The lessons that 11 years of working online taught me

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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #1

    The lessons that 11 years of working online taught me

    Trite bullshit below. Feel free to ignore it.

    1. Everything is possible if you want it.

    Before I got into this industry, it had seemed impossible to me that someone could make a living pretty much watching porn all day. A few years later, I was making a living doing just that.

    Whatever it is you enjoy doing, you can probably make a good living doing just that. Just be careful, because...


    2. The things you want rarely turn out to be what you imagine them to be.

    Before I entered this industry, spending hours a day watching porn seemed awesome to me. A few years in, it got boring. A few years after that, awful. Now, I've mostly moved out of it, and I'm planning to be completely out of this industry in a year or two.

    The best way to ruin something that you occasionally enjoy is to make it your job.


    3. In business, focus matters more than anything.

    Over the years, I've made thousands of sites. Some hugely successful, quite a few reasonably successful, and the vast majority complete failures. Virtually everything that failed, failed because of a lack of focus. On the other hand, the things that succeeded were all things that succeeded because I went after them with drive and energy - even if the idea behind them was mediocre.

    Success is built, not born.


    4. The most profitable ideas are often the most boring ones.

    There's more money in low-level marketing for big pharma than there is in the entire porn industry. A content-driven blog that reaches 200 industrial decision-makers a day is more valuable than a tube that reaches 200k porn surfers a day.


    5. Connections matter.

    A single dinner with a friend in a position to make decisions in a large company is more valuable than a thousand cold calls. A single recommendation from someone who is trusted and well-respected in a specific industry will get you more job opportunities than a decade of experience.


    6. Panta rhei.

    Everything changes constantly. Ignore that fact and you'll end up trying to sell typewriters to IBM.


    7. 1% of people make 99% of all things happen.

    You don't have to be among that 1% to be successful, but knowing them certainly helps. Leading is best, but if you can't, following the right people will still get you to the right place. Following the wrong ones will get you nowhere.


    And finally...

    Imagine winning $100 million. What would you do with your life? Once you were done buying toys, sitting on the beach and drinking cocktails, what are the challenges you would want to take up in life? Are they the same things you're doing now? If not - why?


    Like I said, trite bullshit. It's worked for me, though
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  • CYF
    Coupon Guru
    • Mar 2009
    • 10973

    #2
    There's some good advice in here
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    • WDG
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2009
      • 227

      #3
      Some wise words in there Libertine

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      • L-Pink
        working on my tan
        • Mar 2005
        • 39151

        #4
        Excellent

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        • Matyko
          PsyHead
          • Aug 2005
          • 8681

          #5
          Thanks for this post. Lot of wise thoughts
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          • beta-tester
            Rock 'n Roll Baby!
            • Sep 2004
            • 22562

            #6
            So true man... I've had the similar experience in my adult biz and it definitely works like that.

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            • Zarathustra
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2005
              • 1094

              #7
              I actually agreed on every single point, feels weird o_0

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              • DidierE
                Confirmed User
                • May 2007
                • 380

                #8
                Business post of the week (no, actually it's the best i've seen here all year).

                Cheers!

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                • Tube Ace
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4941

                  #9
                  good post.

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                  • natron
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 7458

                    #10
                    thanks

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                    • Pornwolf
                      Drunk and Unruly
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 22712

                      #11
                      That wasn't a waste of time at all. Good post and very true.
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                      • mopek1
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 3198

                        #12
                        Wow ... I wish we could have one thread like this everyday.

                        Thanks for posting. I didn't like what #5 and #6 had to say even though they were true. #5 meant that you need some luck ... #6 meant that once you are successful and comfortable, you can't sit back, you have to do more work, learn more and many times feel like you are starting over again which is always the hardest part.

                        Good stuff. - Can I take you to dinner? LOL

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                        • u-Bob
                          there's no $$$ in porn
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 33063

                          #13
                          good stuff.

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                          • The Duck
                            Adult Content Provider
                            • May 2005
                            • 18243

                            #14
                            Interesting to say the least. Thanks Libertine.
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                            • Libertine
                              sex dwarf
                              • May 2002
                              • 17860

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mopek1
                              Wow ... I wish we could have one thread like this everyday.

                              Thanks for posting. I didn't like what #5 and #6 had to say even though they were true. #5 meant that you need some luck ... #6 meant that once you are successful and comfortable, you can't sit back, you have to do more work, learn more and many times feel like you are starting over again which is always the hardest part.

                              Good stuff. - Can I take you to dinner? LOL
                              #5 has absolutely nothing to do with luck. Networking is a skill.

