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What does an iframe have to do with anything- I send and receive through my own personal sites 100s of uniques a day with no problem. We get very good data from our iframes- and it beats paying a traffic broker any day- FREE TRAFFIC- and we mean it! FREE vs PAID TRAFFIC- you choose?
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Try us out and make your decision- We can help you!Last edited by SeanLEE; 09-04-2009, 08:56 PM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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search engines can't read the contents of iframes, so that will affect your rankings - anything you have there won't be indexed, or used as content, keywords, etc. This has been the rule for quite sometime......Comment
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iframes badThis dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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www.AdultLinkExchange.com - Why pay for adult traffic?
Its far from an idea- Its alive- standing tall ,and working!-
lets see how long it take for you "so called Guru's" to figure it out.
Soon to be in the top 100,000 of alexa.
Allready In the top Google serps
for keywords:
- Adult Link Exchange
- Porn Link Exchange
- XXX Link Exchange
- Gay Link Exchange
- Free Adult Traffic
- Trade Adult Traffic
Over 227,000 uniques distributed in a few months
227,000 uniques * .05 = $11,350 USD worth of Quallity Adult Traffic distributed FREE amongst our users.
(What have you done for the adult industry?)
Over 500 Active webmasters trading on our site right now.
Dont be deterred by these webmasters with multiple accounts on GFY trying to convince you that buying traffic is the thing to do. All traffic bought or sold on GFY is 85% garbage- Ask yourself- Why buy from a so called traffic broker- when you can trade quality traffic for free?
Our service is not meant to boost PR, or the such- at the moment we are solely dedicated to distributing as much quality traffic to the adult webmaster at no cost.I spammed in threads!Comment
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So tell me.... what happens if your site gets hacked and an exploit get uploaded to your server? Then all of a sudden.... every site with your iframe get blocked by Google for being an "intermediary", and maybe McAfee jumps in there and flags all sites as "red" for Trojans.
Once again, the IFRAME arguement isn't about PR... I could care fucking less about PR...
Good luck with it.i like wafflesComment
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www.AdultLinkExchange.com - Why pay for adult traffic?
Do you ask this question when you add LiveJasmine.com live feeds to your sites?
All those concerned with iframes- are the same ones who are doing all the cookie stuffing-
You dont question the cam sites when you add multiple feeds-
Give me a break-
Like it or not we are probably going to feed more newbies the bulk of our traffic- as the old heads are to stern and set in ther ways. No problem we look forward to distributing FREE Adult traffic to those who need it the most!I spammed in threads!Comment
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Do you ask this question when you add LiveJasmine.com live feeds to your sites?
All those concerned with iframes- are the same ones who are doing all the cookie stuffing-
You dont question the cam sites when you add multiple feeds-
Give me a break-
Like it or not we are probably going to feed more newbies the bulk of our traffic- as the old heads are to stern and set in ther ways. No problem we look forward to distributing FREE Adult traffic to those who need it the most!
As much as I dislike LiveJasmine, I am 100% sure they have the knowledge to prevent +99% of the potential intrusions. You however - i dont know anything about.
I think that sums up what most people would concludeComment
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www.AdultLinkExchange.com - Why pay for adult traffic?
And all these what ifs? "What if" an adult webmaster purchased traffic from ChokerTraffic, JuicyLinks, TrafficHolder, or BlackLabelAds- and didnt make a (ROI) Return On Their Investment? (Which most often is the case- especially for adult webmasters new to the business.)So tell me.... what happens if your site gets hacked and an exploit get uploaded to your server? Then all of a sudden.... every site with your iframe get blocked by Google for being an "intermediary", and maybe McAfee jumps in there and flags all sites as "red" for Trojans.
Once again, the IFRAME arguement isn't about PR... I could care fucking less about PR...
Good luck with it.
Im glad over 500 adult webmasters just like myself are risk takers- We can just keep the traffic to ourselves.Last edited by SeanLEE; 09-05-2009, 05:17 AM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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Although I'd like to spend my long weekend arguing the finer points of traffic brokers..
I am a publisher on JuicyAds and I sell spots through JuicyAds on some of my sites... yes, the very same sites that I make sale referrals from and pay my bills with.
So your arguement that all broker traffic is crap doesn't hold any water.i like wafflesComment
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What is the worst converting traffic type of all kind? Offcourse any traffic that starts with a "T" Tube, TGP... now Sharphead ask yourself ...what kind of traffic are you selling to JuicyLinks-
and there is my answer.
