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  • CDSmith
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2001
    • 51460

    #51
    "You are well advised to drop it"

    Reads like a threat to me.

    I wonder what the consequences will be if you don't? :D
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #52
      Originally posted by studiocritic
      so, you really don't send any sales?

      i know a lot of people have accused you of this, but i didn't know that was really the case.

      hrmpf.
      I provide goods and services to adult and mainstream webmasters. I have my own program. The only time I have sent sales to others is when I dabbled with my blogs. It was for fun and experimentation. I may have made 5 blog entries about AFF, and one or two about SexSearch. Neither of them are programs that my bank account would notice if they disappeared today.

      For the most part, I push tangible products, and my own stuff, not other people's programs.

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      • DarkJedi
        No Refunds Issued.
        • Feb 2001
        • 28301

        #53
        Originally posted by jacklaidlaw
        This is not slander he is asking a question and it does not seem like he is getting a reply if aff had nothing to hide or cover up they would have joined in on this disscution
        Originally posted by will76
        I love how you are the ones who are stealing from everyone (your own affiliates and everyone else here) and yet you are still trying to spin this shit, and now you tell me I was advised to drop it?
        Originally posted by will76
        oh ok I get it, it is in the best interest for your affiliates to have their traffic stolen by you instead of your competition.
        and so on.

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        • jimthefiend
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2003
          • 18889

          #54
          Baddog resells 2nd rate hosting. Pretty simple.

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          • BlackCrayon
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2003
            • 19634

            #55
            Originally posted by baddog
            zango doesn't effect me. I have not paid any attention to the issue.

            I am an impartial observer.
            you don't think it effects you? maybe not directly but it effects your clients which could have an effect on you eventually when this biz becomes less and less profitable.
            you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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            • jimthefiend
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2003
              • 18889

              #56
              Originally posted by will76
              I love how you are the ones who are stealing from everyone (your own affiliates and everyone else here)
              You're a fucking idiot.

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              • tehHinjew
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2006
                • 5755

                #57
                i honeslty never knew how much drama there would be when i joined AFF lol

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                • fetishblog
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 5995

                  #58
                  Dating Gold FTW!#%

                  Fling.com doesn't steal your traffic and sales unlike some other dating companies. I promote them, and so should you!

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                  • will76
                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                    • May 2003
                    • 18037

                    #59
                    Originally posted by DarkJedi
                    i hope AFF sues the shit out of you for slander


                    that would be something. They sue me for saying the truth but they don't sue zango for infringing on their trademark.
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                    • Juicy D. Links
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 122992

                      #60

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                      • Theo
                        HAL 9000
                        • May 2001
                        • 34515

                        #61
                        this is a traffic and sales hijacking by AFF/cams.com/sexsearch.com

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                        • will76
                          Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                          • May 2003
                          • 18037

                          #62
                          Originally posted by jacklaidlaw
                          why not block access to aff through zango! This is just a guess but are aff sites not trademarks therefore you could disalow zango to use keywords like cams.com or aff
                          I mentioned this to Lars weeks ago. He said that it would be too expensive and be a waste of time to sue them but that he would pass it along to his legal staff. If this is the same guys who wrote their statement about zango then I don't have much faith in them. I would fire the person who wrote that letter. crap.

                          AFF knows they can sue 180solutions, i sent him Gator cases from a couple years ago where Gator was sued for the exact same thing and settled. It is an open shut case.

                          So the 100million dollar company does not want to spend a few dollars to protect their trademark. This tells me this is just another excuse, so if they keep giving all these excuses why they wont stop, apparently they don't want to stop.
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                          • will76
                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                            • May 2003
                            • 18037

                            #63
                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            "You are well advised to drop it"

                            Reads like a threat to me.

                            I wonder what the consequences will be if you don't? :D
                            /in walks baddog

                            apparently they have already started
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                            • will76
                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                              • May 2003
                              • 18037

                              #64
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              I provide goods and services to adult and mainstream webmasters. I have my own program. The only time I have sent sales to others is when I dabbled with my blogs. It was for fun and experimentation. I may have made 5 blog entries about AFF, and one or two about SexSearch. Neither of them are programs that my bank account would notice if they disappeared today.

                              For the most part, I push tangible products, and my own stuff, not other people's programs.
                              As more and more spyware infects computers, more and more sales will be lost to your customers. At some point, their profit will be eaten away to the point they go out of business. We are not close to that point yet as zango only takes about 1 - 2% of people's traffic but that is just them. They are gaining groud everyday. If this keeps up spyware could be taking 30 - 50% of your sales in the future. If you don't think this affects you, then you are a fool.

                              I don't understand how you have no biased opinions or affiliations here but yet you are 100% on the opposite side of the issue with this?
                              SO you think it doesn't affect you now, so you want to see the rest us of us get fucked then. I am sure your customers, present and future, are glad to hear that.
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                              • will76
                                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                • May 2003
                                • 18037

                                #65
                                Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                and so on.





