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  • jmk
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    • Sep 2002
    • 5391

    #1

    Hey LEGAL TUBE site owners...

    ...what's the minimum length (time-wise) you require for clips?

    Please post here or email me, thanks!
  • Intrinsic
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    • Jun 2008
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    #2
    *cricket*

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    • XPays
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      #3
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      • Tulku
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        • Aug 2003
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        #4
        3 minutes

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        • XPays
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          #5
          what is important is that the tags and description are accurate - it is annoying as can be when they are not and you have to remove a video
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          • jmk
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            • Sep 2002
            • 5391

            #6
            Originally posted by XPays
            what is important is that the tags and description are accurate - it is annoying as can be when they are not and you have to remove a video
            Makes sense, yes

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            • seeandsee
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              #7
              Originally posted by XPays
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              • plyndrty
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                • Jul 2003
                • 1477

                #8
                1 minute clips if they are straight up fucking. Don't want to see 45 seconds of picking a chick up off the street and 15 seconds of talking off her clothes...

                2 and 3 min clips with the same criteria just gets you listed faster.
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                • plyndrty
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1477

                  #9
                  Originally posted by XPays
                  what is important is that the tags and description are accurate - it is annoying as can be when they are not and you have to remove a video

                  Second that
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                  • jmk
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 5391

                    #10
                    Originally posted by seeandsee
                    2 min and 15 sec
                    Thanks! What's your site if I may ask?

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                    • jmk
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                      • Sep 2002
                      • 5391

                      #11
                      Originally posted by plyndrty
                      1 minute clips if they are straight up fucking. Don't want to see 45 seconds of picking a chick up off the street and 15 seconds of talking off her clothes...

                      2 and 3 min clips with the same criteria just gets you listed faster.
                      Thanks!

                      What site or sites does this relate to? Thanks again

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                      • Tulku
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 672

                        #12
                        Originally posted by XPays
                        what is important is that the tags and description are accurate - it is annoying as can be when they are not and you have to remove a video
                        Absolutely Right ..

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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151

                          #13
                          Throwing the word "legal" in the header is really going to limit your responses.


                          .

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                          • JFK
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 67373

                            #14
                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                            Throwing the word "legal" in the header is really going to limit your responses.


                            .
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                            • plyndrty
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1477

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jmk
                              Thanks!

                              What site or sites does this relate to? Thanks again
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                              • boneless
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 3625

                                #16
                                we prefer em as long as possible, on our newest project we will allow sponsor to upload movies as long as they are 5minute+ on these movies they will get enough advertising to make it worth their while.
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                                • LeRoy
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                                  • Jul 2007
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jmk
                                  Thanks! What's your site if I may ask?
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                                  • Barefootsies
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                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Christ.

                                    It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.

                                    The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.

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                                    • plyndrty
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                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 1477

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                      Christ.

                                      It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.

                                      The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.

                                      Not getting into all the details of where I get my tube traffic but I will say, tube traffic sucks. Should get back to my Blogs...

                                      Some stats from a few sponsors
                                      1:10,047
                                      1:6970

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                                      • camchoice
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                                        • Dec 2003
                                        • 1267

                                        #20
                                        a minimum of 2/3 minutes
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                                        • 96ukssob
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                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 12991

                                          #21
                                          mine are between 30 seconds and 3 minutes, most are between 30 seconds and 1 minute.

                                          sales from my tgp site traffic is decent, as well as search traffic. traffic from other tubes is complete shit
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                                          • ThumbLord
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                                            • Jan 2009
                                            • 1932

                                            #22
                                            2 or 3 minutes will do.
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                                            • tonyparra
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                                              • Jul 2008
                                              • 4568

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                              Christ.

                                              It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.

                                              The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.

                                              I think 2-5 mins are fine, however ive seen clips 1 min that kick ass. Also ive seen some 3 mins that suck, and 7 mins that are awesome. I prefer at least 5 mins of tease fyc does good with that. Bangbros does the best 1 min trailers i think. If its 2 mins of talking with clothes on how do you sell that? Who wants to see whats next there? Im not disagreeing but i would like to know. thanks.

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                                              • tonyparra
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                                                • Jul 2008
                                                • 4568

                                                #24
                                                Also to op,

                                                Having some clips from all your niches are nice. I could find no ethnic clips on the hustler site. yet i found a full scene from a ethnic movie on a tube .

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                                                • d-null
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                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                  • 13724

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by plyndrty
                                                  Not getting into all the details of where I get my tube traffic but I will say, tube traffic sucks. Should get back to my Blogs...

