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  • 93sc
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 53
    #51
    As far as the intake goes, your not going to find anythign much better than an FR500. However, most people who are running an SC are goign over to a Bullit intake, those flow quite a bit better. If thats a 2 valve motor, there's plenty out there for cams and I can point you in the direction of a couple of really good boards that targeted towards that motor.

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      • JFK
        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
        • Jan 2002
        • 67369
        #52
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          • Zuss
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2004
            • 1187
            #53
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              • Choker
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2001
                • 9024
                #54
                Originally posted by 93sc
                Love the car man, nice job. What have you done to the bottom end? If nothing you should be warned that with that paticular block, no one likes pushing them much past 400rwhp (and thats a general number, I'll ask aorund just to make sure that nothing has changed in the last year or two). Also, you might want to consider getting an ACT gauge if you plan on beating on it in the summer. I see you got the IC there, but 12 pounds of boost can lead to bad things if it gets too warm. Like I said, I love the car, and what you've done to it, I would just hate to see you grenade the bottom end.
                Yah the sc runs pretty hot. Thinking of a methanol injecter or maybe a hood scoop. What do you think? So far the temp is running right along factory specs, no increase at all. The aintercooler does a great job on the air, but yah I am concerned about the sc during the summer.
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                  • Choker
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                    • Apr 2001
                    • 9024
                    #55
                    Originally posted by 93sc
                    As far as the intake goes, your not going to find anythign much better than an FR500. However, most people who are running an SC are goign over to a Bullit intake, those flow quite a bit better. If thats a 2 valve motor, there's plenty out there for cams and I can point you in the direction of a couple of really good boards that targeted towards that motor.
                    It's a 3v, I have talked to a lot of experts and from what I gather everyone who has tried to drop a cam in could not even get the car to run. Comp cams has one they say will work but again, people have told me they could not get it to work properly. Pretty sure I'm at the max on hp for this block so I think I will not make any more changes. However I have a 97 and a 98 we are going to build and sc. the 97 is already built good with 325 rwhp. SC dropped on it we should get 500 RWHP I think. It's very tight
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                      • 93sc
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 53
                        #56
                        Originally posted by Choker
                        Yah the sc runs pretty hot. Thinking of a methanol injecter or maybe a hood scoop. What do you think? So far the temp is running right along factory specs, no increase at all. The aintercooler does a great job on the air, but yah I am concerned about the sc during the summer.
                        I have heard of people having good luck with methanol injection. One group of guys you might want to talk to is Snow Performance. they have been doing some cool stuff with water injection for a roots style blower.

                        Just out of curiosity, did you move your intake air temp sensor to a position where it is after the aftercooler? If you did, you might just be able to pull a signal from that. Engine temp is really that important, but Charge Air Temp is. If you have your IAT sensor after the SC then your tuner can set it up so it starts pulling a lot of timing and dumping fuel if you start blowing really hot air. It would be similar to how the 03-04 Cobra works with a combination of O2's, rear O2's, and the CAT sensors. it would pull timing and dump you way rich when those 3 got out of spec. Rob's a bunch of power, but it save your engine.

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                          • 93sc
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 53
                            #57
                            Originally posted by Choker
                            It's a 3v, I have talked to a lot of experts and from what I gather everyone who has tried to drop a cam in could not even get the car to run. Comp cams has one they say will work but again, people have told me they could not get it to work properly. Pretty sure I'm at the max on hp for this block so I think I will not make any more changes. However I have a 97 and a 98 we are going to build and sc. the 97 is already built good with 325 rwhp. SC dropped on it we should get 500 RWHP I think. It's very tight
                            Yea, I havn't really seen anyone coming out with anything that works very well for the 3V in cams yet. That will also go for your intake too then. When you get to it, I would like to see some dyno charts and here what you have done for mods on the other two. I just picked up an 03 Crown Vic trooper that has the PI (performace improved, not police interceptor) motor, and I've been playing with it a bit. matter of fact I'm back on the rollers tomorow to see if I have my fuel issue fixed.

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                              • 93sc
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 53
                                #58
                                post #56 should read Engine temp isn't really that important

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                                  • Ivana Fukalot
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2006
                                    • 2482
                                    #59
                                    mmm, it looks so luxury

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                                      • ssp
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                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 7990
                                        #60
                                        I hope you put some bigger brakes on your car otherwise you might be in for a nasty surprise...

