Hey Programs, your dumb ass affiliate rep things are so 5 years ago. - GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

X

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Aug 2009

Posts: 3163
Share

Post
#1

Hey Programs, your dumb ass affiliate rep things are so 5 years ago.

10-05-2009, 11:03 AM

I'm no longer going to promote any program where I can't have direct discussions with it's owner. I don't want to have to talk to your affiliate rep who failed at being a webmaster for him or herself.

There is something to be said for any program where it's owner will personally give you support, content, etc.
Tags: None
Evil Ryan

Confirmed User

Join Date: Sep 2009

Posts: 360
Share

Post
#2

10-05-2009, 11:05 AM

I agree but at the same time some program owners would rather deal with the 'real' business and let us 'reps' deal with weeding out those affiliates who just want to constantly 'chat' with no real rhyme or reason for contacting the program owner other than having nothing better to do with their time $0.02

For me id rather be active on the boards searching for new business deals and then, when it gets to a point the person i am talking with is wanting to do serious business, pass them over to the program owner... Think of it like screening your phone calls... Except a real person is doing the screening not a machine

Last edited by Evil Ryan; 10-05-2009, 11:06 AM.

Condom Cash - Gay Affiliate Program
Rainbow Content - Gay Content @ $16 Per Set!
Evil Earnings - Adult Affiliate Program - Launching Soon!
Webmaster Advertising - Contact Me About Webmaster Traffic!
ICQ# 580251944
Comment
Sly

Let's do some business!

Join Date: Sep 2004

Posts: 31376
Share

Post
#3

10-05-2009, 11:06 AM

List of dumb ass affiliate reps starting now:

Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available
Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
Click here for more details.
Comment
CS-Jay

Confirmed User

Join Date: Oct 2003

Posts: 1794
Share

Post
#4

10-05-2009, 11:08 AM

I feel ya. I am on both sides of the fence. I send traffic and own two programs. I just hate it when it takes forever to get things I need to promote other people. I usually respect one or two days of production time. But anything else than that is just lame.

If you need anything or want to work together, just let me know. I'm always around.

I do stuff - aIm CS_Jay_D
Comment
EvilFubAr

Confirmed User

Join Date: May 2003

Posts: 1141
Share

Post
#5

10-05-2009, 11:12 AM

Both ARS and HDPays have direct contacts to all upper management/owners available. We do our own support
Comment
shermo
Share

Post
#6

10-05-2009, 11:21 AM

It all depends on the program and what the rep's placement in the company is. In instances of some of the medium to larger companies, "reps" are also the decision makers at the top of the totem pole.
Comment
seeric

..........

Join Date: Aug 2004

Posts: 41917
Share

Post
#7

10-05-2009, 11:27 AM

the guy above me is one hell of a webmaster and one hell of an affiliate rep.
Comment
epitome

So Fucking Lame

Join Date: Jun 2009

Posts: 12156
Share

Post
#8

10-05-2009, 11:28 AM

I've seen programs where the affiliate rep does pretty much nothing and has no say whatsoever ... and there are quite a few programs where the owner respects the affiliate manager(s) so much that they let them make most of the decisions.

In fact, one time I went to an owner thinking that it was over the affiliate managers head and he in turn wanted the affiliate manager to make the decision. Actually, if I recall correctly, I think the affiliate manager told me to ask the owner and the owner told me to let the affiliate manager make the decision.
Comment
Ace of Spades

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jul 2003

Posts: 472
Share

Post
#9

10-05-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by sherm

It all depends on the program and what the rep's placement in the company is. In instances of some of the medium to larger companies, "reps" are also the decision makers at the top of the totem pole.

Some like Bryan at Platinum or Kristin at TopBucks, can give you as good or better support than the owners!

Do people really click sigs?
Comment
fatfoo

ICQ:649699063

Join Date: Mar 2003

Posts: 27763
Share

Post
#10

10-05-2009, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by area51

I don't want to have to talk to your affiliate rep who failed at being a webmaster for him or herself.

Well said. It's sucks when the affiliate manager doesn't understand what the webmaster is talking about, for the reason that the affiliate manager doesn't have enough knowledge in the area.

Send me an email: [email protected]
Comment
LeRoy

Porn Pusher

Join Date: Jul 2007

Posts: 13364
Share

Post
#11

10-05-2009, 11:38 AM

The owner here at DTI Cash. He only speaks Japanese and thats why they hired a guy who speaks English.