                                Originally posted by LegendaryLars' Attorney

                                It has come to our attention that some affiliates are unhappy about some uncommon and unintended side effects of adware advertising ? in some instances the adware will scan a web page and pop up an ?in context? AdultFriendFinder ad in a browser window next to an affiliate?s ad for AdultFriendFinder in another browser window.

                                ......... to try to figure out ways to reduce the number of ?adware collisions?. .
                                Ok we call it stealling you guys call it " adware collisions" and "unintended side effects of adware advertising".

                                And according to Zango AFF screws their affiliates :



                                Originally posted by Zango's Email
                                The campaign was run by AdultFriendFinder Media. Will76 witnessed his cookie being overwritten by a cookie placed by the ad. .......In fact, when the potential conflict was brought to the attention of AdultFriendFinder and Zango (at about the same time), AdultFriendFinder stopped the campaigns in question and reconfigured them to avoid the potential of having a cookie overwritten or a home page targeted. In short, much ado about very little. .

                                Zango calls it "potential conflict" we call it stealing.

                                Did that clear it up for you Young Jedi.
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                                • Pleasurepays
                                  BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 11913

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  For the most part, I push tangible products, and my own stuff, not other people's programs.

                                  "if you dont care Zango, the terrorists win"
                                  - George Bush 2006

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                                  • QuaWee
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 5791

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by american pervert
                                    kinda like when ppl start fake drama threads for attention.....
                                    hush.....
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                                    • fris
                                      I have to go potty
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 55790

                                      #68
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                                      • fuzebox
                                        making it rain
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 22363

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                        I provide goods and services to adult and mainstream webmasters.
                                        There's 1999 dotcom VC fluff if I've ever heard it...

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                                        • Will67
                                          Registered User
                                          • Nov 2006
                                          • 23

                                          #70
                                          I would like to apologize to everyone , I am nothing but a ass that spends too much time worrying about other peoples business.

                                          I cant make sales so I look to find a excuse for it. There have been many install companies and I could easily have blamed them , but I am a twit so please forgive me. I must go now I have to start my shift at Burger King
                                          Did you know that ""adware"" is is stealing your traffic and your sales?
                                          Contact your sponsors to make sure they do not support this.
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                                          • DarkJedi
                                            No Refunds Issued.
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 28301

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by will76
                                            Ok we call it stealling you guys call it " adware collisions" and "unintended side effects of adware advertising".

                                            And according to Zango AFF screws their affiliates :



                                            Zango calls it "potential conflict" we call it stealing.

                                            Did that clear it up for you Young Jedi.

                                            Have fun explaining this in court room

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                                            • BradM
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 3397

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              I provide goods and services to adult and mainstream webmasters. I have my own program. The only time I have sent sales to others is when I dabbled with my blogs. It was for fun and experimentation. I may have made 5 blog entries about AFF, and one or two about SexSearch. Neither of them are programs that my bank account would notice if they disappeared today.

                                              For the most part, I push tangible products, and my own stuff, not other people's programs.
                                              So basically you do......... nothing? Sounds like a bunch of steam and bullshit to me.

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                                              • Varius
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 6890

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                I mentioned this to Lars weeks ago. He said that it would be too expensive and be a waste of time to sue them but that he would pass it along to his legal staff. If this is the same guys who wrote their statement about zango then I don't have much faith in them. I would fire the person who wrote that letter. crap.

                                                AFF knows they can sue 180solutions, i sent him Gator cases from a couple years ago where Gator was sued for the exact same thing and settled. It is an open shut case.

                                                So the 100million dollar company does not want to spend a few dollars to protect their trademark. This tells me this is just another excuse, so if they keep giving all these excuses why they wont stop, apparently they don't want to stop.
                                                Too expensive ? I don't think so...I'm quite sure they have more money than we do and we can handle doing it just fine.

                                                More likely, others who hold trademarks might just be waiting until someone does it first...to see what the result fo that is. I just hope everyone remembers when its all said and done who the FIRST was and don't all bandwagon hop
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                                                • jayeff
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 2944

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by jacklaidlaw
                                                  why not block access to aff through zango! This is just a guess but are aff sites not trademarks therefore you could disalow zango to use keywords like cams.com or aff
                                                  There are plenty of professional ways Lars could deal with this and other unethical areas of this industry. But every time such an issue arises, he chooses not to. Draw your own conclusions as to what this says about him.

                                                  I just wish that if this topic isn't going to be allowed to die, it would finally take on some focus and direction. The finger-pointing is getting a little old and achieved all it is going to achieve a while back.

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                                                  • RawAlex
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                    • 9465

                                                    #75
                                                    Jayeff, the answer given, way down deep, all decoded, all the froo-froo removed is:

                                                    "everyone else is doing it, so we are doing it too!".