                              Take, for example, a close friend of mine, whom I've known for about 15 years.

                              She's always been intelligent and a decent student, but nothing exceptional. However, in her first year at a local college, despite her mediocre results her networking skills got her the references to get into one of the top 3 universities in the world.

                              She finished that, though with less-than-stellar grades. Nevertheless, she got several prestigious fellowships, including a recent one at the US Congress. Recently, she got invited to apply for a great political job which she's absolutely unqualified for.

                              Her entire career is based on exactly three things: she has superior networking skills, she's a good talker, and she goes after what she wants. More intelligent and knowledgeable people with better qualifications don't get the positions she does, simply because they're not as good at building the right connections.

                              And that's the way it works everywhere: by making sure you get to know the right people you make sure you get the right opportunities. No matter how intelligent and skilled you might be, if you don't get noticed, you don't get asked. Business, dating, politics - whatever you do, making contacts is essential.
                              Last edited by Libertine; 08-15-2009, 04:52 AM.
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                              • sysk
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 1005

                                #16
                                I would say that lack of focus is the most common problem
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                                • Hank_Heartland
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 3987

                                  #17
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                                  • quiet
                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 25115

                                    #18
                                    god, everyone is doing these posts now... hmm, mayble i'll do one.
                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                    • Libertine
                                      sex dwarf
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 17860

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by quiet
                                      god, everyone is doing these posts now... hmm, mayble i'll do one.
                                      We're older, the easy money is gone, many of us don't really need the money anymore, and the future of the industry looks neither particularly exciting nor bright. I suspect many of the people who've been in the industry for a decent amount of time have gotten out recently, are going to get out soon, or are considering getting out.

                                      I think it's only natural to look back on the past decade with a bit of nostalgia, and think of the things learned in that time.

                                      I'm curious to read your version, though
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                                      • Nicky
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 30071

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sysk
                                        I would say that lack of focus is the most common problem

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                                        • CaptainHowdy
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 94744

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sysk
                                          I would say that lack of focus is the most common problem
                                          I couldn't agree more... great read, Libertine !

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                                          • bronco67
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 29032

                                            #22
                                            I like that...

                                            Especially number 5. My income in the last few years has been solely based on 2 contacts I made about 12 years ago.

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                                            • woj
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 47882

                                              #23
                                              good read
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                                              • Agent 488
                                                Registered User
                                                • Feb 2006
                                                • 22511

                                                #24
                                                here's mine:

                                                never believe to what people post on a message board. most online personalities are full of lies, misinformation and bs.

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                                                • JamesK
                                                  hi
                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 16731

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                  here's mine:

                                                  never believe to what people post on a message board. most online personalities are full of lies, misinformation and bs.
                                                  Yep, that's one of the first things I learned when I started working online. People are full of shit.
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                                                  • Agent 488
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                    • 22511

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by JamesK
                                                    Yep, that's one of the first things I learned when I started working online. People are full of shit.
                                                    people are pretty much the opposite of what they appear/claim to be.

                                                    if they say they are a baller -they are most likely homeless.

                                                    if they say they are an expert on whatever - they most likely know nothing about what they talk about.

                                                    and most board personalities turn out to be thieves and losers.

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                                                    • DonovanTrent
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 968

                                                      #27
                                                      All very good points in that post, Libertine.
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                                                      • slapass
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 14625

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                        people are pretty much the opposite of what they appear/claim to be.

                                                        if they say they are a baller -they are most likely homeless.

                                                        if they say they are an expert on whatever - they most likely know nothing about what they talk about.

                                                        and most board personalities turn out to be thieves and losers.
                                                        That is amazing as I have done tons of business on this board and almost never had an issue. My experience is totally opposite of yours.

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                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 42635

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Libertine
                                                          Trite bullshit below. Feel free to ignore it.

                                                          1. Everything is possible if you want it.

                                                          Before I got into this industry, it had seemed impossible to me that someone could make a living pretty much watching porn all day. A few years later, I was making a living doing just that.

                                                          Whatever it is you enjoy doing, you can probably make a good living doing just that. Just be careful, because...


                                                          2. The things you want rarely turn out to be what you imagine them to be.

                                                          Before I entered this industry, spending hours a day watching porn seemed awesome to me. A few years in, it got boring. A few years after that, awful. Now, I've mostly moved out of it, and I'm planning to be completely out of this industry in a year or two.

                                                          The best way to ruin something that you occasionally enjoy is to make it your job.