How can a webmaster paying minimiun (.05-.15) cents a click get a return on the worst converting traffic type being sold at premium prices.
Ohh come on- THOSE WHO ARE TIRED OF PAYING FOR TRAFFIC THAT IS OVER VALUED click belowLast edited by SeanLEE; 09-05-2009, 05:40 AM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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Even google tries to scare people into thinking traffic trading is bad... because they know their system is flawed! If we all traded traffic- Why would we need google? In 1998 LinkExchange.com was sold to microsoft for 265 million dollars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinkExchange)... this is when google came up with their PR system deeming link trading a google crime.
But Microsoft really was ahead of their time with beleving in this concept of link exchange. They lost trying to compete- instead of continue to innovate- thus them now being behind the curve when they once led the race at one time.
I watched all my sites grow during two consecutive summers when normally traffic declines- and its because of this link exchange system and the help of others that have contributed their traffic.
Its up to us as webmasters to break the mold- and start fighting back- trading without fear- It will happen - thus google changing the look of their search engine- (moving sponsored ads closer to the so called real searches). They are losing money! The game is shifting..
Google's business model is in trouble, and so is every traffic aggregator who imposes this old buy/sell trafic scheme.
You may not understand my logic now- but I assure you things will change.Last edited by SeanLEE; 09-05-2009, 05:56 AM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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the issue with iframes is that the content of what appears on your site can be changed at any given point without you knowing itWhat does an iframe have to do with anything- I send and receive through my own personal sites 100s of uniques a day with no problem. We get very good data from our iframes- and it beats paying a traffic broker any day- FREE TRAFFIC- and we mean it! FREE vs PAID TRAFFIC- you choose?Comment
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If the traffic is so horrible, why would people put in positive ratings regarding said traffic, or even bother to renew their terms? Maybe it's because they are actually making sales off said traffic and are happy with it's performance. Granted a lot of brokers don't allow their buyers to rate the publishers, those would be brokers I would like to avoid - because if the traffic was so good as they all claim, then they would want the buyers to be able to share that news... makes sense does it? Does your site allow ratings?
I'd have people renew their terms for 9 months or more... and if you think TGP traffic is the "worst converting" traffic there is.. then you don't really know a lot about TGP's, either how to build them or how to run them...
Stick to your IFRAME linking scheme. It seems to be working for you!
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Exactly....there's been a few instances in mainstream where a MAJOR publisher got hacked and infected surfers for hours before they had to turn the whole system off and start all over...
Why... here's an example: http://www.bannervip.com/
Funny thing, is they don't even know it!
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[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Its far from an idea- Its alive- standing tall ,and working!-
lets see how long it take for you "so called Guru's" to figure it out.
Soon to be in the top 100,000 of alexa.
And it distributed, quote your site: "606 unique clicks were generated today"
Im not sure what it is now, your attacking people selling traffic, but you dont distribute more then a few k a day with that thousands of sites in your list?!
If its about PR and hardlink trading, i get it now. But you always make it look like your distributing a lot of traffic, but your not? Or?
Over 227,000 uniques distributed in a few months
227,000 uniques * .05 = $11,350 USD worth of Quallity Adult Traffic distributed FREE amongst our users.
(What have you done for the adult industry?)
Your site says it distributed a few hundred clicks today. If thats what your bragging about, i dont get it.
Over 500 Active webmasters trading on our site right now.
So .. 500 sites, doing 1 click a day?
Dont be deterred by these webmasters with multiple accounts on GFY trying to convince you that buying traffic is the thing to do. All traffic bought or sold on GFY is 85% garbage- Ask yourself- Why buy from a so called traffic broker- when you can trade quality traffic for free?
Because 1 click a day doesnt really help?
Our service is not meant to boost PR, or the such- at the moment we are solely dedicated to distributing as much quality traffic to the adult webmaster at no cost.Did you just say sharpie and me for example, are cookiestuffing?Do you ask this question when you add LiveJasmine.com live feeds to your sites?
All those concerned with iframes- are the same ones who are doing all the cookie stuffing-
You dont question the cam sites when you add multiple feeds-
Give me a break-
Like it or not we are probably going to feed more newbies the bulk of our traffic- as the old heads are to stern and set in ther ways. No problem we look forward to distributing FREE Adult traffic to those who need it the most!
