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sys admin want some $$ to teach me server setup?

11-24-2006, 12:58 AM

im bored out of my skull and want to learn something i dont want to pay someone to setup a server for me i want to learn how to do it. i have a server centOS installed no control panel - i want to set the bastard up and learn something in the process - i guess i need to install all kinds of shit and ultimately i want to run webmin or cpanel but i want to start with ssh command prompt and learn something to wake up my brain.

i got a server, putty, and money for the right person (no morons please - i want a secure server).

please assume i know absolutely nothing about servers

plz reply here your cost / hour to chat with me talk me through the setup.

thanks!

ps i can pay epp i think but def i can paypal.

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11-24-2006, 01:03 AM

I bet your host will help for free, if it's unmanaged then use there forum to ask questions.

I can answer any questions in this thread for free

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11-24-2006, 01:03 AM

Direct Admin is easy to install and is so easy to run things on. . . oh, and it really works well with CentOS.

If you want to go that route, you should still have my ICQ.
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11-24-2006, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by baddog

Direct Admin is easy to install and is so easy to run things on. . . oh, and it really works well with CentOS.

If you want to go that route, you should still have my ICQ.

thanks bd, the problem i do such boring work i want to go into putty (or whatever ssh client is recomended) and do something interesting instead of just installing a GUI ... id like to do it the hard way if that makes any sense.

im not going to be doing any reselling ill use the server myself so i dont need to setup virtual accounts for clients or anything like that - ill probably put some blogs on it or other nonsense - seems to me cpanel, directadmin is for working with hosting biz. i just want this server for myself. i want to set up i guess apache, php, hell i couldnt find perl on the damn thing i guess i need to install that but dont know how

i want to pay someone to chat me through a full setup i think its bare bones CentOS right now. i really dont want to install a control panel then install everything via GUI. my brain needs stimulation.

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11-24-2006, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

thanks bd, the problem i do such boring work i want to go into putty (or whatever ssh client is recomended) and do something interesting instead of just installing a GUI ... id like to do it the hard way if that makes any sense.

im not going to be doing any reselling ill use the server myself so i dont need to setup virtual accounts for clients or anything like that - ill probably put some blogs on it or other nonsense - seems to me cpanel, directadmin is for working with hosting biz. i just want this server for myself. i want to set up i guess apache, php, hell i couldnt find perl on the damn thing i guess i need to install that but dont know how

i want to pay someone to chat me through a full setup i think its bare bones CentOS right now. i really dont want to install a control panel then install everything via GUI. my brain needs stimulation.

99.9% of our clients with dedicated servers use DA, and <1% are reselling.

It just makes it very easy to add domains, db's etc . . . but have fun
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11-24-2006, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by chaze

I bet your host will help for free, if it's unmanaged then use there forum to ask questions.

I can answer any questions in this thread for free

Good luck.

yea they will install directadmin free but i dont want that i want to learn something i want to do it the old fashioned way, learn some commands, that kind of shit.

if you feel like answering questions for free - my first would be is putty a good ssh client or would you use something different. and then, what the hell is the first step? start installing shit i guess. but i have no idea how to do it, or how to do it safely for that matter - so thats why i offer to pay someone because im absolutely retarded in this dept.

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11-24-2006, 01:19 AM

sorry, but sysadmins don't like noobs

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11-24-2006, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by baddog

99.9% of our clients with dedicated servers use DA, and <1% are reselling.

It just makes it very easy to add domains, db's etc . . . but have fun

that actually answers a question of mine, thanks ... i was curious if it was used mainly for reselling or not. now i know ;)

ill eventually use a gui of course later, but i want to know how to do it the geek way. im afraid im becoming retarded my work is so non-tech. im getting behind the curve. i dont even know what the fuck is a rss.

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11-24-2006, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by darksoul

sorry, but sysadmins don't like noobs

not the way to do biz shit for brains.

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11-24-2006, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

not the way to do biz shit for brains.

biz ?
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the only answer you'll get from a real sysadmin is RTFM
Sysadmins are not techears and don't like holding your hand.

What you're looking for is someone that read Linux for Dummies and can
replicate it for you.