                                                          3. In business, focus matters more than anything.

                                                          Over the years, I've made thousands of sites. Some hugely successful, quite a few reasonably successful, and the vast majority complete failures. Virtually everything that failed, failed because of a lack of focus. On the other hand, the things that succeeded were all things that succeeded because I went after them with drive and energy - even if the idea behind them was mediocre.

                                                          Success is built, not born.


                                                          4. The most profitable ideas are often the most boring ones.

                                                          There's more money in low-level marketing for big pharma than there is in the entire porn industry. A content-driven blog that reaches 200 industrial decision-makers a day is more valuable than a tube that reaches 200k porn surfers a day.


                                                          5. Connections matter.

                                                          A single dinner with a friend in a position to make decisions in a large company is more valuable than a thousand cold calls. A single recommendation from someone who is trusted and well-respected in a specific industry will get you more job opportunities than a decade of experience.


                                                          6. Panta rhei.

                                                          Everything changes constantly. Ignore that fact and you'll end up trying to sell typewriters to IBM.


                                                          7. 1% of people make 99% of all things happen.

                                                          You don't have to be among that 1% to be successful, but knowing them certainly helps. Leading is best, but if you can't, following the right people will still get you to the right place. Following the wrong ones will get you nowhere.


                                                          And finally...

                                                          Imagine winning $100 million. What would you do with your life? Once you were done buying toys, sitting on the beach and drinking cocktails, what are the challenges you would want to take up in life? Are they the same things you're doing now? If not - why?


                                                          Like I said, trite bullshit. It's worked for me, though
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                                                          • cherrylula
                                                            lol
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 15969

                                                            #30
                                                            all very true.

                                                            your friend sounds like she'd make a good politician.

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                                                            • BlackCrayon
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 19634

                                                              #31
                                                              i've learned that nothing is for certain and how you make money could change very much very fast. hell i've switched up the way i've done things at least 4-5 times in the 10 years i've been doing this. now porn is just more or less extra money and mainstream is where i make my real income. it could all change tomorrow though.
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                                                              • born2blog
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                                                                • Sep 2006
                                                                • 1801

                                                                #32
                                                                Great thread Libertine
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                                                                • seeandsee
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                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                  • 50945

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Imagine winning $100 million. What would you do with your life? Once you were done buying toys, sitting on the beach and drinking cocktails, what are the challenges you would want to take up in life? Are they the same things you're doing now? If not - why?

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                                                                  • dennisthemenace
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 2668

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Simple and brilliant if a person is wise enough to put their own bullshit down and just follow the proven roads.

                                                                    Well done.
                                                                    All the best to you

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                                                                    • andrej_NDC
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                      • 7760

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I agree with everything but one. I look at porn for 8 years and still love it. I was never bored of it, not for one second.

                                                                      And I would add one thing: Simple and good targetted marketing is the only real marketing.

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                                                                      • alias
                                                                        aliasx
                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 19010

                                                                        #36
                                                                        This thread should be required reading, it is actually rather insightful. Thank you for your perspective.
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                                                                        • Dcat
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                          • 1607

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Nice!

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                                                                          • CaptainHowdy
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 94744

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                            here's mine:

                                                                            never believe to what people post on a message board. most online personalities are full of lies, misinformation and bs.
                                                                            That's a no-brainer...

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                                                                            • d-null
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                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                              • 13724

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I like this thread Libertine, good food for thought in your points

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                                                                              • Brujah
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                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                • 22157

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Here's mine.

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                                                                                • Riffhard
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                                                                                  • Jul 2009
                                                                                  • 659

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Guys are guys, girls are guys, and children are the FBI.
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                                                                                  • qxm
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                    • 5970

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Riffhard
                                                                                    Guys are guys, girls are guys, and children are the FBI.
                                                                                    Spot on dude!

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                                                                                    • dready
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                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 5247

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Some great thoughts there. Thanks for posting.
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                                                                                      • swordfih
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                                        • 70

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Best read so far
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                                                                                        • HighEnergy
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                          • 806

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Excellent post Libertine.

                                                                                          kiddies take heed, those 2630 characters speak volumes.


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                                                                                          • pornjudge
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                                            • 2214

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sounds like you have been reading to much MLM ;)

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                                                                                            • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                              • 11190

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Great Post, I can relate.
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                                                                                              • brassmonkey
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                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                • 77397

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                dang thats a exhale
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                                                                                                • Elixir
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Sound pretty good !
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                                                                                                  • VeriSexy
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Makes me step back and ponder
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