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Why don't sponsors give you credit for referrals?

11-08-2006, 03:22 PM

i notice on a few sites after you click through, with your ref code, you goto the bottom and view the "webmasters make $$$" link at the bottom, no ref code...

is it because their trying to sneak webmasters that view that site from your code from you and hope you don't know? or whats going on? why not just use the same coding for the rest on there, and give webmasters credit for the other webmasters who signup to your program after clicking a link in a page that has your code on it...
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11-08-2006, 03:24 PM

Please post an example URL. Thank you.
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11-08-2006, 03:25 PM

Angry - almost any program going... a few nats ones do have a follow feature, but pretty much all the major programs lose the webmaster code on the make money link.
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11-08-2006, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Angry

Please post an example URL. Thank you.

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11-08-2006, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Angry

Please post an example URL. Thank you.

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11-08-2006, 03:34 PM

that is very interesting, probably because its not direct to the affiliate site but instead to the paysite.

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11-08-2006, 03:37 PM

They want you to work to get your own godamn referrals.
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11-08-2006, 03:37 PM

i've noticed that..... and i wonder why they do that.... i know for money....

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11-08-2006, 03:39 PM

Noticed this a while back - seems to be all the nats sites unfortunately - but at the same time, how much do you really make from referrals?

I've got 100+ referrals in ccbill and they make veryveryvery few sales each month

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11-08-2006, 03:45 PM

"webmasters make money $$$" links to affiliate programs on the tour have to be the most idiotic thing ever. Surfers clicking around seeing that their $1 membership is worth $30 got to make them think twice about signing up or they end up as affiliates without a clue looking for free content.

Aleast make the webmaster link an e-mail address, so potential affiliates will have to e-mail for more information

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11-08-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Bossman

Aleast make the webmaster link an e-mail address, so potential affiliates will have to e-mail for more information

Would you bother emailing them? I wouldn't.

A simple 'Webmasters' link in small font at the bottom of the page shouldn't hurt anyone.
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11-08-2006, 03:47 PM

Just my but typically a webmaster ref code inside of nats is an entirely different code than what is used to send to a typical surfsite.

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11-08-2006, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Jace

http://secure.brookeskye.com/track/MTA2OTc6Mjoy/

That's not good at all.
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11-08-2006, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

Noticed this a while back - seems to be all the nats sites unfortunately - but at the same time, how much do you really make from referrals?

I've got 100+ referrals in ccbill and they make veryveryvery few sales each month

Nope, not ALL NATS sites, we've been running NATS now for almost 2 years, and our webmaster referrals go to the affiliate site, not to our paysites.
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11-08-2006, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by BB-Rick

Nope, not ALL NATS sites, we've been running NATS now for almost 2 years, and our webmaster referrals go to the affiliate site, not to our paysites.
http://www.methodcash.com/track/Mzo2OjM/

Thanks for pointing that out.
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11-08-2006, 03:54 PM

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11-08-2006, 03:57 PM

It's a very common traffic leak.

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11-08-2006, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Jarmusch

Would you bother emailing them? I wouldn't.

A simple 'Webmasters' link in small font at the bottom of the page shouldn't hurt anyone.

Sure I would or google for the affiliate program... but seriously how many traffic pulling affiliates find the programs they wish to promote, just from the tour links?

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11-08-2006, 04:10 PM

personally i'd rather have it link to my ref code, or not link at all then miss some referral sales because of it
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11-08-2006, 04:12 PM

strange why they would be doing that...

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11-08-2006, 04:13 PM

I can't see anything bad in having no affiliate codes in the webmaster referral links if the content (paysite tour or whatever) is for surfers. Some programs even use different codes for webmaster referral and surfers.

It's the same problem as the different signup tracking methods (URL, Cookie, Both): Alot of competition, promos push PPS higher and higher, some are already triple digit...you need to save this money somewhere and I prefer this honest approach, alternative would be shady methods like shaving. No, it doesn't mean that those who give full credit even for webmaster signing up via the surfer tour shave.

