USDBET.COM are fucking scammers, don't do business with them.

o got scammed by them too....

hmm this is the 2nd of these threads ive seen...

normally the masses dont lie

I just saw that banner that they bought here too - How much did that cost?? buahahahaha

Yea this punk and his whole crew are a big organized scam group that have been at it for years. They run the same scams but morph into new alias's with new affiliate gig's, processing gig's, server company gig's and more. Ive been watching these guys for quite a while and im still onto them and all their past and present alias's. They owe probably over $100k with ease and they are very structured with each of their crew responsible for something in the scam op's.

Processing Scam - They are notorious for running processing scams and then running off with the cash using the same old excuse that their bank/connection they processed through took the money. They worked (possibly still work) closely with Daniel Mankani (earthdepot) who ripped a bunch of others off as well. Supposedly he ripped aris and others off but everyone believes it was all part of the act.

Usdbet Casino - Supposedly US Treasury Dept didnt like the fact the good ol "USD" was being associated with this casino program and swooped in to shut it down. I dont know anymore about that so i cant comment. 2-3 people i know are owed in this scam

BP Servers - Theyve been using multiple alias since specialham days to rip people off on server deals. Latest scam alias they use is "Ray" aka "ray shakuri" skype "ray shakuri"

Seung
Alias's: Seung, Ariswiss, Hitman, SilentAssassin (last is not 100% confirmed but from sleuthing and comparing things along with a little social engineering some one did there is a very good chance its him as well)
Accounts-
AIM: ehitman777
ICQ:
MSN: [email protected]
SKYPE: ariswiss (shows as B2C B2B)

Bptime
(some say good chance its aris as well but thats not confirmed)
Last I checked bptime claimed ownership of usdbet and said he wasnt working with aris anymore but.. i believe thats just another front since aris's name is tainted in a bad way now.. sort of how you notice Seung not using his hitman alias anymore now
Alias's: bptime, ray shakuri (last is a good possibility but its not sure if its him or aris)
Accounts-
SKYPE: bptime011

Banking Info: I wont post this info, if you want that im sure you can find it one way or another.

Telephone Numbers: I wont post this info, if you want that im sure you can find it one way or another.

Corporation Docs: I wont post this info, if you want that im sure you can find it one way or another.

Photos of Seung: tempting but not posting

There are a bundle of other new programs and names that i wont mention because i dont know for sure if its them but.. i will say...

This group has possible ties with the BMM "Black Market Money" scam group or infact was the same group all along.

Gdogz affiliate program - rumors this was the work of seung as well

Kissassdollars - rumors this was the work of seung as well


Either these kids have the worst luck with their business getting fucked all the time (i hardly doubt that is the case) or they infact are a skilled scam group. Im leaning toward (highly skilled scam group)

Amounts owed to people?

$60k
$10k
$3k
$600
$2k
$? = and im sure there are mannyyyy others out there that just havent came forward in fear of getting ridiculed or not wanting the exposure to their business..

Im only posting this shit to help everyone be aware of these punks to help innocent webmasters from getting taken advantage of. If you dont like it fuck you, kiss my ass, i dont care what you think. I hate scammers with a passion.

Yea no shit. Its funny they can afford to buy the pricey ass banner slot here yet cant pay back the people whove been owed money for quite some time now. The way these kids work is... If you dont say anything about them owing you money they think they are in the good and wont pay you but as soon as you make a ruckus in public or word gets around *sometimes* theyll pay you purposely in attempts to put that "front" on leading the illusion as if they are "honest cool guys who just happened to make some mistakes so they corrected them". Which this shit then just leads people to believe "hey awwww these kids just have it rough... i feel bad for them... it looks like they take care of their problems so its safe to promote for them probably.." What happens next? bam.. YO ASS GOT JACKED.. But usually this "front" i described doesnt even happen unless its some big elaborately planned lick (scam) that they plan on building $ up with before they dash with the motherload. Most the time when confronted the scammers like this just run off and emerge with a new name and new but yet similar game plan.

Anymore its like a duel with these scammers.. You gotta scam them before they scam you.. and this scam group discussed here has already had it done a few times to them! ahahahahaa

These fuckers have fucked me for over 70k also. You want to locate these guys let me know. I have a lot of info on them.

Bio

One program mentioned in this thread owes me 500 dollars

They dissapeared on me.

well you cant find them or any other BS scammers on ixgames.com

So that's mean 150$ which they own me i will never see?Toobad.Well nothing strange beacuse they have stupid concept of casino,i would even say retarded.
I was know they will not succed beacuse they sconcept was simply toostupid.

scamming bastards

i have full info also . They owe me a lot of money also.

Dont deal with usdbet.com or aps-billing.com or billing-aps.com (aps-support)
http://www.usdbet.com http://www.apsbill.com/


My two cents,

Gfy Drama...

please hit me up icq in sig.... i am also owed a lot of money...

they kept trying to get my exit spot

Hahahaha Nice Kharma ;-)

same people were trying to get my p2p system....kept wanting a demo version etc.

fucking crooks......mods need to ban "chaldoray" if this is all infact true

Hit me up i'd like to talk to you about this ;-)

I have Seung Cell phone as well maybe we can trade information.

Chaldoray no longer work with them,atleast that what he say.He now doing video encoding and some fancy mainstream things.

duhhhhhhhhhhhh

Damn, good info in this thread.

I got a strange ICQ this monrning from someone named Nick Op Ray, could that be the same 'Ray'?

good info there

sig spot...

wowww crazy!!

I just got this from someone.

http://www.infinite-infotech.com/

It's usdbet corporate website

chaldoray hit me up a couple times to buy casino/sportsbook leads off me, but i wasnt interested

Ray in San Diego, something to do with Aleks a Russian in Canada?

thanks for the info