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  • Allison
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 2068

    #1

    What are your ethical standards for yourself in the industry?

    So this is a topic that comes up in conversation pretty randomly with folks in the industry and outside. I?m curious as members of the adult industry where you draw a line with moral convictions/ethics, IE where you say ?I won?t be associated or support XYZ no matter how much money I could make.?
    84
    promoting/distributing/creating... product that is similar to content convicted of being “obscene”
    0%
    8
    product that although is legal, depicts very young looking girls
    0%
    10
    product where the fantasy is borderline dangerous (rape, abuse, shitting into someone’s mouth, etc)
    0%
    13
    product that utilizes copyright or trademark infringement
    0%
    16
    product that is fraudulent to the consumer- IE hidden cross sales, inability to cancel, etc
    0%
    18
    product that uses any technique annoying to the consumer (pop ups, email spam, spyware, etc)
    0%
    14
    I have no line, as long as it makes me money.
    0%
    5
    Allison
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  • Lace
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2004
    • 16116

    #2
    Morals, ethics? Who the hell has them anymore now-a-days?
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    • MaDalton
      I am Amazing Content!
      • Feb 2004
      • 39861

      #3
      Originally posted by Lace
      Morals, ethics? Who the hell has them anymore now-a-days?
      i do - crazy, ain't it?
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      • »Rob Content«
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        • Dec 2006
        • 4348

        #4
        lol at my vote

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        • seeric
          ..........
          • Aug 2004
          • 41917

          #5
          funny and ironic on so many levels.

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          • Iron Fist
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2006
            • 23400

            #6
            Ironic if you can prove it...
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            • FrozenJag
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2006
              • 1763

              #7
              Well you forgot option " I dont do any of those things, im actually a very clean webmaster".

              So in any event, I didnt vote.

              I swear nowadays people think you have to push the limits just to make money, thats far from true.


              EDIT** OOOPS. lol, missed the whole "NOT" in the poll wording. My bad.
              Last edited by FrozenJag; 08-27-2009, 10:10 AM.

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              • 96ukssob
                So Fucking Banananananas
                • Mar 2003
                • 12991

                #8
                i read this wrong
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                • Allison
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 2068

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FrozenJag
                  Well you forgot option " I dont do any of those things, im actually a very clean webmaster".

                  So in any event, I didnt vote.

                  I swear nowadays people think you have to push the limits just to make money, thats far from true.


                  EDIT** OOOPS. lol, missed the whole "NOT" in the poll wording. My bad.
                  Ha, I was going to say, I think you would then select all of them except the last one.
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                  • kristin
                    GOO!
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 9768

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FrozenJag
                    Well you forgot option " I dont do any of those things, im actually a very clean webmaster".

                    So in any event, I didnt vote.

                    I swear nowadays people think you have to push the limits just to make money, thats far from true.


                    EDIT** OOOPS. lol, missed the whole "NOT" in the poll wording. My bad.
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                    • C H R I S
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 10842

                      #11
                      great poll ali
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                      • Profits of Doom
                        Monster Rain
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 4978

                        #12
                        I really wanted to be that guy that had ethics, but I no longer give a shit and will do whatever I feel is necessary to make money. I posted this a few days ago and I think it bears repeating one more time...

                        The porn I do promote is pretty much micro niche, and I have an outsourced worker that I use to send DMCA's to sites when he finds content of the niches I am promoting.

                        Last night he showed me a site that is full of stolen content, directbigboobs.net, that I figured was monetizing with the usual Brazzers ads. But when I looked at the site I also saw straight affiliate banners for Score Cash, Fuck You Cash, and Reality Cash. That is when I officially decided I no longer give a fuck. If those three big programs don't care what kind of traffic they take, I no longer give a fuck what sleazy shit I have to do to make money, either.

                        And before anyone starts with the "did you contact the sponsor" bullshit, yes he did, and he told me he two of the sponsors didn't bother answering him, and one gave him a terse "we'll have legal look into it" response without answering his other questions, and the links to all three programs still work...
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                        • Allison
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 2068

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                          I really wanted to be that guy that had ethics, but I no longer give a shit and will do whatever I feel is necessary to make money. I posted this a few days ago and I think it bears repeating one more time...

                          The porn I do promote is pretty much micro niche, and I have an outsourced worker that I use to send DMCA's to sites when he finds content of the niches I am promoting.

