Any anti-vaccination nutters on this board?

I love how every statement of yours is backed by hard evidence but if someone provides contrary evidence it has no credibility.

As I have told you before, you can prove whatever you want with stats. Doesn't make it true.

You are talking about a very small part of the population coming in contact by an even smaller part of the population, having that person spit or cough in their face.

I think your odds of that happening are smaller than the vaccine itself killing or harming someone who was of good health.

I would hope the person with aids, getting chemo ect would take personal responsibility and take all precautions when there is an outbreak.

You've made me see the light, dude.

I'll go tell my professors in med school that they should stop relying on actual scientific studies, and should listen to the almighty baddog instead, who proclaims that studies and statistics are irrelevant and that anecdotal evidence is what truly matters.

Great idea. Let's go back to the dark ages, when everything was just so much better.

Some vaccinations are bad. Some are not tested enough. Some are good.

It depends on what the vaccination is for.

Some vaccines have done wonderful things.
Small pox for one (And it was manditory for all to get), Polio also is high on the list of miracle cures. (Still some people died when they got the shots!!!)
The vaccines they are comming out with today have to be tested and they test them on us, so they know the next time what they have to fix.
The new Swine Flu vaccine isn't proven safe, it is unknown whether it causes organ damage etc... at this time. Yet people are rushing to get it and it may save their lives (or not).

Life is a gamble any way it goes.

My 8 year old boy has all of the vaccines he's supposed to get for his age. (Required by GOV / I didn't want to shoot anybody)
But we did not give him the combined MMR. We searched high and low to get him each shot separately and at differnt times because we have seen the evidence that says that shot causes autism and there's a preponderance of evidence that it does/did. (They have changed the formula and it doesn't contain thimerosal anymore, but by law they didn't have to throw out the old bad batches. They were allowed to use them up and give them to kids.

The real problem with vaccinations is that if there is a pandemic there will not be enough of the vaccine in the US. It seems that the US only manufactures 20% if it's vaccines.

Lets goto extremes then. Ever heard of Bubble boy? Maybe we should rid the planet of any germs that way bubble boy can come out of his bubble. lmao. Just foolishness. If the have an immune system that weak they need to be in quarantine. Its not my job to patrol who might get sick by coming in contact with me. And are you saying that vaccines will keep germs that I came in contact with from someone else that are on my skin or clothes from infecting the person with the weak immune system? Pfft and you call me stupid. lol Vaccines stop the person from getting the illness not from spreading it. You don't have to have an illness to spread it, and a vaccine WILL NOT stop you from spreading it to someone that has a weak immune system. So how exactly does it protect those with weak immune systems.

And again I have to give up my rights so that someone incapable of fending off diseases can be safe. Utterly ridiculous.

I will not be getting a H1N1 vaccination. It's too new and of course there will be complications for many. No thanks.

The right wingers are correct in their refusal of taking vaccines.

Tough it will put at risk lifes of others, it will mainly be threatening theirs , making nature do its job of elimination. See nothing wrong with that

Ok show me the studies that show that the swine flu vaccine is safe and I will have no side effects happen 30 years down the road.

SF, it's interesting that you bring this up. My grandparents have owned numerous dogs, all of them have lived into their early twenties, and none of them have been anywhere near a vet.

Tinfoil Hat Time, or Peanut Butter and Jelly Time?...

WHO moves forward in secrecy to accomplish forced vaccination and population agenda

By Jane Burgermeister

The WHO has refused to release the Minutes of a key meeting of an advisory vaccine group ? packed with executives from Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi ? that recommended compulsory vaccinations in the USA, Europe and other countries against the artificial H1N1 ?swine flu? virus this autumn.

In an email this morning, a WHO spokesperson claimed there are no Minutes of the meeting that took place on July 7th in which guidelines on the need for worldwide vaccinations that WH0 adopted this Monday were formulated and in which Baxter and other pharma executives participated.

Under the International Health Regulations, WHO guidelines have a binding character on all of WHO?s 194 signatory countries in the event of a pandemic emergency of the kind anticipated this autumn when the second more lethal wave of the H1N1 virus ? which is bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus ? emerges.

In short: WHO has the authority to force everyone in those 194 countries to take a vaccine this fall at gunpoint, impose quarantines and restrict travel.

There is verifiable, clear and unambiguous proof that WHO supplied the live bird flu virus to Baxter?s subsidiary in Austria, which was used by Baxter to manufacture 72 kilos of vaccine material in Febuary.

Baxter subsequently sent this material out to 16 labs in four countries under a false label designating the contaminated product as vaccine material, so nearly triggering a global pandemic.

Because Baxter must adhere to strict biosafety level 3 regulations when handling a dangerus virus such as the bird flu virus, the production and distribution of so much pandemic material cannot have been an accident but must have been done by Baxter with criminal intent.

The Austrian police are now investigating after I filed criminal charges in April.