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                                          • RSS
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                                            • May 2006
                                            • 533
                                            #61
                                            nice toy


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                                              • Ohface
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                                                • May 2006
                                                • 997
                                                #62
                                                That's one kickass ride.Congrats on the purchase man!And drive safely.
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                                                  • KMR Stitch
                                                    I am cool
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 14494
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Choker
                                                    Central Florida Turbo on goldenrod near the 408. They did the dyno and tuning for me. They make the best turbos around. They made a huge turbo for a gt mustang, ending up getting 1500hp out of it. The turbo is so fucking big it needs a shot of nitros just to get it turning. LOL.
                                                    Thats pretty crazy... Thats not Titan motor sports is it? I heard they were decent... I am afraid how much it would cost to make my ride Nos ready (bullet proof) Tranny/Engine/Drivetrain ect

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                                                      • Furious_Female
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 8187
                                                        #64
                                                        Wow That is gorgeous!!!
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                                                          • 93sc
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 53
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by KMR Stitch
                                                            Thats pretty crazy... Thats not Titan motor sports is it? I heard they were decent... I am afraid how much it would cost to make my ride Nos ready (bullet proof) Tranny/Engine/Drivetrain ect
                                                            Depends on how big of a shot you want to run. For teh most part you don't have to worry too much about the rear end untill you get past 400rwhp. That will vary slightly with how much your starting with, both power wise and equipment. The tranny can usually be taken care of with a tune and a shift kit. The engine is where it gets interesting. Your best bet is to find a form or club for your vehicle. There is a ton on information there becuase for the most part, if you can think of it, somone has already done it and broke it.

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                                                              • Mr Pheer
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 22082
                                                                #66
                                                                why did you go with a centrifugal blower instead of a roots type?

                                                                basicly what you have is a belt driven turbo and it has to spin up to make good boost. With a roots type you have all the power right off the start.

                                                                Roush make a roots type supercharger that bolts right on your engine. Ford uses it on the GT500 and also sells it for the F150

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                                                                  • 93sc
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 53
                                                                    #67
                                                                    The biggest problem with roots type SC's is that they turn into heat pumps due to thier design. Now an autorotor or a twin screw is really the shit. You get almost all the power on the bottom end, without the heat penelty at the high end. Plus you can get away with running more boost with a centi than a roots type before you blow shit up, just due to the nature of where the power is in the curve.

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                                                                      • 93sc
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 53
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Choker, got a couple of good coments for you regarding that 3V. The first is from the shop I do business with, and they really know their shit. The 2nd is from a local guy who has some experiance blowing shit up.

                                                                        We made 500rwhp on a stock 3v bottom end, Im sure its a time bomb, but its held up all summer, and a few trips to the track, till he spun it around.

                                                                        But the 3v bottom ends, are the same as an older 2v. However because they have a better head and intake design they can make more HP at a lower RPM. 430rwhp should be just fine with a good tune.

                                                                        Rember its RPM and detonation that kills these motors, not power.

                                                                        It will probably take less than 12psi to hit the 430 mark anyway, there's several 550+rwhp turbo 3v's that are living, not that it's a good idea but it can be done. I've heard of one that ran all last season with 700+rwhp without incident.....just more proof it's not hp that's killing the powdered iron rods, they just have no room for error.
                                                                        Last edited by 93sc; 11-27-2006, 04:25 PM.

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                                                                          • Adam_M
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                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                            • 3800
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Congrats on a sweet ride.

                                                                            Just picked up a new car last week myself, Feels GOOOOD

                                                                            It is a bit more of a family car then this baby but still has around 400HP from a Turbo, Intercooled 6 cylinder so it's not all bad.
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                                                                              • 93sc
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 53
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Adam_WildCash
                                                                                Congrats on a sweet ride.

                                                                                Just picked up a new car last week myself, Feels GOOOOD

                                                                                It is a bit more of a family car then this baby but still has around 400HP from a Turbo, Intercooled 6 cylinder so it's not all bad.
                                                                                You guys get all the fun cars.

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                                                                                  • CaptainHowdy
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                                    • 94111
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by 93sc
                                                                                    You guys get all the fun cars.
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                                                                                      • Choker
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 9024
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by 93sc
                                                                                        Choker, got a couple of good coments for you regarding that 3V. The first is from the shop I do business with, and they really know their shit. The 2nd is from a local guy who has some experiance blowing shit up.
                                                                                        Great info man, my mechanic was saying the same thing about detonation. What I am scared of with the methanol injector is that many tell me it will dry out and crack gaskets over time. Any thoughts on this?
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                                                                                          • SleazyDream
                                                                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 41470
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            what's the price tag on a toy like that?
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                                                                                              • Choker
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 9024
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                                why did you go with a centrifugal blower instead of a roots type?

                                                                                                basicly what you have is a belt driven turbo and it has to spin up to make good boost. With a roots type you have all the power right off the start.