Webmaster referrals are overestimated anyway: Just have a look at the top player lists some programs publish. The top 10-20 will certainly signup via a friend who signs up via their code for a different program in exchange, the rest makes less than 1000$ a month, most even less than 100$ a month. That's the active webmasters, most people who signup under your account will never send a single sale. If you own a board like GFY, you make real money from referrals, if you are a big guy in the industry you'll stick together with others in your league and make money from referral exchanges. The rest is just pocket money for a meal...it's not like the hun will click to a paysite with your code and signup for the webmaster program, it won't happen. Maybe I exaggerate a bit, but to make webmaster referrals pay your car, it needs alot more than your code in the webmaster link on the tour page of a paysite.
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11-08-2006, 04:19 PM

you got a good point, but you never know who becomes the next big whale, i'd rather have a guy signup under me and make me $1 a month for a year, and then blow up huge and make me $500 a month... then not have them at all..
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11-08-2006, 04:21 PM

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11-08-2006, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Madrox

you got a good point, but you never know who becomes the next big whale, i'd rather have a guy signup under me and make me $1 a month for a year, and then blow up huge and make me $500 a month... then not have them at all..

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11-08-2006, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Jace

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Do affiliates get credit for these links at the bottom?

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11-08-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies

Do affiliates get credit for these links at the bottom?

http://www.brookesdvds.com/
http://www.365mobilesolutions.com/brooke/

ew, wow, those shouldn't even be on an affiliate tour
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11-08-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies

Do affiliates get credit for these links at the bottom?

http://www.brookesdvds.com/
http://www.365mobilesolutions.com/brooke/

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11-08-2006, 05:40 PM

damn traffic leaks

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11-08-2006, 05:46 PM

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11-08-2006, 05:48 PM

traffic leaks suck no matter if it's a webmaster link or a surfer link, the aff id should be passed

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11-08-2006, 05:52 PM

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11-08-2006, 05:55 PM

It makes you wonder how many people actually get those webmaster payouts

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11-08-2006, 05:56 PM

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11-08-2006, 06:31 PM

I had a sponsor ask me to review their sites. After seeing all the traffic leaks I declined. He didn't understand the term "traffic leak" His response after a few e mails was.

"I have to link to them and send them some return sales."
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11-08-2006, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Madrox

i notice on a few sites after you click through, with your ref code, you goto the bottom and view the "webmasters make $$$" link at the bottom, no ref code...

is it because their trying to sneak webmasters that view that site from your code from you and hope you don't know? or whats going on? why not just use the same coding for the rest on there, and give webmasters credit for the other webmasters who signup to your program after clicking a link in a page that has your code on it...

HAHAHA That brings back some recent memories for me. ROFL

We pay in many ways to get traffic to those sites, we should get the referral for webmaster signups. I don't actively recruit for any program, I don't like extra competition if it doesn't HAVE to be there. I've seen someone say before "competition comes naturally, I don't recruit it" and that's the way I see it too.

Except for programs or sites I looked for by name, all the porn programs I've joined in the last two years was through tours I liked for sites I had never seen before. I have never joined any program, porn or mainstream, from a webmaster resource link. Maybe I'm in the minority, I don't know?

I surf a ton of sites every day in several areas and when I come across a program I've never seen or site I really like, I always for a webmaster/affiliate link. If I like what I see and read in my search for it, I sign up from there, or I just move on without signing up.

I think from now on I will email the owner of the site I used to join the affiliate program and ask them if they got properly credited with the referral for my signup. If they didn't, they can raise hell with the program themselves. :D

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11-08-2006, 07:19 PM

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11-08-2006, 07:20 PM

Most sponsors dont give you webmaster referral credit for surfers (or potential webmasters) that sign up through your paysite affiliates links, simply because that is the industry standard. Sponsors save money by not crediting webmasters with those referrals, and webmasters dont seem to complain much about it.

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11-08-2006, 07:24 PM

Several times I noted in this thread people questioned the income of referrals, pocket change, what the fuck ever.

It has become a very common and almost everybody uses it form of shaving, fucking over referrals that is. It is small change, its common, what does it really matter? I would like to literally fuck each of you who say this in the ass with a horse and yes I literally mean the whole fucking horse.