                                                    It is a piss poor excuse.

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                                                    • will76
                                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 18037

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                      Have fun explaining this in court room

                                                      Just because you are too dumb to see that what I am saying has already been said by AFF and Zango themselves, doesn;t mean they are dumb to this fact. I am sure their attorney can see that what I am saying is not only fact but was admitted by both parties. They may not like the word I use "Stealing" and they may prefer to stick with "unavoidable collisions" .

                                                      When something is unavoidable that means they had no choice. AFF could have not participated in the adware buying then there would have been no collisions to avoid.

                                                      Let me explain it in terms that you can understand.

                                                      Someone says " I have to borrow something from you and I wont give it back". I say you are stealing. it's the same thing, they just like the way it sounds with their PR spin on it.
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                                                      • will76
                                                        Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 18037

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Varius
                                                        Too expensive ? I don't think so...I'm quite sure they have more money than we do and we can handle doing it just fine.

                                                        More likely, others who hold trademarks might just be waiting until someone does it first...to see what the result fo that is. I just hope everyone remembers when its all said and done who the FIRST was and don't all bandwagon hop
                                                        Awesome to hear. When a company that makes 100+ MILLION a year tells you it is too expensive to protect their trademark you know they are full of shit. That is what they have a team of attornies for. So it cost you a day's worth of profit to clear your name, do the right thing, and stop a company from infringing on your trademark..... too expensive. I guess when you are greedy you would rather be dirty and make a few dollars more and certainly wouldn't want to spend money unless you absolutly had too.

                                                        Keep us posted Various.

                                                        At the end of the day I think things will shake out right. The good companies will be seperated from the bad.
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                                                        • crockett
                                                          in a van by the river
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 76818

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          What a stupid thread title. Makes you sound really idiotic.
                                                          Who gives a shit what will76 looks like? Why attack the messenger? Attack the assholes who are stealing from their affiliates.
                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                          • SpeakEasy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 2681

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by nofx
                                                            AFF = all about greed and profit over people.

                                                            they dont give a shit what they do. as long as their bank accounts stay fat and the heat stays low. "fuck it" is their motto.
                                                            SaggyFace and Legendary Liar are scum in this biz, and are just helping to cause more bad exposure to the biz as a whole. They should both be put in jail and ALL assets ever earned siezed.
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                                                            • Tempest
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • May 2004
                                                              • 10217

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              zango doesn't effect me. I have not paid any attention to the issue.

                                                              I am an impartial observer.
                                                              Really? Has anyone tested gotwebhost or your other sites to see if any Zango ads are popping up? Only a matter of time.

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                                                              • llporter
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                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                • 3221

                                                                #81
                                                                keeping it at the top

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                                                                • DateDoc
                                                                  Outside looking in.
                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 14243

                                                                  #82
                                                                  bump....

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                                                                  • starpimps
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                                                                    • Sep 2006
                                                                    • 6954

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Jace
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                                                                    • BusterBunny
                                                                      perverted justice decoy
                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                      • 19291

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                      Are you threatening me?

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                                                                      • hydro
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 4216

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Hmm whatever happend to webmaster boxing? I think now would be a good time to get it going it would be really fun to watch and bid! Btw lets give props to zango for being the first to "force" advertisers to bid against each other for their own traffic, legalized racketeering at its best.

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                                                                        • MissMina
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 2478

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by GonZo
                                                                          Was Sagi forced too?
                                                                          LOLOL

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                                                                          • ajrocks
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Nov 2004
                                                                            • 4526

                                                                            #87
                                                                            If you want the Zango crap to go away people need to stop sending to sponsors that use it or allow its use. At that point programs will stop supporting it.
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                                                                            • Tryme
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 596

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by ajrocks
                                                                              If you want the Zango crap to go away people need to stop sending to sponsors that use it or allow its use. At that point programs will stop supporting it.
                                                                              you are a genious! too bad the sheep won't listen!

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                                                                              • Nubiles
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                • 1496

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                Are you threatening me?

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                                                                                • RFremont
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                                  • 621

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                  Have fun explaining this in court room


                                                                                  You should really refrain from expressing a legal opinion, not for any other reason than to - hopefully - not make a bigger fool of yourself.

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                                                                                  • RFremont
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Sep 2006
                                                                                    • 621

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                    There are plenty of professional ways Lars could deal with this and other unethical areas of this industry. But every time such an issue arises, he chooses not to. Draw your own conclusions as to what this says about him.

                                                                                    I just wish that if this topic isn't going to be allowed to die, it would finally take on some focus and direction. The finger-pointing is getting a little old and achieved all it is going to achieve a while back.
                                                                                    Although Lars's response was speaking from both sides of his mouth, at least aff did address the issue. Unlike the sexsearch rodents that continue to hide in their hole.

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