ME

JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES
Teams - leroy.rowland2
Telegram - @lroddd
Comment
Rui

web

Join Date: Dec 2001

Posts: 9533
Share

Post
#12

10-05-2009, 11:44 AM

Try to apply that genious logic with everything you do in your life...

What a joke...
Comment
webgurl

Confirmed User

Join Date: Aug 2002

Posts: 7954
Share

Post
#13

10-05-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by LeRoy

The owner here at DTI Cash. He only speaks Japanese and thats why they hired a guy who speaks English.

ME

now there is a reasonable excuse
Comment
Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE
Share

Post
#14

10-05-2009, 11:51 AM

There are a couple reps in this thread I would deal with any day... Some good TRUE reps.

Especially Sherm, that guy is awesome.
Comment
area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Aug 2009

Posts: 3163
Share

Post
#15

10-05-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Rui

Try to apply that genious logic with everything you do in your life...

What a joke...

You're no longer "handing" TeenDolls, so what are you doing now?
Comment
gleem

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jun 2001

Posts: 5593
Share

Post
#16

10-05-2009, 01:29 PM

reps are pretty annoying ehh? As long as they are adult webmasters first it's cool, other wise it's pointless.

Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com
Comment
alias

aliasx

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 19010
Share

Post
#17

10-05-2009, 02:16 PM

That is a pretty broad statement area51, I understand your point but not all programs are small enough for the owner to be involved in micromanagement.

I know some badass affil reps.

https://porncorporation.com
Comment
HunkyLuke

Virgin by request ;)

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 1924
Share

Post
#18

10-05-2009, 02:23 PM

want to chat? contact me, Luke, the OWNER of HunkMoney on luke -a- hunkmoney.com
Comment
Rui

web

Join Date: Dec 2001

Posts: 9533
Share

Post
#19

10-05-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by area51

You're no longer "handing" TeenDolls, so what are you doing now?

offtopic and none of your business actually

If you decide to get Windows 7 do you also expect to get it from Steve Ballmer?
Comment
D Ghost

null

Join Date: May 2006

Posts: 9820
Share

Post
#20

10-05-2009, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Rui

If you decide to get Windows 7 do you also expect to get it from Steve Ballmer?

LMAO
Comment
Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE
Share

Post
#21

10-05-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Rui

offtopic and none of your business actually

If you decide to get Windows 7 do you also expect to get it from Steve Ballmer?

Fuck no, only noobs do that. I got mine from Bill Gates after we had a nice dinner.
Comment
Barefootsies

Choice is an Illusion

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 42635
Share

Post
#22

10-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Rui

If you decide to get Windows 7 do you also expect to get it from Steve Ballmer?

Should You Email Your Members?

Link1 | Link2 | Link3

Enough Said.

"Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"
Comment
VIPimp

Marina WILL have my babies!

Join Date: May 2003

Posts: 9234
Share

Post
#23

10-05-2009, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by area51

I'm no longer going to promote any program where I can't have direct discussions with it's owner. I don't want to have to talk to your affiliate rep who failed at being a webmaster for him or herself.

There is something to be said for any program where it's owner will personally give you support, content, etc.

See sig and hit me up... dont have any rep's so nothing for you to worry about ;)
Comment
alias

aliasx

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 19010
Share

Post
#24

10-05-2009, 06:17 PM

Vip pimp is one of the most diligent program owners on gfy. Always posts for himself, I guess that would be the perfect kind of guy for you to work with 51.

https://porncorporation.com
Comment
After Shock Media

It's coming look busy

Join Date: Mar 2001

Posts: 35299
Share

Post
#25

10-05-2009, 06:40 PM

Some people amaze me with their stupidity around here.
Nothing says that reps have failed, many often still have side stuff going. Of course there are some programs that just pay so damn well, offer benefits, and well give people much more security over being a standard affiliate.

I just think you are generalizing to much and basing all reps off of a few that just do their jobs badly.

Then to think that every affiliate can get to take up untold amounts of contact everyday from the owners of some multi million dollar a year companies are laughable.

[email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]
Comment
dropped9

Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2001

Posts: 26727
Share

Post
#26

10-05-2009, 06:49 PM

There is a big difference between old school affiliate reps and todays. Old school reps were used for their online "presence". Now a days you need to actually be something other then a hot chick with a cute smile.
Comment
VIPimp

Marina WILL have my babies!

