Holy shit look at this new electric car - one cent per mile!!!!

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  • rodney25
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2005
    • 7090
    #51
    Originally posted by en21
    price will go when they start the mass production
    If they really have plans of mass-producing those cars right now.


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      • Matt 26z
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2002
        • 18481
        #52
        The true signal that the electric car is here is when one appears in a NASCAR race. Then I think you'll see mainstream acceptance of the idea.

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          • Chris Corn
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2006
            • 237
            #53
            Saw a documentary...electric cars have 1 moving part in the engine and it costs only $20 to fix it and you can do it yourself. The electric cars in Cali were pulled by the manufacturer because of no break downs and therefore no money for parts. There is a higher order that nobody knows about.
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              • WebairGerard
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2005
                • 8113
                #54
                very cool. looking forward to future models as well

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                  • justsexxx
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 13723
                    #55
                    Originally posted by notabook
                    Uh huh. The electric car is such a fantastic invention that can get you from here to the grocery store AND has enough battery power left over to let you get home! Gotcha.
                    Not everyone lives in the middel of nowhere....450 miles is a long distance. Especially for ppl in Europe...Most ppl drive that in a week...
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                      • hydro
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 4216
                        #56
                        Definately a push in the right direction, right now its just a sports car that goes 250 miles. Maybe in 10 years it can be a 4 door sedan that does 1000 miles per charge.

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                          • Dollarmansteve
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2005
                            • 2849
                            #57
                            Originally posted by Furious_Female
                            The technology is out there for $0.00 per mile... they're just milking every cent out of fossil fuels for as long as they can.
                            1) who's "they"

                            2) do this equation:

                            Cost of vehicle + (lifetime mileage x cost per mile) + rest of ownership costs = Total Cost

                            as long as the total cost of owning the gas powered car is cheaper it would be irrational to buy something else.

                            3) $0.00 per mile? so you're telling me that electricity is 'free' or that giving a hydrogen vehicle is fuel is 'free'? Im sorry, you're mistaken.

                            If there's only one cliche from economics you should take to heart it would be "there's no such thing as a free lunch"
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                              • stickyfingerz
                                Doin fine
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 24984
                                #58
                                Maybe Im missing something here but, why cant they add some sort of a gearing system that runs off the drivetrain or directly off the wheels spinning that powers a few alternators that will help maintain or charge the batteries back up? Gearing that would automatically "switch gears" as the speed of the car slowed to increase or decrease pulley size to maintain the highest possible rpm for the alternators at all speeds. Its not like an alternator takes alot of force to keep it turning. I wouldnt think it would take alot of engineering genius to develop a system to have an alternator running off each wheel. Has it never been thought of, or am I missing some block for why it wouldnt work?

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                                  • Dollarmansteve
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 2849
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                    Maybe Im missing something here but, why cant they add some sort of a gearing system that runs off the drivetrain or directly off the wheels spinning that powers a few alternators that will help maintain or charge the batteries back up? Gearing that would automatically "switch gears" as the speed of the car slowed to increase or decrease pulley size to maintain the highest possible rpm for the alternators at all speeds. Its not like an alternator takes alot of force to keep it turning. I wouldnt think it would take alot of engineering genius to develop a system to have an alternator running off each wheel. Has it never been thought of, or am I missing some block for why it wouldnt work?
                                    The first law of thermodynamics doesnt like the idea.

                                    Electric cars do employ regenerative braking and downhill/coast charging - but more energy is used to accelerate the car than can be recovered during slowing, and unless you only ever travel downhill (in which case you wouldnt even need an engine of any kind...) the batteries will eventually die.

                                    Also, alot of energy is lost in mechanical gear/pulley systems (mostly due to friction) - you can experience this directly by driving in the summertime with your A/C off and then switching it on.. you can feel the loss in engine power dramatically as the compressor pulley kicks in...
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                                      • polish_aristocrat
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 40377
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by justsexxx
                                        Not everyone lives in the middel of nowhere....450 miles is a long distance. Especially for ppl in Europe...Most ppl drive that in a week...
                                        you mean most people don't drive that in a week?
                                        Last edited by polish_aristocrat; 11-28-2006, 08:18 AM.
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                                          • polish_aristocrat
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 40377
                                            #61
                                            "EDIT" - i missed the discussion on the first page.

                                            Indeed I drive maybe 250 miles per MONTH on average ( well, I work at home, so where should I be going all the time? ) but I can't imagine having a car that I couldn't use to go for longer distance on vacation ( especially since I hate flying )
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                                              • PenetratinP
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 2689
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Jace
                                                btw you all

                                                to me, sometimes the initial first offering of something like this isn't about the wow factor so that tons of people will purchase it, it is more about the innovation and proof that positive things like this are on the horizon, and much closer than they used to be

                                                with this tesla car brings in a new wave of invention and innovation that we will see tons more of in the next 5-10 years

                                                also, this is the most advanced and most innovative electric car to date, imagine what we will see in 3-5 years
                                                That's the best post in this thread.

                                                Sure the Tesla has limits, but as battery technology improves so will the driving range and practicality of electric cars.

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                                                  • DjSap
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                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 3869
                                                    #63
                                                    looks nice but a bit too expensive at this point...
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                                                      • stickyfingerz
                                                        Doin fine
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 24984
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                        The first law of thermodynamics doesnt like the idea.

                                                        Electric cars do employ regenerative braking and downhill/coast charging - but more energy is used to accelerate the car than can be recovered during slowing, and unless you only ever travel downhill (in which case you wouldnt even need an engine of any kind...) the batteries will eventually die.

                                                        Also, alot of energy is lost in mechanical gear/pulley systems (mostly due to friction) - you can experience this directly by driving in the summertime with your A/C off and then switching it on.. you can feel the loss in engine power dramatically as the compressor pulley kicks in...

                                                        An AC compressor an an alternator are vastly different in force needed to turn. An alternator off a standard car can be spun easily by hand and probably spin 20 to 30 times on its own after you stop. An AC compressor is under pressure for each turn. It wont even spin half a turn on its own spinning by hand. But I still see your point.

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