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  • Bravo
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 393

    #1

    trafficbroker - cheater ?

    hi there, its Bravo from bravomediagroup.com
    i'd like to publish some bulshit about one of traffic broker i tried

    details is below:
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    current orders for xxxxxxxxx.com

    (5 orders , 2708 hits/hour) - 64k per day
    http://www.domain1.com/index.php?id=8610 $3.5
    http://www.domain2.com $3.14
    http://www.domain3.com $3.12
    http://www.domain4.com/tgp.shtml $3.11
    http://domain5.com/html/2d/49690d638...a82522f2b.html $3.3

    daily stats
    59366 13286 1242 80.34% $2.69

    sold 59366 80.34% sold average price is $2.69!!
    and they promised 5% comission for traffic sale ?

    much more promised 5% - looks like cheat?

    i spoke with several other webmasters - the whole picture is very similar, seems like this traffic broker cheat us ?
    Last edited by Bravo; 08-30-2009, 01:25 PM.
  • MoreMagic
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2006
    • 2851

    #2
    ohhh ohhhhh SIGSPOT

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    • MoreMagic
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2006
      • 2851

      #3
      Now please be a little more clear, I don't understand a fuck from this.

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      • ravo
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2001
        • 5461

        #4
        Yeah, I don't understand either.

        You sold them 59366 hits and only earned $2.69??
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        • LeRoy
          Porn Pusher
          • Jul 2007
          • 13362

          #5
          Sure would like to know the name of the traffic broker.
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          • CurrentlySober
            Too lazy to wipe my ass
            • Aug 2002
            • 38947

            #6
            hahaha cog...

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            • SEOsoft
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2005
              • 326

              #7
              Whats his name dude?
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              • TrafficRush
                See My SIG!
                • Dec 2003
                • 2099

                #8
                thats unfortunate we don't see you as a seller so i doubt it us
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                • sicone
                  Retired
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 18453

                  #9
                  Did you order traffic or sale traffic?

                  Why would you get a commission on traffic you order?
                  Last edited by sicone; 08-30-2009, 02:17 PM.

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                  • Dood
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 353

                    #10
                    It obviously wasn't us but...

                    You may need to clarify if you're buying or selling traffic and what the 5% commission is for.

                    From the stats you listed the average price is $3.234 and 80.34% of that is actually $2.598. None of the numbers add up.
                    Last edited by Dood; 08-30-2009, 02:52 PM.
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                    • Tjeezers
                      Webmaster
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 16603

                      #11
                      Please inform, sounds like a story hear we want to hear about.

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                      • fris
                        I have to go potty
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 55729

                        #12
                        tell us which broker so we can avoid them
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                        • Iron Fist
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 23400

                          #13
                          Nice... 60K traffic and you got 3 bucks? That's awesome.. i'm sure it was a rogue programmer or a glitch in the system.. you know how that goes....

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                          • brassmonkey
                            Pay It Forward
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 77385

                            #14
                            Last edited by brassmonkey; 08-30-2009, 06:34 PM.
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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sharphead
                              Nice... 60K traffic and you got 3 bucks? That's awesome.. i'm sure it was a rogue programmer or a glitch in the system.. you know how that goes....
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                              • xApster
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 1188

                                #16
                                He sold 80% of his traffic at an average price of $2.69 per K... that's what that means.
                                Last edited by xApster; 08-30-2009, 09:37 PM.

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                                • Miguel T
                                  ♦ Web Developer ♦
                                  • May 2005
                                  • 12470

                                  #17
                                  Looks like someone is cheating... that's for sure.

                                  Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

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                                  • Bravo
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 393

                                    #18
                                    I was selling traffic to some broker.
                                    After I had a look at the selling statistics, I found out I might me cheated with the price and income I get.

                                    Main statistics shows for the exact day:
                                    Paid - 59366
                                    Returned - 13286
                                    Test - 1242
                                    Sold - 80.34%
                                    Average price - $2.69
                                    INCOME for this day: $159.6812

                                    But also it shows that I have 5 direct orders for my domain
                                    (5 orders , 2708 hits/hour) - its about 64k per day
                                    order prices:
                                    http://www.domain1.com/index.php?id=8610 $3.5
                                    http://www.domain2.com $3.14
                                    http://www.domain3.com $3.12
                                    http://www.domain4.com/tgp.shtml $3.11
                                    http://domain5.com/html/2d/49690d638...a82522f2b.html $3.3

                                    As you see all this orders are for 64k per day, that is even more that i send to this broker.