                          Last night he showed me a site that is full of stolen content, directbigboobs.net, that I figured was monetizing with the usual Brazzers ads. But when I looked at the site I also saw straight affiliate banners for Score Cash, Fuck You Cash, and Reality Cash. That is when I officially decided I no longer give a fuck. If those three big programs don't care what kind of traffic they take, I no longer give a fuck what sleazy shit I have to do to make money, either.

                          And before anyone starts with the "did you contact the sponsor" bullshit, yes he did, and he told me he two of the sponsors didn't bother answering him, and one gave him a terse "we'll have legal look into it" response without answering his other questions, and the links to all three programs still work...
                          I hear ya. We (the industry) have always talked a big game as an industry as a whole against this or that, but when it comes to people putting money where their mouth is it's a different story and as long as there seems to be 0 consequence, I think a lot of people think like you do.
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                          • BradM
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 3397

                            #14
                            I won't be involved in underage/rape bullshit.

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                            • Yo Adrian
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 6326

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sharphead
                              Ironic if you can prove it...
                              that's funny cause it's true
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                              • Kevin Marx
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 1888

                                #16
                                it's called 'Situational Ethics' and it changes for people depending on the situation. Also what people say vs. what they do are two different things.

                                The priest that spouts out sermons decrying porn, yet has his secret stash has situational ethics and morals. Many (most) people on this board do also. When it comes to money, people work more in the grey areas that they normally wouldn't. Just a simple fact of life.
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                                • Allison
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 2068

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Kevin-SFBucks
                                  it's called 'Situational Ethics' and it changes for people depending on the situation. Also what people say vs. what they do are two different things.

                                  The priest that spouts out sermons decrying porn, yet has his secret stash has situational ethics and morals. Many (most) people on this board do also. When it comes to money, people work more in the grey areas that they normally wouldn't. Just a simple fact of life.

                                  Agreed. Saying and doing are very different and I think very applicable in our industry.
                                  Allison
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                                  • tony299
                                    lurker
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #18
                                    Sorry if your ethical standards change like the wind then they arent standards and a bigger problem is many companies and people are put under the adult industry umbrella and embraced. Even though they dont have the industries best interest at heart.

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                                    • epitome
                                      So Fucking Lame
                                      • Jun 2009
                                      • 12156

                                      #19
                                      I could have tens of millions of dollars lying around right now if only I would have abandoned my ethics.

                                      ...actually, just about any of us could.

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                                      • JaneB

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FrozenJag
                                        Well you forgot option " I dont do any of those things, im actually a very clean webmaster".

                                        So in any event, I didnt vote.

                                        I swear nowadays people think you have to push the limits just to make money, thats far from true.


                                        EDIT** OOOPS. lol, missed the whole "NOT" in the poll wording. My bad.

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                                        • FrozenJag
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 1763

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by kristin
                                          Get the list of the mobile gallery links I sent over yesterday?
                                          Yes! Thank you

                                          They are scheduled to go up tonight. Already had last night planned.

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                                          • Phallus Fondue
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2009
                                            • 418

                                            #22
                                            some of those i felt were worded wrong or just off as they had to be answered as yes and no.
                                            take for example this one.
                                            product where the fantasy is borderline dangerous (rape, abuse, shitting into someone’s mouth, etc)
                                            rape would just be acting and a fantasy, not real. abuse is very vague but assuming some choking or slapping, again can be faked or kept safe but just has on screen appearance that comes off harsh.
                                            then you have shitting into someones mouth. not only would that be real and also real dangerous. even if you do not take a shit and say use what i saw yesterday on here being milk. typically a very safe product unless lactose intolerant. though inserted into someones ass and projected into someones mouth just could not be made safe. it is not like anyone could sterlize someones entire lower intestine. sure it may look clean, or lets say the first 8 inches or so look clean. girl douched out her ass or whatever. it would not clean that far up unless she went in for a pretty good hosing out. so that would mean the milk could still reach and mix with actual shit or shit leakage/lubricant. the hosing also would not kill all of the bacteria in her ass. even a small amount of contaimination could result in severe sickness or even death if left untreated.
                                            knowing how well or actually not well that many models treat their health, having one allow what seems like flu like symptoms to go untreated would not be hard to swallow.
                                            death due to drinking milk out of someones asshole on a porn set just would not sit well with me and i am sure others would not, not notice it and throw a fucking fit.

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                                            • CunningStunt
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 5594

                                              #23
                                              Good question Allison.

                                              I doubt many will own up to the last one though. Not if they know it's a public vote anyway...

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