Join Date: May 2003

Posts: 9234
Share

Post
#27

10-05-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by alias

Vip pimp is one of the most diligent program owners on gfy. Always posts for himself, I guess that would be the perfect kind of guy for you to work with 51.
Comment
NaughtyRob

Two fresh affiliate progs

Join Date: Nov 2004

Posts: 29602
Share

Post
#28

10-05-2009, 08:21 PM

I am my own rep, always have been. - www.getnaughtycash.com

Originally posted by area51

I'm no longer going to promote any program where I can't have direct discussions with it's owner. I don't want to have to talk to your affiliate rep who failed at being a webmaster for him or herself.

There is something to be said for any program where it's owner will personally give you support, content, etc.

[email protected]
Skype: 17026955414
Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups
Comment
Iron Fist

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 23400
Share

Post
#29

10-05-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by GetNaughty

I am my own rep, always have been. - www.getnaughtycash.com

This is true.

i like waffles
Comment
betabomb

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2005

Posts: 777
Share

Post
#30

10-05-2009, 10:56 PM

something to be said for a bigger orgnization
Comment
alias

aliasx

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 19010
Share

Post
#31

10-05-2009, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by GetNaughty

I am my own rep, always have been. - www.getnaughtycash.com

Happy birthday man!

https://porncorporation.com
Comment
angeleyes

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 3584
Share

Post
#32

10-05-2009, 11:35 PM

I have to agree that some companies have thousands upon thousands of webmasters and on top of running a company can't talk to each webmaster, every single time. (Not because they don't want to, they have only so many hours in the day). That is why VP of sales, etc are hired. I've held all kind of positions. Some ppl have not liked me I'm quite sure, some have written to my bosses about how good I am at being on top of the game, but one person alone can't do everything or the company couldn't grow. The company grows and they can raise payouts. Plus these people also have families and a few hours of sleep a night they need, that is why they hire people to help. That is just my 2 cents. I can't even imagine at my old job, the owner handling all affiliates when they own 7 programs now, each with multiple sites, it just can't be done. That would be one owner handling about 10,000 affiliates. (When they need over 8 that are over loaded). This is not my current employer and it's something good to be said about my previous because they grew from nothing to huge and they did it working with ppl that worked hard for them. That is how these small programs grow, a bunch of quality people chipping in and working overtime and brainstorming, it's a unique dynamic.

Last edited by angeleyes; 10-05-2009, 11:40 PM.

Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.
Comment
alias

aliasx

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 19010
Share

Post
#33

10-05-2009, 11:40 PM

Even some programs have behind the scene guys that are not affiliate reps and they run shit too.

https://porncorporation.com
Comment
angeleyes

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 3584
Share

Post
#34

10-05-2009, 11:48 PM

With this said, even the mid-sized programs need affiliate reps because the program I do work for is growing like a weed and everyone pretty much works seven days a week and none of us a bitch, it's a good group of people. If someone demands the owner, he'll sure as hell try and make time, but he isn't superman.

With that said, Good Night to All and in the end, there are bad reps, good reps and we each have our own opinion so we shouldn't bash all of them. Even me as a "semi rep", more of a Marketing person, i deal with reps every day and some of them are amazingly helpful. There is some saying about the people lower down on the executive ladder being the bricks that hold things together and in SOME cases, I do believe it, I can't see any ONE owner handling all of their affiliates and still expecting time to grow the company.

Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.
Comment
flashfire

ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 13098
Share

Post
#35

10-05-2009, 11:53 PM

well the owner cant be online at all times...just have to get better reps
Comment
SGS

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2002

Posts: 5176
Share

Post
#36

10-06-2009, 12:14 AM

I am a producer, publisher and company owner but I am *not* an affiliate "rep".

See sig...
Comment
Nicky

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Mar 2003

Posts: 30071
Share

Post
#37

10-06-2009, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Some people amaze me with their stupidity around here.
Nothing says that reps have failed, many often still have side stuff going. Of course there are some programs that just pay so damn well, offer benefits, and well give people much more security over being a standard affiliate.

I just think you are generalizing to much and basing all reps off of a few that just do their jobs badly.

Then to think that every affiliate can get to take up untold amounts of contact everyday from the owners of some multi million dollar a year companies are laughable.