                                    Even considering uniqueness of my incoming traffic, it is 5 different orders with the average price $3.23
                                    So I can even have 20% of uniquenes, and get my traffic sold to all this 5 direct orders (because 1 raw hit for first
                                    order is unique hit for second). But my uniqueness is above 20%.

                                    So with this mathematics I should definately expect my traffic being sold for the average price around $3.1
                                    (not all traffic is sold to direct orders, but to nichemix and other cheaper orders also).

                                    This was subtracting 5% bro

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                                    • Bravo
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 393

                                      #19
                                      and after this i reading at their main page "our 5% service fee is the lowest in the industry"

                                      could somebody explain me

                                      2,69$ is really 95% from 3,23$ ?

                                      or they really charged me 16,7% instead of promised 5%?

                                      3+ times difference

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                                      • Choker
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 9024

                                        #20
                                        It's not me either
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                                        • fris
                                          I have to go potty
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 55729

                                          #21
                                          was it protraffic?
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                                          • papill0n
                                            Unregistered Abuser
                                            • Oct 2007
                                            • 15547

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by alextm
                                            and after this i reading at their main page "our 5% service fee is the lowest in the industry"

                                            could somebody explain me

                                            2,69$ is really 95% from 3,23$ ?

                                            or they really charged me 16,7% instead of promised 5%?

                                            3+ times difference
                                            95% of $3.23 is $3.06

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                                            • FrozenJag
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2006
                                              • 1763

                                              #23
                                              Im sure your talking about Traffic Holder. Looks like their stats.

                                              What your not considering is part of your traffic is also no cookie, no referer, proxy, etc. Which fetches only in the 1.20 range, this brings your averages down.

                                              I dont think they are cheating you. Thats pretty common stats. Although your sold percentage I figured would be closer to 85 to 90.

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                                              • JFK
                                                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                • Jan 2002
                                                • 67369

                                                #24
                                                interesting

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                                                • Bravo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 393

                                                  #25
                                                  still waiting detailed info from buyers about volume of their real delivered orders. seems like everything just my misunderstanding, becouse broker support explained me:

                                                  (5 orders , 2708 hits/hour) its just ordered traffic, but not delivered,

                                                  but strange..

                                                  the same moment they wrote i have one of orders with 9999 per h speed (looks much bigger 2708, right ?), and plus 4 other, i'm totally confused with this story and waiting confirmation from buyers about detailed purchased volume.

                                                  i'm not on the way to tell names without all proofs so i published it here without names. if i will be wrong i will publish my apologies here.

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                                                  • The Duck
                                                    Adult Content Provider
                                                    • May 2005
                                                    • 18243

                                                    #26
                                                    In for the drama.
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                                                    • SeanLEE
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                      • 1556

                                                      #27
                                                      maybe you should try a different source
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                                                      • pornocruto
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2009
                                                        • 1308

                                                        #28
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                                                        • twinkley
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 807

                                                          #29
                                                          Hmmm I hope you get it cleared up man

                                                          It's not any of the big boys - as soon as he quoted the 5% thing I knew who it was, they promote it on their site.

                                                          I took a look at this a few weeks ago to buy, but I couldn't get a contact for anyone there.

                                                          My .02 is that any broker / agency selling traffic is going to be easy to get ahold of - email, phone, icq / IM - whatever. When I couldn't find any of these things on the site, I went looking elsewhere.

                                                          I hope they can explain the numbers for you, and you get this resolved properly. Either way, let us know!

                                                          twinkley
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                                                          • TrafficHolder
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Sep 2006
                                                            • 79

                                                            #30
                                                            We have explained these numbers to the Customer and even provided more detailed
                                                            stats. Not all traffic is being sold for this price (because of low amount of uniques).

                                                            Now any Customer can see how much exactly ordered and how much exactly delivered
                                                            to each order.

                                                            Thanks,
                                                            http://trafficholder.com/

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                                                            • brassmonkey
                                                              Pay It Forward
                                                              • Sep 2005
                                                              • 77385

                                                              #31
                                                              oh trafficholder.com damn
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                                                              • Bravo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 393

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by TrafficHolder
                                                                We have explained these numbers to the Customer and even provided more detailed stats. Not all traffic is being sold for this price (because of low amount of uniques).

                                                                Now any Customer can see how much exactly ordered and how much exactly delivered
                                                                to each order.

                                                                Thanks,
                                                                http://trafficholder.com/
                                                                yes, that's true, now everything much better, thank you guys!

                                                                but i see DIRECT order stats PER current HOUR, not 24h orders history, mmm, i cant monitor your admin area hourly to understand how much was sold per day

                                                                could you please add daily direct_orders' stats as well ?

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