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11-24-2006, 01:51 AM

im not here for a pissing match with you.

sys admins if your interested name your price per hour - thanks.

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11-24-2006, 02:29 AM

Someone already answered you correctly. Decide what you wanna do with your server, then go to your hosts board and find out how to do it. If your host doesn't have a board you may want to try another host like rackshack's board.
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11-24-2006, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by Wilbo

Someone already answered you correctly. Decide what you wanna do with your server, then go to your hosts board and find out how to do it. If your host doesn't have a board you may want to try another host like rackshack's board.

its not like there aren't billions of howtos on every *nix subject

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11-24-2006, 02:43 AM

Before you pay someone who claims they "are top notch" to completely fuck up your server, check out:
http://wiki.centos.org/
http://www.centos.org/docs/
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/yum/

Why pay to have your server fucked up when you can do it yourself for free. Seriously, it's not rocket science. You just need to be able to read the docs.

Google is the best teacher you could ever want and I doubt that any sysadmin on the planet would dispute that claim.
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11-24-2006, 03:00 AM

I could teach you for 20$ per hour.Best thing for begin maybe will be webmin,beacuse it's free.
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11-24-2006, 08:58 AM

If you're gonna learn from scratch, then scrap the centOS and install FreeBSD. And if you're not planning on hosting other people's sites, then forget the control panels... you're not learning anything if you use CPs.

Drop me a line on icq 283914791 if you wish.

But seriously, before spending a tonne per month on a dedi, install Linux on your home PC (unless you have a mac), and learn from that - it's all the same stuff.

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11-24-2006, 09:42 AM

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11-24-2006, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

yea they will install directadmin free but i dont want that i want to learn something i want to do it the old fashioned way, learn some commands, that kind of shit.

if you feel like answering questions for free - my first would be is putty a good ssh client or would you use something different. and then, what the hell is the first step? start installing shit i guess. but i have no idea how to do it, or how to do it safely for that matter - so thats why i offer to pay someone because im absolutely retarded in this dept.

O.K. first thing is to get two ssh tools:

putty is mandatory, I also use winscp a gui ssh tool.

Before you start decide on the control panel, I highly recommend cpanel since it updates most security holes nightly.

But it basically takes over the server so you can't change too much.

next I would recomend webmin

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11-24-2006, 09:57 AM

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11-24-2006, 02:36 PM

thanks for bumps and links and everything!

supert ... thanks ive googled a lot and didnt find those on my own. those are the best so far!

klen - thanks for your offer but honestly im expecting to pay more than 20 per hour. also english is not your first language. no offense. i also dont want to start with webmin - if i understand correctly that would automate a lot of the stuff i want to do via command prompt (im trying to stimulate my dying brain here)

borked - ill hit you on icq - i have crazy hours but if i catch you ill catch you - if we work something out we work something out ;) ... i intend to get a shitbox and books and do *nix installs - but i can afford this server, i can afford to completely fuck up the OS, and pay the host to reinstall it, and i dont need it online - so im ready to have some fun ... why freebsd and not centOS?

forget the control panels... you're not learning anything if you use CPs

EXACTLY!!!!

chaze - thx for your input ... ill check out winscp, and are you saying you recommend webmin over directadmin? this cp crap will come later, when i learn all this stuff and get lazy. but first i want to understand it.

thx everyone

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11-24-2006, 02:38 PM

I would never recommend freebsd
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11-24-2006, 03:12 PM

I would just buy unix for dummies or a similar book, go through it yourself, and then maybe hire someone to walk you through some parts that you may not understand.... like darksoul said, no serious sys admin will spend his time babysitting a newb.... if you are completely clueless it would probably take a few hours just to get logging in and a few basic unix commands down...

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11-24-2006, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by woj

I would just buy unix for dummies or a similar book, go through it yourself, and then maybe hire someone to walk you through some parts that you may not understand.... like darksoul said, no serious sys admin will spend his time babysitting a newb.... if you are completely clueless it would probably take a few hours just to get logging in and a few basic unix commands down...

i (sincerely) appreciate your comments - i guess i need to learn that sysadmins have some elite status or something??? why? because they went to school and read some books? i did too ... just different subjects. i's be knowin how too reeed.

if im willing to pay someone more than they make per hour at their normal job - their "im a sys admin" attitude would be - imho - ridiculous. but, im ready to understand if thats the way it is ...