People started not paying on referrals if you did not personally send surfer traffic, then eventually joins. Later they would pull additional shit to dwindle it even more, maybe switch from percentage to flat rate then flip again and eventually loose you. Later they started switching to other billing methods and again forgetting to track who refereed who.

Honestly a big fuck you! My referral income that I started to build back in the mid 90's and kept up until recently started as a few bucks, grew to four figures a week and due to the fucking off of programs dropping like a damn rock.

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11-08-2006, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by SomeCreep

Most sponsors dont give you webmaster referral credit for surfers (or potential webmasters) that sign up through your paysite affiliates links, simply because that is the industry standard. Sponsors save money by not crediting webmasters with those referrals, and webmasters dont seem to complain much about it.

Yeah, I only knew of one that ever did it but they stopped.

It would be cool if more did do it. After all, would the webmaster have found their program if you were not promoting it?

I've joined quite a few programs after surfing a TGP and seeing a hosted gallery that I thought would convert for me. In fact that might be the way I've joined most programs.

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11-08-2006, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by BB-Rick

Nope, not ALL NATS sites, we've been running NATS now for almost 2 years, and our webmaster referrals go to the affiliate site, not to our paysites.
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11-08-2006, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Kimo

damn traffic leaks

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11-08-2006, 09:14 PM

No comment from mayors money?
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11-08-2006, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Several times I noted in this thread people questioned the income of referrals, pocket change, what the fuck ever.

It has become a very common and almost everybody uses it form of shaving, fucking over referrals that is. It is small change, its common, what does it really matter? I would like to literally fuck each of you who say this in the ass with a horse and yes I literally mean the whole fucking horse.

People started not paying on referrals if you did not personally send surfer traffic, then eventually joins. Later they would pull additional shit to dwindle it even more, maybe switch from percentage to flat rate then flip again and eventually loose you. Later they started switching to other billing methods and again forgetting to track who refereed who.

Honestly a big fuck you! My referral income that I started to build back in the mid 90's and kept up until recently started as a few bucks, grew to four figures a week and due to the fucking off of programs dropping like a damn rock.

damn that sucks man, i hate traffic leaks, maybe i'll just download all hosted galleries and add my own ref link to those and host them myself from now on...

i know i surf hosted galleries alot and find new sponsors, i would rather signup for a program under another webmaster then under no one at all... the only way i will signup without a ref code is if the person who referred me is someone i don't like, but still i try to find someone else who has that code and use theirs
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11-08-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by BB-Rick

Nope, not ALL NATS sites, we've been running NATS now for almost 2 years, and our webmaster referrals go to the affiliate site, not to our paysites.
http://www.methodcash.com/track/Mzo2OjM/

your program is the exact same way...

i went to rabbitreviews.com clicked their links to one of your tours
http://www.allasians.com/v2/?nats=ra...5-1:AA,0,0,0,0

and if ya check the bottom, oh look

$$$ Webmasters $$$ is linked to methodcash WITHOUT a ref code for rabbitreviews in it...

also you have unnecessary traffic leaks on your tours

your big button:

linking to servers.pie.us is not needed, surfers looking to buy porn don't care where the porn is hosted at, you're just giving another reason for my visitors to leave your site without signing up like i want them too...

before you come in here claiming to not do that shit, make DAMN sure you don't

you just lied to us, and that is now making ME not want to signup for your program, or even suggest it to others, good job
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11-08-2006, 09:29 PM

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11-08-2006, 10:17 PM

Steve has a pretty big traffic leak too. Go to Jordan Capri tour page and then click "Super Store" down at the bottom.

Links to all kinds of Pill, Anti Spyware, Clothing, Software, VOD, Cams etc etc
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11-08-2006, 10:28 PM

Love the traffic leaks here too at Kelly Madison

http://www.kellymadison.com/tour/mai...adison,0,0,0,0

Kelly Store, Friends, Top 100 and I really love the counter at the bottom.
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11-08-2006, 10:33 PM

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11-08-2006, 10:36 PM

Sammy 4 u

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Telling DVDS from tour. Didn't see a link code there
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11-08-2006, 10:38 PM

Scoreland ver bottom

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