1 minute clips if they are straight up fucking. Don't want to see 45 seconds of picking a chick up off the street and 15 seconds of talking off her clothes...
2 and 3 min clips with the same criteria just gets you listed faster.
1 minute clips if they are straight up fucking. Don't want to see 45 seconds of picking a chick up off the street and 15 seconds of talking off her clothes...
2 and 3 min clips with the same criteria just gets you listed faster.
Thanks!
What site or sites does this relate to? Thanks again
we prefer em as long as possible, on our newest project we will allow sponsor to upload movies as long as they are 5minute+ on these movies they will get enough advertising to make it worth their while.
It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.
The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.
Last edited by Barefootsies; 08-19-2009, 01:27 PM.
It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.
The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.
Not getting into all the details of where I get my tube traffic but I will say, tube traffic sucks. Should get back to my Blogs...
It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.
The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.
I think 2-5 mins are fine, however ive seen clips 1 min that kick ass. Also ive seen some 3 mins that suck, and 7 mins that are awesome. I prefer at least 5 mins of tease fyc does good with that. Bangbros does the best 1 min trailers i think. If its 2 mins of talking with clothes on how do you sell that? Who wants to see whats next there? Im not disagreeing but i would like to know. thanks.
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Having some clips from all your niches are nice. I could find no ethnic clips on the hustler site. yet i found a full scene from a ethnic movie on a tube .
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Not getting into all the details of where I get my tube traffic but I will say, tube traffic sucks. Should get back to my Blogs...
Some stats from a few sponsors
1:10,047
1:6970
I would expect that blogs in the same niches and the same sponsors would see similar ratios
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Not getting into all the details of where I get my tube traffic but I will say, tube traffic sucks. Should get back to my Blogs...
Some stats from a few sponsors
1:10,047
1:6970
I only use 30-45 second scenes, 2 years now, convert nicely. I also cut them to never give away too much so that people can 'pop' a nut. People still sign up for 29.95 memberships.
It is no wonder a lot of people simply can't sell anything.
It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.
The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.
It all depends, before I left adult my site was doing 3-5 minute videos because they converted better than 1-2 min videos.
If you really wanna have a challenge, sell them on just pictures ;)
...I will agree though with people who mentioned this above, after launching 3 legal tube sites I see now just how shitty tube traffic is for sales and ratios. Seriously, how the hell does anyone make money with tube sites? I guess all from advertising based on amount of traffic.
I will agree though with people who mentioned this above, after launching 3 legal tube sites I see now just how shitty tube traffic is for sales and ratios. Seriously, how the hell does anyone make money with tube sites? .
Let me break it down for you...
1. 10,000 people trying to get into the tube market in past two years.
2. Using the exact same sponsor content.
3. Chasing the exact same traffic sources.
4. Marketing the exact same way and trying to out link and out spend each other.
4a. Be absolutely mystified why you can't sell a membership.
Once you find out you are never going to sell a membership. Cry in your beer.
*get a brain storm*
5. Up the minimum content length from 30-60 seconds to 20 minutes.
6. Market to mass free loaders. You want traffic, not sales.
7. Pre-sell mass traffic and the promise of sales and conversions to programs, and site owners who are desperate for traffic and have no clear understanding of the marketing and sales process to conversion. Much less the value of low volume, high quality, buying traffic.
8. Laugh all the way to the bank.
9. Rinse, wash, repeat monthly.
Last edited by Barefootsies; 08-19-2009, 06:10 PM.
1. 10,000 people trying to get into the tube market in past two years.
2. Using the exact same sponsor content.
3. Chasing the exact same traffic sources.
4. Marketing the exact same way and trying to out link and out spend each other.
4a. Be absolutely mystified why you can't sell a membership.
Once you find out you are never going to sell a membership. Cry in your beer.
*get a brain storm*
5. Up the minimum content length from 30-60 seconds to 20 minutes.
6. Market to mass free loaders. You want traffic, not sales.
7. Pre-sell mass traffic and the promise of sales and conversions to programs, and site owners who are desperate for traffic and have no clear understanding of the marketing and sales process to conversion. Much less the value of low volume, high quality, buying traffic.
8. Laugh all the way to the bank.
9. Rinse, wash, repeat monthly.
I only use 30-45 second scenes, 2 years now, convert nicely. I also cut them to never give away too much so that people can 'pop' a nut. People still sign up for 29.95 memberships.
It is no wonder a lot of people simply can't sell anything.
Yes, the main objective should always be 100% boner after they signed up. All this PR, SEO, tons of content... yeah, god for surfers, but not good for you if you do not understand basic human stimulation
...I will agree though with people who mentioned this above, after launching 3 legal tube sites I see now just how shitty tube traffic is for sales and ratios. Seriously, how the hell does anyone make money with tube sites? I guess all from advertising based on amount of traffic.
We are 1:800 with youngertube.com. Just like any brand new mgp the ratio starts out like crap and once it gets the traffic established and more bookmarkers the ratio drops. Its a lot of fine tuning to get it that way. Seems to get better then most of our mgps.
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1. 10,000 people trying to get into the tube market in past two years.
2. Using the exact same sponsor content.
3. Chasing the exact same traffic sources.
4. Marketing the exact same way and trying to out link and out spend each other.
4a. Be absolutely mystified why you can't sell a membership.
Once you find out you are never going to sell a membership. Cry in your beer.
*get a brain storm*
5. Up the minimum content length from 30-60 seconds to 20 minutes.
6. Market to mass free loaders. You want traffic, not sales.
7. Pre-sell mass traffic and the promise of sales and conversions to programs, and site owners who are desperate for traffic and have no clear understanding of the marketing and sales process to conversion. Much less the value of low volume, high quality, buying traffic.
8. Laugh all the way to the bank.
9. Rinse, wash, repeat monthly.
amen brother also big hollywood movies whose single budget for one movie is bigger than the combined incomes of this board. Use one minute trailers. Why? because it works its a tease, if they aint going to buy in one min. either : a you make shitty trailers or B: your content aint doing it for them. Only in adult would the thinking be 1 min isnt working lets do more not lets make the clip tighter more of a tease and shorter.
big hollywood movies whose single budget for one movie is bigger than the combined incomes of this board. Use one minute trailers. Why? because it works its a tease, if they aint going to buy in one min. either : a you make shitty trailers or B: your content aint doing it for them. Only in adult would the thinking be 1 min isnt working lets do more not lets make the clip tighter more of a tease and shorter.
or the fact that the majority of this industry does not know how to SELL in the first place....
the light bulb never seems to go off.
It's always the same old mantra. Give more away for free, or throw more traffic at complete shit. Not learn how to actually fucking sell your shit. Or about the sales process to conversion. Cut better teasers. Crop better photos. Nope. Free is the lazy man's answer.
Unbelievable.
Last edited by Barefootsies; 08-20-2009, 08:41 AM.
the affiliates that I talk to seem to want 2-3 minute clips. At least the tubes that are using the nubiles tube script seem to use mainly those also. We just upgraded our xml feed to have longer clips most of them are slightly over 3 minutes and I have had a few affiliates ask if I had anything shorter. But certainly I am not making any claim on the accuracy of my sample group.
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