It is increasingly clear that WHO and Baxter are just elements in a much bigger criminal organisation that is moving forward in a synchronised and coordinated way to fulfil the ?elite? agenda of global population reduction in the coming months and years while putting in place a global government of which WHO will be an arm.

WHO, a UN agency, appears to play a key role in coordinating the activities of labs, vaccine companies and governments to achieve the goal of population reduction and political and economic take over of North America and Europe:

- First, WHO gives funds, support and cover to labs such as the CDC to bioprospect for pathogens, bioengineer them to make them more deadly, and also patent them.

- Second, WHO gives those same deadly bioengineered pathogens to companies such as Baxter in Austria, so that Baxter could use those viruses to deliberately, systematically contaminate vaccine material. If the contamination of the 72 kilos had not been detection on time by a lab technician in the Czech Republic, millions of people would have caught the ?bird flu? from the injections.

- Third, in the event of a pandemic, WHO orders a compulsory vaccines for all 194 countries, following ?recommendations? by an advisory vaccine group on which executives of Baxter also sit.

- Fourth, WHO awards Baxter, Novartis, Sanofi and other companies lucrative contracts to supply those vaccines.

Furthermore, WHO acquires new global authority on an unseen scale in the event of a pandemic.

Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.

If the Model Emergency Health Powers Act is implemented on the instructions of WHI, it will be a criminal offence for Americans to refuse the vaccine. Police are allowed to use deadly force against ?criminal? suspects.

Through their control of these special pandemic crisis committees with the power to enact legislation to be set up most countries, the WHO, UN and EU become the de facto government of a large part of the world.

Mass murder and death will also bring economic collapse and disruption, starvation and wars ? and these events will lead to a further population reduction.

To sum up: WHO helps create, distribute and then release the deadly pandemic virus, and this pandemic virus allows WHO to assume control of governments in North America and Europe and also order forced vaccination on populations by the very same companies that have distributed and released the deadly viruses in the first place and all under under the pretext of protecting populations from a pandemic they have created.

The corporate mainstream media owned by the same ?elite? group which funds WHO is systematically concealing from the general public the nature of the real danger of these H1N1 jabs by withholding from them key information concerning the interrelated activities of this group of organisations for their mutual profit.

As a result, most people still believe that the H1N1 virus is a natural swine flu when even WHO has officially dropped the term ?swine? in tactic acknowledgement of its artificial origin.

Most people still believe the vaccine companies can deliver a cure when the vaccine companies are preparing a lethal series of shots containg live attenuated virus, toxic metals and other poisons.

The two-dose H1N1 shots are designed to disable the immune system and then load that system with a live virus in a process that mirrors the one described in two of WHO?s 1972 memoranda where the technical means for turning vaccines into killers is outlined.

The Strecker Memorandum also reveals that WHO has been actively searching for ways to weaken the immune system.

The best protection against the H1N1 virus that has now been released and that will inevtiably become more lethal as it mutates in autumn is colloidal silver and also vitamins to strengthen the immune system, face masks and other such measures.

However, none of the governments in North America or Europe have stocked up on colloidal silver or announced sensible health measures to contain the coming lethal wave.

Instead, there are growing signs, they will use the panic to terrify people into taking the toxic vaccines which are sure to cause injury or damage because of the presence of heavy metals alone.

This mass vaccination will moreover alllow ever more lethal strains to emerge and also provide a cover for a release of bird flu virus or other pathogens.

This is why steps need to be taken now to stop the mass vaccinations anticipated in autumn by taking legal action to block the distribution of vaccines and/or laws allowing govenrments to force people to take vaccinations.

An investigation into this international corporate crime syndicate has to be conducted in every country because it has its tentacles in every country, and to try to initiate this in the USA, I filed charges with the FBI against WHO and the UN among other defendants in June. I included President Obama among the defendants because I believe the time has come to identify and isolate the core members of this international corporate criminal group which has annexed high government office in the USA, and put them in prison once and for all, and there are reports that Obama has direct financial links with Baxter that need to be investigated by law enforcement.

There is evidence the Austrian Health Minister and other officials have been helping Baxter to cover its tracks.

Also, there is clear evidence that elements of the Austrian media are involved in actively spreading lies and misinformation to lull people into a false sense of security concerning Baxter?s manufacture and distribution of pandemic material in Austria this February.

Vital is for individuals and local authorities need to take effective measures to protect against the coming lethal wave of the H1N1 virus to minimise its impact.

To find to out about the charges I have filed so far in German and English in Austria also with the FBI, please check the wakenews website.
http://wakenews.net/html/jane_burgermeister.html

You didn't shoot them?

Bit diff from required in order to goto school, vs forced by law with no choice. I had the choice of doing home schooling. Most all of the vaccines required for school have been in use over 20 years or more and shown mostly to be safe.

Yup the whole dog vaccine thing is a nice racket. They get paid to inject them, then get paid to put down and dispose of them. Sad really. Ok off to shoot a wedding enjoy the vaccine cocktails while I am gone.. lol

Yeah vaccination is bad

Who wouldn't want to see a few hundred thousand polio kids walking around

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