                                                  Some stats from a few sponsors
                                                  1:10,047
                                                  1:6970

                                                  I would expect that blogs in the same niches and the same sponsors would see similar ratios

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                                                  • brassmonkey
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • jmk
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                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 5391

                                                      #27
                                                      Interesting variety of responses here, thanks everyone who posted so far.

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                                                      • Kristin Nubiles
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                                                        • May 2008
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 42635

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by plyndrty
                                                          Not getting into all the details of where I get my tube traffic but I will say, tube traffic sucks. Should get back to my Blogs...

                                                          Some stats from a few sponsors
                                                          1:10,047
                                                          1:6970

                                                          I only use 30-45 second scenes, 2 years now, convert nicely. I also cut them to never give away too much so that people can 'pop' a nut. People still sign up for 29.95 memberships.

                                                          It is no wonder a lot of people simply can't sell anything.
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                                                          • jmk
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                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 5391

                                                            #30
                                                            Any others? Thanks everyone!

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                                                            • xxxjay
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                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 13482

                                                              #31
                                                              the standard is about 2 minutes
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                                                              • Va2k
                                                                I’m still alive barley.
                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                • 10060

                                                                #32
                                                                For my new tube site fjtube.com 30 up to 60 min's if you're going to be given away the farm cum and give it away on my site lol make it legal ;)

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                                                                • sicone
                                                                  Retired
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 18453

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Kristin Nubiles
                                                                  1 minute - 3 minute hosted sponsor clips.


                                                                  This is what I use

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                                                                  • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                    Christ.

                                                                    It's no wonder some of you can't sell shit giving away 2-5 minute clips. I only need the right scene, angles, and 30 seconds to nut. Same can be said for most of the people I have asked.

                                                                    The job is to SELL THEM SOMETHING. Not get them off.

                                                                    It all depends, before I left adult my site was doing 3-5 minute videos because they converted better than 1-2 min videos.

                                                                    If you really wanna have a challenge, sell them on just pictures ;)

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                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 42635

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Killswitch
                                                                      If you really wanna have a challenge, sell them on just pictures
                                                                      There are some people on this board who still swear by pictures. That's their forte. Not mine.

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                                                                      • RayBonga
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                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                        • 12164

                                                                        #36
                                                                        normally 3mins is ideal. less only if the content is pretty good (i.e. not generic, intros, etc.)

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                                                                        • born2blog
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                                                                          • Sep 2006
                                                                          • 1801

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Kristin Nubiles
                                                                          1 minute - 3 minute hosted sponsor clips.
                                                                          that's what I prefer also

                                                                          ...I will agree though with people who mentioned this above, after launching 3 legal tube sites I see now just how shitty tube traffic is for sales and ratios. Seriously, how the hell does anyone make money with tube sites? I guess all from advertising based on amount of traffic.
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                                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 42635

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by born2blog
                                                                            I will agree though with people who mentioned this above, after launching 3 legal tube sites I see now just how shitty tube traffic is for sales and ratios. Seriously, how the hell does anyone make money with tube sites? .
                                                                            Let me break it down for you...

                                                                            1. 10,000 people trying to get into the tube market in past two years.
                                                                            2. Using the exact same sponsor content.
                                                                            3. Chasing the exact same traffic sources.
                                                                            4. Marketing the exact same way and trying to out link and out spend each other.
                                                                            4a. Be absolutely mystified why you can't sell a membership.

                                                                            Once you find out you are never going to sell a membership. Cry in your beer.

                                                                            *get a brain storm*

                                                                            5. Up the minimum content length from 30-60 seconds to 20 minutes.
                                                                            6. Market to mass free loaders. You want traffic, not sales.
                                                                            7. Pre-sell mass traffic and the promise of sales and conversions to programs, and site owners who are desperate for traffic and have no clear understanding of the marketing and sales process to conversion. Much less the value of low volume, high quality, buying traffic.

                                                                            8. Laugh all the way to the bank.
                                                                            9. Rinse, wash, repeat monthly.

                                                                            Last edited by Barefootsies; 08-19-2009, 06:10 PM.
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                                                                            • cosis
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 5292

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                              Let me break it down for you...

                                                                              1. 10,000 people trying to get into the tube market in past two years.
                                                                              2. Using the exact same sponsor content.
                                                                              3. Chasing the exact same traffic sources.
                                                                              4. Marketing the exact same way and trying to out link and out spend each other.
                                                                              4a. Be absolutely mystified why you can't sell a membership.

                                                                              Once you find out you are never going to sell a membership. Cry in your beer.

                                                                              *get a brain storm*

                                                                              5. Up the minimum content length from 30-60 seconds to 20 minutes.
                                                                              6. Market to mass free loaders. You want traffic, not sales.
                                                                              7. Pre-sell mass traffic and the promise of sales and conversions to programs, and site owners who are desperate for traffic and have no clear understanding of the marketing and sales process to conversion. Much less the value of low volume, high quality, buying traffic.

