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  • DonovanTrent
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2006
    • 968

    #106
    Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
    Where you are wrong is here "prurient interest." If rape turns you on, and you got wind of this movie, you would watch it for that scene, therefore, catering to the prurient interest of that individual. Therefore, by the letter of a much ambiguous law, "last house on the left is obscene."
    Duke
    Incorrect, it's general intent. Somebody with a foot fetish might get turned on by "Old Woman Who Lived In A Shoe" but that doesn't make it obscene. "Old Woman Who Got Fucked By A Shoe" maybe...
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    • Major (Tom)
      So Fucking Banned
      • Nov 2003
      • 32492

      #107
      Originally posted by DonovanTrent
      Incorrect, it's general intent. Somebody with a foot fetish might get turned on by "Old Woman Who Lived In A Shoe" but that doesn't make it obscene. "Old Woman Who Got Fucked By A Shoe" maybe...
      You are confusing an object with an action.
      Duke

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      • Sausage
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 3012

        #108
        Can anyone actually say they are surprised? I remember seeing sleepassault or some such a couple of years back before they got called out and changed the text on the tour to something a little less blatant. I mean there was no question they were going for the rape niche, still got the screenshot somewhere.

        Are you seriously surprised these sites are targeted and shut down? I mean comeon .. it doesn't take 2 brain cells to figure out this shit is just bad news. Same with dressing a girl up to look 13, fake necro, simulated drunk rape, suggested beast and other crap people pull to try and shock a sale out. It may not be illegal, but if you think you aren't painting one hell of a red X on your back you have your head in the ground.

        It comes down to plain basic common sense.
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        • AtlantisCash
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2005
          • 3179

          #109
          i can't believe some of the idiots are really Adult site owners here, some of You guys are total faliours, some says adult and mainstream movies are different,
          some says You can't defense fantasies as an argument bla bla bla.

          how can You fucktards can compare dressing up a 21 girl like a child and a sleeping fantasy? what the fuck is wrong with Your minds?

          Sleeping fantasy is just an innocent fantasy between partners and nothing is wrong with that.

          You nutjob's deal must be defensing Your own side, not making up useless philosophies out of Your dumb asses.

          learn how to defend Your own rights and job or please leave the fuck outa this business and save us reading from Your idiotic statements
          Last edited by AtlantisCash; 09-13-2009, 10:04 PM.
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          • AtlantisCash
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2005
            • 3179

            #110
            i can't believe some of the idiots are really Adult site owners here, some of You guys are total failures, some says adult and mainstream movies are different,
            some says You can't defense fantasies as an argument bla bla bla.

            how can You fucktards can compare dressing up a 21 girl like a child and a sleeping fantasy? what the fuck is wrong with Your minds?

            Sleeping fantasy is just an innocent fantasy between partners and nothing is wrong with that.

            You nutjob's deal must be defensing Your own side, not making up useless philosophies out of Your dumb asses.

            learn how to defend Your own rights and job or please leave the fuck outa this business and save us reading from Your idiotic statements
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            • Phallus Fondue
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2009
              • 418

              #111
              Originally posted by CrkMStanz
              ya, way way way longer than needed - I was fast forwarding thru that scene and it was still way too long.

              anyways, all the 'sleep' sites are plastered all over the sharing and torrent sites.

              think theres some ammo to use against them there?

              just saying...

              .
              then i will say now then NEVER add the following titles to your netflix, they are all the same movie.
              "i spit on your grave"
              "day of the woman"
              "i hate your guts"
              "the rape and revenge of jennifer hill"

              i never watched the sequel calles savage vengeance, with same actress.

              if you were going to fast foward past the brutal rape, your movie would be a few minutes of country and some shopping, fast foward x5 speed, shes alive wow, oh shit fast foward x5 speed, revenge which is brutal too, roll credits.
              if you watched revenge part, opening, and the wow she lived, your total film is maybe 20 minutes.

              i only bring this up because cintel films got rights to make the remake and they said a 2009 worldwide release. if you had problems with last house remake then honestly do not watch this one, especially the 1978 version.