                                                                                                Roush make a roots type supercharger that bolts right on your engine. Ford uses it on the GT500 and also sells it for the F150
                                                                                                I spent quite a bit of time comparing different blowers, asking experts. Vortech went all out on their 06 package for the stang. it says it will add 160hp with the smaller pully. We are at/very close to 460 now with the bigger one and flowmaster headers, so I would say their calculation of 160hp gain is dead accurate. I don't think I can get the power out of a roots type like I can the Vortech. With big pulley we got 383 rwhp and 428lbs tq. Plus cost was a factor, by far the Vortech was the cheapest. $5000 included EVERYTHING, even the computer, fuel pump,injecters, Literally everything. The drive train on the stang is pretty good, only a 15% loss in HP. We left all the factory goodys in including the traction control so it still rides smooth as hell. I was gonna lower it , etc, but I don't think I will. I like the luxery ride too much.
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                                                                                                  • Choker
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                    • 9024
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                    what's the price tag on a toy like that?
                                                                                                    Pretty cheap actually, I think I gave like 31k for the car, 8k for the blower,labor. So I have like 39k in it.
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                                                                                                        • Jan 2006
                                                                                                        • 11542
                                                                                                        #76
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                                                                                                          • SleazyDream
                                                                                                            I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                            • 41470
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                                            Pretty cheap actually, I think I gave like 31k for the car, 8k for the blower,labor. So I have like 39k in it.
                                                                                                            that's WICKED cheap for a 500+ hp car.

                                                                                                            congrats!
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                                                                                                              • thebossxxx
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                                                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                                                • 3209
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Very Nice Conrats and Good luck with the new toy! Im sure you earned it!


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                                                                                                                  • lyn_AWP
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                                                                                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                    • 63
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    very nice car

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                                                                                                                      • pornguy
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                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                        • 62910
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Should have just put a blower on it.
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                                                                                                                          • 93sc
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                                                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                            • 53
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                                                            Great info man, my mechanic was saying the same thing about detonation. What I am scared of with the methanol injector is that many tell me it will dry out and crack gaskets over time. Any thoughts on this?
                                                                                                                            you got icq

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                                                                                                                              • sniperwolf
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                                                                                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                • 17743
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                pretty hot looking car.. nicee.. congrats with the new toy!
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                                                                                                                                  • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                    • 41470
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                      • BOSS1
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                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                        • 4331
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        very fast fora soap box bro !! good job

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                                                                                                                                          • Spunky
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                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 133978
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Sweet looking ride..don't kill yourself in it

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                                                                                                                                              • Drake
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                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 12508
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                That's one smokin' hot ride

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                                                                                                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 57021
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    congrats very nice be careful

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                                                                                                                                                        • 8452
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        That was awesome.. I'm wanting it

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                                                                                                                                                          • Vitasoy
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                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 58202
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Sweet looking ride man


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                                                                                                                                                              • Choker
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                                                                                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 9024
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                Hahaha I had a feeling that pic was coming
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                                                                                                                                                                  • fibble
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                                                                                                                                                                    • 771
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                                                                                                                                                                    wow hot car..!

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                                                                                                                                                                      • s9ann0
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 4873
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        nice one!

                                                                                                                                                                        be carefull though this is my vortech supercharger picture from today:



                                                                                                                                                                        by some fluke they don't think any of the shit got in the engine so the car should be back on the road soon, not having much luck with it though

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                                                                                                                                                                          • georgeyw
                                                                                                                                                                            58008 53773
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                            • 9865
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                                                                                                            Biggest problem with the 06 is that it is a new engine, and very few parts are available. No intakes, not even a oversized cam that works yet. The experts tell me this block can handle no more than 700 with forged pistons, which it does not have. I think I am at the max hp without making serious mods to the engine.
                                                                                                                                                                            Wouldn't be too hard to get a fitter and turner to make you a nice intake. Scoup air directly from infront of the radiator

                                                                                                                                                                            Have about 300rwhp in my daily driver(about the same for my toy but it weighs half as much) and found that fitting an over the radiator intake made the world of difference for intake roar, exhaust note and most importantly power

                                                                                                                                                                            Possible for you to take a vid giving the engine a few revs?
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                                                                                                                                                                              • georgeyw
                                                                                                                                                                                58008 53773
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                • 9865
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by spanno
                                                                                                                                                                                nice one!

                                                                                                                                                                                be carefull though this is my vortech supercharger picture from today:



                                                                                                                                                                                by some fluke they don't think any of the shit got in the engine so the car should be back on the road soon, not having much luck with it though
                                                                                                                                                                                what happened there? intake pipe came off and touched the turbine??
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • sharp
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 7006
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    3.90 gears? I thought it was either 3.73 or 4.10's?

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • s9ann0
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 4873
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                                                                                                        what happened there? intake pipe came off and touched the turbine??
                                                                                                                                                                                        id unno the tuner sent me these it looks like you are right though:

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • georgeyw
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by spanno
                                                                                                                                                                                            id unno the tuner sent me these it looks like you are right though:

                                                                                                                                                                                            http://64.237.48.163/pics/S2000-ChargerFailure010.jpg



                                                                                                                                                                                            Hope that doesn't cost you too much to fix! Are they able to replace the turbine or is it a new s/c?

                                                                                                                                                                                            Also is that on an s2000??
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • spideriux
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                                congrats, nice car I'm jealous ;)
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                                                    OMG !!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        vroom vroom

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