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  • Marcus
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 3472

    #1

    Business thread: is Google PR dead?

    This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead. Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content.

    I don't know if I should pull those links and spend that money instead promoting my site, or leave it there and eventually get a higher PR.
    I dont really understand what PR in terms of actual results, does it get you more traffic?
  • scottybuzz
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2006
    • 14799

    #2
    well a very good example is sex.com

    a pr0 yet makes loads!
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    • Dirty Dane
      Sick Fuck
      • Feb 2004
      • 9491

      #3
      Google is pulling the PR.

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      • Tuga
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 7678

        #4
        There is no money in P(o)R(n).

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        • 2HousePlague
          CURATOR
          • Jul 2004
          • 14572

          #5






          2hp
          tada!

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          • polish_aristocrat
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2002
            • 40377

            #6
            Originally posted by scottybuzz
            well a very good example is sex.com

            a pr0 yet makes loads!
            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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            • Babaganoosh
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              • Nov 2001
              • 15841

              #7
              Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.
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              • Ace_luffy
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                • Feb 2005
                • 12168

                #8
                Originally posted by Tuga
                There is no money in P(o)R(n).


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                • SpacemanSpiff
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 230

                  #9
                  PR is just one of many factors that can effect your rankings. Google can crank it's importance up or down. Right now it's pretty far down in the grand scheme of things.
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                  • DjSap
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3869

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                    Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.
                    couldn't agree more, optimize and try to work on the business and the pagerank will come...
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                    • madawgz
                      8.8.8.8
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 30509

                      #11
                      google PR isnt dead, what are you talking about?
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                      • CaptainWolfy
                        Playa
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 8439

                        #12
                        your focus should be on content and theme

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                        • marketsmart
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 20419

                          #13
                          give it more time...

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                          • SlamDesigns
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 2339

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 2HousePlague






                            2hp
                            You always post such relevant content, 2HousePlague. lol. As for PR, I agree with everyone else. Focus on your site, and the PR will come. The importance of PR varies from person to person. Some say you need it, so say you don't. My honest opinion, it's waaaaaay overrated.

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                            • 2HousePlague
                              CURATOR
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 14572

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SlamDesigns
                              You always post such relevant content, 2HousePlague. lol. As for PR, I agree with everyone else. Focus on your site, and the PR will come. The importance of PR varies from person to person. Some say you need it, so say you don't. My honest opinion, it's waaaaaay overrated.
                              Thanks.



                              2hp
                              tada!

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                              • The Sultan Of Smut
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 4325

                                #16
                                Na it's not dead just only one piece of the puzzle.

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                                • 2HousePlague
                                  CURATOR
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 14572

                                  #17





                                  2hp
                                  tada!

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                                  • EBORG9
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2006
                                    • 1823

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                    Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.
                                    Absolutely Prophetic.
                                    You should put that on T-Shirts.
                                    I've never seen it put so eloquently. ( I know I had to spell that Wrong)

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                                    • CC
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 1690

                                      #19
                                      PR is only important because some people place such a high value on it for trades and such. As far as the SERPs go, it's really not important, no.....I have PR5 sites that rank poorly and PR2 sites (even a PR0 at the moment) that rank fine. I think some people put a little too much emphasis on it.
                                      Last edited by CC; 11-10-2006, 09:21 PM.

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                                      • hydro
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2003
                                        • 4216

                                        #20
                                        Don't focus on increasing your pagerank focus on increasing your rankings. Pagerank is next to useless when it comes to making money, its only use is for surfers to know how "relevent" google has judged the site to be. The only people who should worry about pagerank are the people who sell links but only because they can charge more for higher PR links to people who think a pr8 link will increase the sites earnings/traffic.

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                                        • bdld
                                          $100,000
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 11452

                                          #21
                                          PR still has its place, you can demand higher ad rates if you have high pr, for example.

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                                          • aless
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 1265

                                            #22
                                            It is not dead IMHO, it still means something for ranking but it's just a minor factor nowadays.