We have a winner.

gfynicky @ gmail.com
Comment
Evil Ryan

Confirmed User

Join Date: Sep 2009

Posts: 360
Share

Post
#38

10-06-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by angeleyes

I have to agree that some companies have thousands upon thousands of webmasters and on top of running a company can't talk to each webmaster, every single time. (Not because they don't want to, they have only so many hours in the day). That is why VP of sales, etc are hired. I've held all kind of positions. Some ppl have not liked me I'm quite sure, some have written to my bosses about how good I am at being on top of the game, but one person alone can't do everything or the company couldn't grow. The company grows and they can raise payouts. Plus these people also have families and a few hours of sleep a night they need, that is why they hire people to help. That is just my 2 cents. I can't even imagine at my old job, the owner handling all affiliates when they own 7 programs now, each with multiple sites, it just can't be done. That would be one owner handling about 10,000 affiliates. (When they need over 8 that are over loaded). This is not my current employer and it's something good to be said about my previous because they grew from nothing to huge and they did it working with ppl that worked hard for them. That is how these small programs grow, a bunch of quality people chipping in and working overtime and brainstorming, it's a unique dynamic.

Thats pretty much what is happening here right now, there are two owners and 3 employees working on a range of projects, some new affiliate programs that we have in development, some mainstream ebook affiliate programs, some service related sites and also a mainstream bricks and mortar type business, the company owners simply do not have the time to be dealing with everything 24/7 so they hired the three of us to handle what id call the 'grunt' work, coming up with site concepts, affiliate relations, marketing and promotion of their resource sites and ad sales, etc, etc....

Between the 5 of us, when we all get together its great because we all have a unique perspective on where we want to grown our online businesses for the company owners, ourselves and our affiliates, sometimes we all agree on the direction we should take, sometimes we dont but its these brainstorming sessions that i personally find to be the most valuable in learning new things and it also helps me appreciate the fact that even though im a general rep for several web presences, i know i can grow with our company as it evolves whether that is in the online world or in the bulk commercial real estate world working on multi million dollar foreclosure deals for hedge funds.

Bottom line is, the two company owners have a limited amount of time of their own, by hiring someone to be a frontman for their online businesses it allows them to focus on growing their businesses, not worrying what is actually going on in the industry with them.

Part of my job is to keep them appraised of what is new and developing in the biz, programs that have launched new sites, niches, new boards that have popped up, companies we should be looking to work with, etc... This alone is pretty much a full time job LOL

Condom Cash - Gay Affiliate Program
Rainbow Content - Gay Content @ $16 Per Set!
Evil Earnings - Adult Affiliate Program - Launching Soon!
Webmaster Advertising - Contact Me About Webmaster Traffic!
ICQ# 580251944
Comment
Sarah_Jayne

Now with more Jayne

Join Date: Dec 2002

Posts: 40077
Share

Post
#39

10-06-2009, 01:54 AM

I get your point. However, being good at running a company is not the same thing as being good at customer support. I don't many highly successful company owners want to spend a big chunk of their day explaining, over and over again, the definition of a join hit.

I got into doing affiliate support work because I am ultra paranoid about not having a dependable wage. So, I do this on top of my own affiliate work and I do think that more reps/affiliate support people should come from that background so they can at least speak with some knowledge. However, being a webmaster and doing support are two very different skill sets. All you have to do is read some of the icq logs that people post and see that.
Comment
JimmiDean

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2004

Posts: 3433
Share

Post
#40

10-06-2009, 03:02 AM

Point taken.
That's why all out affiliates have a direct contact to me.
I want to know whats going on and make sure everyone gets what they need to promote us.

My God there's Porn on here!

Still on the Beach !!!
Comment
kmanrox

aka K-Man

Join Date: Oct 2001

Posts: 29295
Share

Post
#41

10-06-2009, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Evil Ryan

I agree but at the same time some program owners would rather deal with the 'real' business and let us 'reps' deal with weeding out those affiliates who just want to constantly 'chat' with no real rhyme or reason for contacting the program owner other than having nothing better to do with their time $0.02

For me id rather be active on the boards searching for new business deals and then, when it gets to a point the person i am talking with is wanting to do serious business, pass them over to the program owner... Think of it like screening your phone calls... Except a real person is doing the screening not a machine

very well put!