And get 1 click a day, whoopdiedoo!What is the worst converting traffic type of all kind? Offcourse any traffic that starts with a "T" Tube, TGP... now Sharphead ask yourself ...what kind of traffic are you selling to JuicyLinks-
and there is my answer.
How can a webmaster paying minimiun (.05-.15) cents a click get a return on the worst converting traffic type being sold at premium prices.
Ohh come on- THOSE WHO ARE TIRED OF PAYING FOR TRAFFIC THAT IS OVER VALUED click below
I dont know where you get the generalised bull from that Tubes and Tgps have the worst traffic, but from what your writing here and in general i can conclude you never run one of them.
Get a clue.. come back.Last edited by Jack Sparrow; 09-05-2009, 06:28 AM.Comment
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When people say frames are bad they're talking about pages that are being displayed inside frames or framesets and not a small banner sized iframe that is just seen as a blank spot by SE robots. You can place other text and links between the iframe tags for browsers that can't read iframes.
If it were between a remote script inclusion like javascript/php or an iframe, I would still pick the iframe.
And SeanLEE, people don't like the thread jacking in-your-face marketing tactics. Not many are going to respond well to that.Traffic-Out
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iframe are bad and your site layout isnt that great..not to mention all the sites that once you do click have a million popupsSkype: Traffic-RushHour | ICQ: 467617514Comment
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www.AdultLinkExchange.com - Why pay for adult traffic?
Thank you- at least someone is appreciative of our efforts. This site has cost us more than it has made- but its a great feeling to be able to help people who want the help.
It seems every person in this thread who has had something negative to say- all have a "Traffic selling" program in their sig.
I guess slowly but shortly we are taking business from these people- so I can understand their frustration.
Best of luck to all- and thanks for the support!Last edited by SeanLEE; 09-06-2009, 09:14 AM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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It seems you are fucking delusional or just plain old blindComment
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I don't sell traffic, and the site looks like an abortion.
Maybe I'm just swayed to the negative because you relentlessly spam the fuck out of everyones threads with your spew about these 'links' being good.
They may send a few clicks, but I don't think the traffic companies are worried. Most 'real' webmasters wont touch your site.
Instead of getting defensive and turning into a little bitch, you should try to change it, and get those 'webmasters' using your site.
You run a site built to cater to webmasters, then tell all the ones with actual traffic and that have an actual clue, to get fucked, and that they don't have a clue. Pretty fucking stupid Sean.LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
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I don't sell traffic, and the site looks like an abortion.
Maybe I'm just swayed to the negative because you relentlessly spam the fuck out of everyones threads with your spew about these 'links' being good.
They may send a few clicks, but I don't think the traffic companies are worried. Most 'real' webmasters wont touch your site.
Instead of getting defensive and turning into a little bitch, you should try to change it, and get those 'webmasters' using your site.
You run a site built to cater to webmasters, then tell all the ones with actual traffic and that have an actual clue, to get fucked, and that they don't have a clue. Pretty fucking stupid Sean.
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We could care less about luring so called Top webmasters into using our system. We want webmasters who use are system to be innovators and independent thinkers. People who can make desicions on their own without the opinions of others. Those who will embrace us when we are a small site and when we become a bigger site.
Our site has done great #'s with mid level webmasters and newbies- If these are the type of people that like our service than these are the people we will cater to.
Ever heard the joke what weighs more a pound of feathers or a pound of rocks?
Well what traffic is better? 200,000 uniques from newbies and mid-level webmasters- or 200,000 uniques from a few traffic gurus?
Exactly!- its all the same.
Still in beta testing-We are averaging 2-3 new adult webmasters a day- so we know that what we have created is working.
Again, thanks for all the support from our loyal webmasters-
without you this wouldnt be possible.Last edited by SeanLEE; 09-06-2009, 09:44 AM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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You won't catch many innovative or freethinking webmasters using 'innovative' technology like iframe link/traffic trades systems, they stopped doing that in 2003.We could care less about luring so called Top webmasters into using our system. We want webmasters who use are system to be innovators and independent thinkers. People who can make desicions on their own without the opinions of others. Those who will embrace us when we are a small site and when we become a big site.