                                            It's most important value is in my opinion the fact that if you have high PR you'll easier get involved into benefical link exchange schemes because people are more eager to exchange links with a high PR site instead of being eager to exchange links with a high quality relevant site.
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                                            • woj
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 47880

                                              #23
                                              it's only good if you know what you are doing, if you don't, you could have PR8 site and still not rank well for anything...
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                                              • marko13
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                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 7512

                                                #24
                                                you have to work on different aspects of your site .... not just links are important....
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                                                • en21
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                                                  • May 2006
                                                  • 2640

                                                  #25
                                                  PR is still alive... check google website... google advised that PR does affect how u rank in their SE search
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                                                  • beta-tester
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                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                    • 22562

                                                    #26
                                                    PR is not dead, do not underestimate the power of PR, as it shows really how your site is popular in the eyes of Google, higher PR means you get more links, which means your site is more popular than those with lower pr ;)

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                                                    • luvlyn
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                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 498

                                                      #27
                                                      i know PR updates quarterly! wait for january?!
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                                                      • flashfreak
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                        • 4396

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by luvlyn
                                                        i know PR updates quarterly! wait for january?!
                                                        it's not on schedule.. it updates whenever google folks want
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                                                        • Linkster
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 3216

                                                          #29
                                                          Unfortunately as usual people are talking about two different things here

                                                          Page Rank is very important to Google - its the basis for their whole algorithm - and is made up of hundreds of factors - but unless youve been studying it for some time you would never be able to come close to guessing a pages "page rank"

                                                          PR - (what you see in that little green bar or on some seo website) is meaningless - its just a nice little graphic google makes up to appease the clueless webmasters so that they can catch them selling links - its a snapshot about 3 months behind when Google actually updates Page Rank(on almost a daily basis) - and has been this way for over 2 years

                                                          As was said earlier - build a quality site with good content and you'll get the rankings in the SEs you want
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                                                          • Nicky
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 30071

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Linkster
                                                            Unfortunately as usual people are talking about two different things here

                                                            Page Rank is very important to Google - its the basis for their whole algorithm - and is made up of hundreds of factors - but unless youve been studying it for some time you would never be able to come close to guessing a pages "page rank"

                                                            PR - (what you see in that little green bar or on some seo website) is meaningless - its just a nice little graphic google makes up to appease the clueless webmasters so that they can catch them selling links - its a snapshot about 3 months behind when Google actually updates Page Rank(on almost a daily basis) - and has been this way for over 2 years

                                                            As was said earlier - build a quality site with good content and you'll get the rankings in the SEs you want
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                                                            • tincho79
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                              • 59

                                                              #31
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                                                              • NinjaSteve
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                • 11089

                                                                #32
                                                                still lives
                                                                ...

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                                                                • tranza
                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 57559

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                                                  well a very good example is sex.com

                                                                  a pr0 yet makes loads!
                                                                  You are kidding right?

                                                                  Nobody is THAT dumb!!

                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                  • nico-t
                                                                    emperor of my world
                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                    • 29901

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                    Build traffic, not PR. High pagerank is the effect of success, not the cause.
                                                                    exactly...

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                                                                    • Nysus
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 7817

                                                                      #35
                                                                      PR is a good distraction..

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                                                                      • Tempest
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 10217

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Marcus
                                                                        This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead.
                                                                        Find a new "consultant".

                                                                        Originally posted by Marcus
                                                                        Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content.
                                                                        The toolbar PR typically is only updated every 3 months or so, so you'll need to wait longer, especially since an update just occured.

                                                                        What is the PR of the links you're buying?

                                                                        Only having a couple links into your site isn't going to help raise your PR by very much if at all.

                                                                        Buying a link (or getting some free ones) from a PR4+ site can be very helpfull in getting your site/page spidered quickly. So even if it's not helping much with raising your PR, it's still helpfull in getting the SEs coming around frequently.

                                                                        Getting traffic to your site, increasing your PR, at the end of the day it all comes down to the same thing. Increasing the number/quality of links pointing to your site from other places. Focus on that.

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                                                                        • pr0
                                                                          rockin tha trailerpark
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 23088

                                                                          #37
                                                                          hey assholes, lets keep the pr0 talk to a minimum here...i keep getting alerts....lol
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                                                                          • chaze
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                            • 9774

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Marcus
                                                                            This SEO consultant Im talking to says PR is dead. Right now I'm paying for links on similar sites to mine in hopes of getting PR. Its been 2 months now and Im still at 1/10, even thought my site is loaded with relevant content.

                                                                            I don't know if I should pull those links and spend that money instead promoting my site, or leave it there and eventually get a higher PR.
                                                                            I don't really understand what PR in terms of actual results, does it get you more traffic?
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                                                                            • ffmihai
                                                                              keep walking...
                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                              • 7177

                                                                              #39
                                                                              i can sell you links on my sites. most of the time PR grows to 3-4
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                                                                              • facialfreak
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 3018

                                                                                #40
                                                                                What ever happened to the novel idea of EARNING your rank??

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                                                                                • lambpie
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 671

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  its not dead, you'll still need high quality incoming links with relevant anchor text to compete if your hoping to generate traffic through google..

                                                                                  its all about content and links.. google really is that simple..

                                                                                  but incoming links first.. do a search for "miserable failure" on google and you'll see what i mean..

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