                                                                              8. Laugh all the way to the bank.
                                                                              9. Rinse, wash, repeat monthly.

                                                                              great idea

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                                                                              • Nautilus
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                                                                                • Sep 2002
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                                                                                #40
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                                                                                • hqxpics
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  2-3 minute are ok
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                                                                                  • Dirty Dane
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                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                    • 9491

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                    I only use 30-45 second scenes, 2 years now, convert nicely. I also cut them to never give away too much so that people can 'pop' a nut. People still sign up for 29.95 memberships.

                                                                                    It is no wonder a lot of people simply can't sell anything.
                                                                                    Yes, the main objective should always be 100% boner after they signed up. All this PR, SEO, tons of content... yeah, god for surfers, but not good for you if you do not understand basic human stimulation

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                                                                                    • Nubiles
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                      • 1496

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by born2blog
                                                                                      that's what I prefer also

                                                                                      ...I will agree though with people who mentioned this above, after launching 3 legal tube sites I see now just how shitty tube traffic is for sales and ratios. Seriously, how the hell does anyone make money with tube sites? I guess all from advertising based on amount of traffic.
                                                                                      We are 1:800 with youngertube.com. Just like any brand new mgp the ratio starts out like crap and once it gets the traffic established and more bookmarkers the ratio drops. Its a lot of fine tuning to get it that way. Seems to get better then most of our mgps.
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                                                                                      • tony299
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                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 57021

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                        Let me break it down for you...

                                                                                        1. 10,000 people trying to get into the tube market in past two years.
                                                                                        2. Using the exact same sponsor content.
                                                                                        3. Chasing the exact same traffic sources.
                                                                                        4. Marketing the exact same way and trying to out link and out spend each other.
                                                                                        4a. Be absolutely mystified why you can't sell a membership.

                                                                                        Once you find out you are never going to sell a membership. Cry in your beer.

                                                                                        *get a brain storm*

                                                                                        5. Up the minimum content length from 30-60 seconds to 20 minutes.
                                                                                        6. Market to mass free loaders. You want traffic, not sales.
                                                                                        7. Pre-sell mass traffic and the promise of sales and conversions to programs, and site owners who are desperate for traffic and have no clear understanding of the marketing and sales process to conversion. Much less the value of low volume, high quality, buying traffic.

                                                                                        8. Laugh all the way to the bank.
                                                                                        9. Rinse, wash, repeat monthly.

                                                                                        amen brother also big hollywood movies whose single budget for one movie is bigger than the combined incomes of this board. Use one minute trailers. Why? because it works its a tease, if they aint going to buy in one min. either : a you make shitty trailers or B: your content aint doing it for them. Only in adult would the thinking be 1 min isnt working lets do more not lets make the clip tighter more of a tease and shorter.

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                                                                                        • geirlur
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                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                          • 2025

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I like them to be 3 minutes and longer
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                                                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                                            • 42635

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            No matter how many times this is said....

                                                                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                            big hollywood movies whose single budget for one movie is bigger than the combined incomes of this board. Use one minute trailers. Why? because it works its a tease, if they aint going to buy in one min. either : a you make shitty trailers or B: your content aint doing it for them. Only in adult would the thinking be 1 min isnt working lets do more not lets make the clip tighter more of a tease and shorter.
                                                                                            or the fact that the majority of this industry does not know how to SELL in the first place....

                                                                                            the light bulb never seems to go off.

                                                                                            It's always the same old mantra. Give more away for free, or throw more traffic at complete shit. Not learn how to actually fucking sell your shit. Or about the sales process to conversion. Cut better teasers. Crop better photos. Nope. Free is the lazy man's answer.

                                                                                            Unbelievable.

                                                                                            Last edited by Barefootsies; 08-20-2009, 08:41 AM.
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                                                                                            • jmk
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 5391

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Thanks everyone who contributed here!

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                                                                                              • aniloscash
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                                                                                                • Oct 2008
                                                                                                • 1161

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                the affiliates that I talk to seem to want 2-3 minute clips. At least the tubes that are using the nubiles tube script seem to use mainly those also. We just upgraded our xml feed to have longer clips most of them are slightly over 3 minutes and I have had a few affiliates ask if I had anything shorter. But certainly I am not making any claim on the accuracy of my sample group.
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                                                                                                • tonyparra
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                                                                                                  • Jul 2008
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  All thats great if the 1 min clips are good. 90% of the programs make shitty clips man or all have the same content

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                                                                                                  • brassmonkey
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                                    the standard is about 2 minutes
                                                                                                    yep
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