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Old 08-14-2009, 12:07 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz View Post
every one of those jobs would have happened/existed without the piracy
history lesson mpaa wanted the vcr to be blocked at the border. If that would have happened all those jobs would have disappeared.
There would have been nothing to sell, nothing to deliver, nothing to repair.


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wtf ?!?!?! thats some serious fantasy stats right there
fact the only people making up stats are the MPAA, actual job stats, employment loss in the film industry is less then employment losses in other industries. The loses are based on what they would have hired if piracy didn't exist.

Those would be actual jobs lost. Because there was nothing to sell, repair or deliver.
Those were people who were hired to drive the trucks to deliver the vcr.
Remember back then vcr were a grand a piece. They were a big ticket item which only a small percentage of the people could afford.


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ummm - everyone was making money selling 'cassettes'. the problem was people who were PIRATING and selling - every other use was fine.
history lesson again at the time, the only people selling stuff on the cassettes were the porn industry. No movies no tv shows period.
The only other use was to tape shows.

yet the MPAA wanted to outlaw the vcr to protect their revenue and jobs (sound familar)


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wtf!?!?!?! sometimes i really wonder about your sanity



anyways - no one gives a fuck about the VCR 'technology' - no one gives a fuck about the TORRENT/CLOUD 'technology' - no one gives a fuck about the TUBE 'technology'

we ALL know they are ways to make cash

we are ALL concerned about how the THEIVES use it - and would like legislation making a way for us to kick their asses

we all want the THEIVES to be held accountable

NO ONE argues your defense of the 'technology' - we argue your stupid interpretation of fair use - which you don't seem to understand at all

doing a parody, using sampling, mashups, and all the rest are FINE - NO ONE argues that

we are PISSED at free global public distribution of complete un-edited, un-abridged works - these are NOT defended by fair use.

and that is why you are delusional

backup, access shifting, timeshifting, format shifting.

all create a complete un edited, un abridge copy of the work.

the network effect does not eliminate those fair use rights. claiming that it does holds back the technological advantages.

an infinite sized hard drive that records every single show available (swarm) and provides multiple nodes of redundancy so even complete failure of any one machine would not cause the data to be lost, would be the best VCR that could every exist.

the copyright holders refuse to provide the technology.
You want them to have the right to stop other people from filling that gap.

As long as you refuse to set the private tracker to fullfill that fair use right, it is all about denying the technology.
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