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              • MediaGuy
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2004
                • 5500

                #112
                Disregarding all this semantic poop and Hollywood vs. Adult "depictions" (because there's no difference in the eye of the law), I will reiterate:

                OK so nobody can quote source and content for this new Visa "policy"?
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                • webmasterchecks
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1685

                  #113
                  there is a 3rd party compliance company that many processors/banks use whose regular course of business is to spider/monitor the sites under those institutions to ensure they follow the credit card company rules

                  for whatever reason, they recently updated their system to begin flagging those types of sites, i doubt you will see this publicly stated anywhere


                  or so ive heard
                  Last edited by webmasterchecks; 09-13-2009, 11:32 PM.
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                  • Sausage
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3012

                    #114
                    Well I run quite a few voyeur sites very true to the niche, and while I am not stupid enough to have simulated rape on my site, I got the word from a biller and am pulling down anything that can even be considered sleep. Whether it's legal or not is a matter for someone else, but buggered if I am gonna be the low hanging fruit that gets plucked off early.

                    Judging by this thread there are heaps of idiots here more than willing to risk it and keep the content up and they can take the hit for their stupidity! It's all about risk management
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                    • Iron Fist
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 23400

                      #115
                      Lots of discussion but no proof... let's hope people aren't making any decisions based on this thread then
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                      • After Shock Media
                        It's coming look busy
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 35299

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Phallus Fondue
                        then i will say now then NEVER add the following titles to your netflix, they are all the same movie.
                        "i spit on your grave"
                        "day of the woman"
                        "i hate your guts"
                        "the rape and revenge of jennifer hill"

                        i never watched the sequel calles savage vengeance, with same actress.

                        if you were going to fast foward past the brutal rape, your movie would be a few minutes of country and some shopping, fast foward x5 speed, shes alive wow, oh shit fast foward x5 speed, revenge which is brutal too, roll credits.
                        if you watched revenge part, opening, and the wow she lived, your total film is maybe 20 minutes.

                        i only bring this up because cintel films got rights to make the remake and they said a 2009 worldwide release. if you had problems with last house remake then honestly do not watch this one, especially the 1978 version.
                        I would totally agree with this one. I have a pretty strong stomach and can tolerate a great deal. It takes a great deal of shit to make me feel dirty and that movie left me feeling that way for a few days, even if she got revenge in some brutal ways. Even more brutal than in the original last house on the lefts scene where the mother bites one of the rapists cock off mid blow job.

                        If we are bringing up movies and shit that just is not fair. We can not really do fake violence which pissed me off to know end, because I do have a killer site idea that I know will sell even in today's saturated market. We also could never get away with the underage crap Hollywood pulls either and I am not talking fantasy, I am talking 100% real underage nudity and simulated sex scenes - pretty baby anyone? maybe blue lagoon? odd same actress too.

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                        • NikKay
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 1642

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Half man, Half Amazing
                          Welcome to what the rest of the porn industry agreed to 30 years ago. Its just fantasy eh? Then dress up 18yr old girls like 12yr olds and have em say they are 12. After all, it's just a fantasy.

                          Ask Max Hardcore how that worked out, and while you're at it give my regards to Rob Black. The "it's just a fantasy" defense has never worked to defend porners.
                          Max wasn't just dressing 18-year-olds up like 12-year-olds. A ton of companies do that and aren't targeted.

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                          • czarina
                            Webmaster Extraordinaire
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10752

                            #118
                            welcome to America!

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                            • CamJack
                              Old School Webmaster
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 1334

                              #119
                              I always thought this niche was a bad idea (although sexy). How could someone consent while not conscious. Even though the fuckyoucash guys ingeniously had them consent prior to the shoot, it took away from the integrity of the niche and didn't seem likely to protect themselves.
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                              • NikKay
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 1642

                                #120
                                I'm not generally turned on by porn but I do find this niche appealing. Go figure. :-P

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