colorado and Cali, it's legal!
                              Last edited by eddieinaz; 10-06-2009, 07:45 PM.

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