And I didn't say top webmasters anywhere above, what I did say was real webmasters. If you want to play around with surfers building cheesy blogs and tgps with 100 clicks a day, feel free. The rest of us are businessmen and we are here to make money. Just like those newbies are, they will use anything that is adding to traffic on their sites. Why not have a system that newbs with 100 a day and older sites can both use, that would be most prosperous for your 'loyals'.
I'm actually trying to be truthful here with ya, not grilling you. If you love the idea so much and really wanted it to succeed, you wouldn't be ignoring the simple facts, and you would be attempting to build a better system that REAL WEBMASTERS want to use.
Does it really matter what the newbie webmaster thinks about the service? They will like anything that makes their business better or easier. So why not while doing that, actually give them something that WORKS. You would think your loyal users would be much happier when they actually saw great improvements from using the services, and if it was full of seasoned, and new webmasters.
And please stop telling us how great it works. If I was down to 200k uniques over the period of a few months on a network supposedly 'full' of webmasters I WOULD CONSIDER MYSELF OUT OF TRAFFIC. You say 200k to ANYONE that is a webmaster in regards to traffic and they assume 1 day of traffic. ( I do NOT run any 200k sites for the record).
Its building, you've accomplished something, why fuck it up by ignoring simple necessity and future users by thinking that changes wouldn't benefit the site or model. When you post something and 95% of your target market says they wouldn't touch it, you need to fix something.
This isn't a 'depends' situation, its just 'innovation'.LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
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I am a newbie still. ($300,000 in - and still a newbie)
This site was created by a newbie and a room full of elite programmers who want nothing more than to see us all succeed.
There is a lot more to come-
Many new mods!
Lots of new systems.
Our non porn version link exchange, Exchange-Links.com will be the most complex system we have ever made. (Coming January 2010)
We are just glad we can give back to the Adult Webmaster Community and Industry (an industry that has paid us well for the past few years.)
Thanks again to all for the support.Last edited by SeanLEE; 09-06-2009, 10:13 AM.I spammed in threads!Comment
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Are you kidding? Elite programmers who built a link exchange system that has been tried and failed hundreds of times over? Shall I start listing failed services? What you are doing is nothing new... sorry to break it to you.I am a newbie still. ($300,000 in - and still a newbie)
This site was created by a newbie and a room full of elite programmers who want nothing more than to see us all succeed.
There is a lot more to come-
Many new mods!
Lots of new systems.
Our non porn version link exchange, Exchange-Links.com will be the most complex system we have ever made. (Coming January 2010)
We are just glad we can give back to the Adult Webmaster Community and Industry (an industry that has paid us well for the past few years.)
Thanks again to all for the support.Comment
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And that room full of programmers, and the 500 webmasters using the service, have generated a whopping 1300 clicks today.
I'm small potatoes compared to some I know and I've already sent double that many clicks to a few different sponsors today.
EDIT: and from just one website.LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
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Nice try: more like 2000 uniques today... and we are averaging 2 clicks per minute- and every day we do it all over again-
Thus generating a total of 231,170 unique clicks, since March 2009. Yes these #'s may be small.
But at .05$ a click- we have contributed (231,170 uniques x .05$ = $11,558.5) worth of free traffic to the online adult industry.
Click here- and refresh the page every 30 seconds or so- Watch how the traffic constantly increases
LOL Jdoughs we never wanted to compete with anyone- I am glad your business dealings and associates are well.
We own many differnet businesses online and off- We are not here to compete- We just want to continue to challenge ourselves and make the best works we possibly can.
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nice job man. to be honest i dont really like how the links are displayed and that big multicolored xyze bothers me. also couldnt the links simply be diplayed in paragraphs or tables? this would give webmaster more control. I think you should be commended for working your plan and building a good business for yourself. But i think you be open to suggestions to improve your product. i dont think the way these guys go about it is good but they have some good points as well as youNice try: more like 2000 uniques today... and we are averaging 2 clicks per minute- and every day we do it all over again-
Thus generating a total of 231,170 unique clicks, since March 2009. Yes these #'s may be small.
But at .05$ a click- we have contributed (231,170 uniques x .05$ = $11,558.5) worth of free traffic to the online adult industry.
Click here- and refresh the page every 30 seconds or so- Watch how the traffic constantly increases
LOL Jdoughs we never wanted to compete with anyone- I am glad your business dealings and associates are well.
We own many differnet businesses online and off- We are not here to compete- We just want to continue to challenge ourselves and make the best works we possibly can.
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