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11-24-2006, 05:00 PM

http://www.packetstormsecurity.org/

wtf is CENTOS ? get freebsd
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11-24-2006, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

i (sincerely) appreciate your comments - i guess i need to learn that sysadmins have some elite status or something??? why? because they went to school and read some books? i did too ... just different subjects. i's be knowin how too reeed.

if im willing to pay someone more than they make per hour at their normal job - their "im a sys admin" attitude would be - imho - ridiculous. but, im ready to understand if thats the way it is ...

I wouldn't say they have elite status, but any good freelancing sys admin that doesn't live in a 3rd world country bills high double digits per hour for his work. For teaching you are probably looking at $100+/hr. It just doesn't seem like a wise investment to piss away few hundred for someone to teach you how to login and run a few basic commands. If however you already know the basics, then spending few hundred to learn tricks on how to secure your server, improve performance, etc, then it's not too bad of a deal.

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11-24-2006, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by baddog

I would never recommend freebsd

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11-24-2006, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

that actually answers a question of mine, thanks ... i was curious if it was used mainly for reselling or not. now i know ;)

ill eventually use a gui of course later, but i want to know how to do it the geek way. im afraid im becoming retarded my work is so non-tech. im getting behind the curve. i dont even know what the fuck is a rss.

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11-24-2006, 05:21 PM

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11-24-2006, 06:04 PM

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11-24-2006, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by borked

But seriously, before spending a tonne per month on a dedi, install Linux on your home PC (unless you have a mac), and learn from that - it's all the same stuff.

how? im on mac and want to learn server stuff

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11-24-2006, 06:19 PM

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I would never recommend freebsd

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11-24-2006, 06:31 PM

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11-24-2006, 07:14 PM

O.k. so have you started yet?

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11-25-2006, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by woj

I wouldn't say they have elite status, but any good freelancing sys admin that doesn't live in a 3rd world country bills high double digits per hour for his work. For teaching you are probably looking at $100+/hr. It just doesn't seem like a wise investment to piss away few hundred for someone to teach you how to login and run a few basic commands. If however you already know the basics, then spending few hundred to learn tricks on how to secure your server, improve performance, etc, then it's not too bad of a deal.

i never said 100/hr was too much - was expecting to pay something like this - i turned down an offer for 20/hr., i dont want my lawn mowed.

i never claimed that i make wise investments either ... just looking to have some fun.

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11-25-2006, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by chaze

O.k. so have you started yet?

only with starting to read the documents ummm Superterrorizer posted ...

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11-25-2006, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by jMEGA

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kick ass link ty!

this stuff is fun .. im gonna learn all this crap and join the sysadmin club - is there an omerta?

seriously though, thanks for great link.

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11-25-2006, 02:50 AM

www.linuxhelp.org

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11-25-2006, 02:55 AM

Ok I´m bored and have a few hours.....hit me up if you still want somebody to
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11-25-2006, 02:56 AM

nice thread

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11-25-2006, 03:12 AM

I´ll give a discount on group classes

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11-25-2006, 03:14 AM

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I´ll give a discount on group classes

i hate new trillian so im reinstalling icq now ... hit ya in a minute ...

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11-25-2006, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by ServerGenius

Ok I´m bored and have a few hours.....hit me up if you still want somebody to
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i spent a few hours workign this morning with SG and he is a cool mofo ... highly recommended

thanks a lot SG

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11-25-2006, 09:57 AM

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11-25-2006, 11:57 PM

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i spent a few hours workign this morning with SG and he is a cool mofo ... highly recommended

thanks a lot SG

Thanks Mikey it´s a pleasure doing biz with you

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11-26-2006, 01:44 AM

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Thanks Mikey it´s a pleasure doing biz with you

ill be ready for more if you have time 2day ... doing some monkeybusiness now but ill turn on icq when im done.

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