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gwidomains · 08-30-2009, 11:23 AM

For those who don't respect Edward Kennedy and treat his life so harshly, I wonder who you do respect...

1st election to the senate -- most senators get their positions through a combination of connections and good fortune... remember Senators were APPOINTED positions initially --- the founders didn't even pretend to be democratic about the selection of senators.

2nd If you go through the modern senate you'd find a great deal of the people both R and D are family politicians and well connected types, as a result I'd nip that critique in the bud.

e.g. He won his initial by beating George Cabot Lodge II for goodness sake, the senate -- even today is FULL of people who got the position with help from their name:
Eban Bayh (I)
Kristen Gillibrand (ny)
Judd Gregg (NH)
(those are just off the top of my head, there are many others Udalls are more, so that's 5 in total with no research.)

3rd This guy overcame demons like none other
a.) His family's shining star Joe P Kennedy Jr. (his oldest bro) died in the war, his sister had a number of failed procedures. Then one of his older sisters died.

b.) Both his bros were assinated
c.) He narrowly averted death in that plane crash and ended up in the hospital for months.
etc...

d.) His kid had to get his leg amputated ...

----At a time when Civil Rights was still a hot button issue in BOTH Democratic and Republican circles (remember MA actually had a Black Republican Senator in the 60s).

Kennedy fought against Southern Democrats for the little guy.

In seeing his eulogy I was reminded how much Kennedy fought for the downtrodden in society -- poor southern blacks who couldn't vote, immigrants (moving to a meriocratic basis rather than country of origin), the poor etc.

Kennedy could have decided at almost any point to "enrich the old coffers,"(gb II) or retreat from public life entirely...

There is nothing you can do to replace a human life, or make up for any other mistake, but you can get up, get on, and contribute to society.

Given how harshly you examine Kennedy's life I'm left to wonder what you will do with your own life to make up for your mistakes in life.

08-30-2009, 11:23 AM
gwidomains Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 426	For those who don't respect Edward Kennedy and treat his life so harshly, I wonder who you do respect... 1st election to the senate -- most senators get their positions through a combination of connections and good fortune... remember Senators were APPOINTED positions initially --- the founders didn't even pretend to be democratic about the selection of senators. 2nd If you go through the modern senate you'd find a great deal of the people both R and D are family politicians and well connected types, as a result I'd nip that critique in the bud. e.g. He won his initial by beating George Cabot Lodge II for goodness sake, the senate -- even today is FULL of people who got the position with help from their name: Eban Bayh (I) Kristen Gillibrand (ny) Judd Gregg (NH) (those are just off the top of my head, there are many others Udalls are more, so that's 5 in total with no research.) 3rd This guy overcame demons like none other a.) His family's shining star Joe P Kennedy Jr. (his oldest bro) died in the war, his sister had a number of failed procedures. Then one of his older sisters died. b.) Both his bros were assinated c.) He narrowly averted death in that plane crash and ended up in the hospital for months. etc... d.) His kid had to get his leg amputated ... ----At a time when Civil Rights was still a hot button issue in BOTH Democratic and Republican circles (remember MA actually had a Black Republican Senator in the 60s). Kennedy fought against Southern Democrats for the little guy. In seeing his eulogy I was reminded how much Kennedy fought for the downtrodden in society -- poor southern blacks who couldn't vote, immigrants (moving to a meriocratic basis rather than country of origin), the poor etc. Kennedy could have decided at almost any point to "enrich the old coffers,"(gb II) or retreat from public life entirely... There is nothing you can do to replace a human life, or make up for any other mistake, but you can get up, get on, and contribute to society. Given how harshly you examine Kennedy's life I'm left to wonder what you will do with your own life to make up for your mistakes in life.