Crypto HODLr
Crypto mining
Angel investor
Comment
Rui

web

Join Date: Dec 2001

Posts: 9533
Share

Post
#42

10-06-2009, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by angeleyes

I have to agree that some companies have thousands upon thousands of webmasters and on top of running a company can't talk to each webmaster, every single time. (Not because they don't want to, they have only so many hours in the day). That is why VP of sales, etc are hired. I've held all kind of positions. Some ppl have not liked me I'm quite sure, some have written to my bosses about how good I am at being on top of the game, but one person alone can't do everything or the company couldn't grow. The company grows and they can raise payouts. Plus these people also have families and a few hours of sleep a night they need, that is why they hire people to help. That is just my 2 cents. I can't even imagine at my old job, the owner handling all affiliates when they own 7 programs now, each with multiple sites, it just can't be done. That would be one owner handling about 10,000 affiliates. (When they need over 8 that are over loaded). This is not my current employer and it's something good to be said about my previous because they grew from nothing to huge and they did it working with ppl that worked hard for them. That is how these small programs grow, a bunch of quality people chipping in and working overtime and brainstorming, it's a unique dynamic.

&

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Some people amaze me with their stupidity around here.
Nothing says that reps have failed, many often still have side stuff going. Of course there are some programs that just pay so damn well, offer benefits, and well give people much more security over being a standard affiliate.

I just think you are generalizing to much and basing all reps off of a few that just do their jobs badly.

Then to think that every affiliate can get to take up untold amounts of contact everyday from the owners of some multi million dollar a year companies are laughable.

Right on, I really dont see why is it so hard to understand that the upper management\owners have more important things to do and just cant multiply (no matter how much they want) the hours in the day...

This is a no brainer, and I'm surprised to see people bitching about it...

This may work on bigger company's, but not to the extend some people are talking about here and if you are a big affiliate...

Like I said some people are way way out of touch with reality..
Comment
12clicks

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jan 2001

Posts: 19813
Share

Post
#43

10-06-2009, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by area51

I'm no longer going to promote any program where I can't have direct discussions with it's owner. I don't want to have to talk to your affiliate rep who failed at being a webmaster for him or herself.

There is something to be said for any program where it's owner will personally give you support, content, etc.

if you're a valuable affiliate, you get to talk to ownership. if your a loud mouthed kid on GFY, not so much.

I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
Comment
bbobby86

partners.sexier.com

Join Date: Jan 2007

Posts: 11926
Share

Post
#44

10-06-2009, 04:32 AM

... and there are quite a few programs where the owner respects the affiliate manager(s) so much that they let them make most of the decisions... good one...
Comment
SoloGirlsContent

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Oct 2003

Posts: 5013
Share

Post
#45

10-06-2009, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by area51

I'm no longer going to promote any program where I can't have direct discussions with it's owner. I don't want to have to talk to your affiliate rep who failed at being a webmaster for him or herself.

There is something to be said for any program where it's owner will personally give you support, content, etc.

man you are really are a god damn retard, congrats
Comment
SoloGirlsContent

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Oct 2003

Posts: 5013
Share

Post
#46

10-06-2009, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

if you're a valuable affiliate, you get to talk to ownership. if your a loud mouthed kid on GFY, not so much.
Comment
Fletch XXX

GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!

Join Date: Jan 2002

Posts: 60840
Share

Post
#47

10-06-2009, 05:36 AM

To be honest, I dont even know what people use reps for to be honest.

Kristin helped me with some mobile stuff only because it involved mobile redirect stuff, but other than that...

sign up for program
grab codes
make sign up
get paid

I think reps are mostly for getting affiliates, ive never used them much, never needed them for anything other than PAYMENT stuff.

Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site?

Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me
Comment
CIVMatt

Amateur Pimpin

Join Date: Aug 2004

Posts: 13075
Share

Post
#48

10-06-2009, 05:52 AM

Amazing how many affiliate reps don't know what to do when you ask them for help to best convert your traffic

Make easy money with Webcams
Comment
Farang

one sick puppy

Join Date: Oct 2004

Posts: 11715
Share

Post
#49

10-06-2009, 06:50 AM

Got tranny traffic?

fbm
Comment
Bryan G

Confirmed User

Join Date: Aug 2005

Posts: 8338
Share

Post
#50

10-06-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by Ace of Spades

Some like Bryan at Platinum or Kristin at TopBucks, can give you as good or better support than the owners!

Thanks Ace of Spades!!

I'm here to help any of my affiliates whenever needed!

Bryan
skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591
Comment

Previous 1 2 template Next

Working...