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  • Cassie
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 3139

    #101
    Originally posted by BoyAlley


    Those 2 ultra conservative bigoted asshats he appointed to the Supreme Court will be what prevents my partner and I from ever being able to get married.


    you could always move to jersey. it's legal here.
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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089

      #102
      Originally posted by Cassie
      you could always move to jersey. it's legal here.
      He would rather blame Bush and the Supreme Court.

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      • BoyAlley
        So Fucking Gay
        • Nov 2004
        • 19714

        #103
        Originally posted by The Ghost
        Boy Alley, do you have a DVD wholesaler for your products?
        No we don't do DVD.

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        • OG LennyT
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          • Jun 2003
          • 14345

          #104
          I predict this threads going to get real nasty on page 4.
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          • BoyAlley
            So Fucking Gay
            • Nov 2004
            • 19714

            #105
            Originally posted by Cassie
            you could always move to jersey. it's legal here.
            Unfortunately even if it's legal in New Jersey, or Massachusetts, the marriages aren't recognized on the federal level, and become null and void if you move to a different state.

            Which means none of the over 1,500 protections that marriage provides a couple on the federal level, apply to married gay couples.

            Again, an equal protections issue.

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            • Cassie
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 3139

              #106
              Originally posted by BoyAlley
              Unfortunately even if it's legal in New Jersey, or Massachusetts, the marriages aren't recognized on the federal level, and become null and void if you move to a different state.

              Which means none of the over 1,500 protections that marriage provides a couple on the federal level, apply to married gay couples.

              Again, an equal protections issue.

              first let me say that i am all for people who want to get married whether it be same sex or opposite sex. if you feel you can put up with someone the rest of your life, go for it.

              with that being said, i would think that if more people moved to states that recognized same sex marriages (yes i know that can be a bit difficult on a small scale to up root your life but look at the bigger picture) this would eventually be pushed on a federal level (i dare say that even states who refuse to recognize same sex marriages would eventually have to change their views). i mean in the scope of things, something as grand as this should be pushed on a state level first imo.

              maybe my way of thinking is too idealistic.
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              • baddog
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 107089

                #107
                Originally posted by BoyAlley
                Unfortunately even if it's legal in New Jersey, or Massachusetts, the marriages aren't recognized on the federal level, and become null and void if you move to a different state.

                Which means none of the over 1,500 protections that marriage provides a couple on the federal level, apply to married gay couples.

                Again, an equal protections issue.
                So, how about explaining your stance on domestic partnership laws that give same sex partnerships the same basic benefits enjoyed(?) by married couples?

                Why is it that gays can enjoy these benefits, but bvecause I am a "breeder" I have to actually marry the chick to reap the benefits?

                What is equal about that?

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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #108
                  Originally posted by Cassie

                  maybe my way of thinking is too idealistic.
                  I don't know if idealistic is the right word, but it sure is funny as hell.

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                  • BoyAlley
                    So Fucking Gay
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 19714

                    #109
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    So, how about explaining your stance on domestic partnership laws that give same sex partnerships the same basic benefits enjoyed(?) by married couples?

                    Why is it that gays can enjoy these benefits, but bvecause I am a "breeder" I have to actually marry the chick to reap the benefits?

                    What is equal about that?
                    Domestic Partnership laws provide NO protections on the federal level.

                    States that have domestic partnership laws that do provide protections at the state level, also enforce legal obligations on the couple similar to those of marriage at the state level. Dissolving a registered domestic partnership is a process very similar to "divorce" on the state level.

                    That being said, I'm certainly not going to try and defend domestic partnership laws, nor would the vast majority of gays. We're not the ones pushing for them, and we're not the ones coming up with them.

                    They're a product of legislators trying to create a "separate but equal" system of law not seen in this country since the times of segregation.

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #110
                      Originally posted by BoyAlley
                      Domestic Partnership laws provide NO protections on the federal level.

                      States that have domestic partnership laws that do provide protections at the state level, also enforce legal obligations on the couple similar to those of marriage at the state level. Dissolving a registered domestic partnership is a process very similar to "divorce" on the state level.

                      That being said, I'm certainly not going to try and defend domestic partnership laws, nor would the vast majority of gays. We're not the ones pushing for them, and we're not the ones coming up with them.

                      They're a product of legislators trying to create a "separate but equal" system of law not seen in this country since the times of segregation.
                      I guess you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that on the federal level the people of the US are not interested in same sex marriages.

                      There is always Canada.

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                      • BoyAlley
                        So Fucking Gay
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 19714

                        #111
                        Originally posted by baddog
                        I guess you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that on the federal level the people of the US are not interested in same sex marriages.

                        There is always Canada.
                        Why do you keep trying to get me to move to Canada? The "if you don't like it leave" attitude is a pretty damn shitty one.

                        I'm a citizen of the United States, and I love this country. When I see something that's NOT RIGHT, be it bans on gay marriage, federal money being banned from stem cell research, the death of habeas corpus, torture, the war in Iraq, or any of the other fucked up things going on now, I don't "cut and run" to steal a line from the Supreme Czar Bush, I work to CHANGE THINGS.

                        I'm glad more people don't think like you. If everyone in this country just up and fled when they saw something they didn't feel was right, we as a nation probably wouldn't even exist anymore.

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                        • Pleasurepays
                          BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 11913

                          #112
                          Originally posted by BoyAlley
                          That's stupid logic. That's like saying the blacks weren't right to hate the segregationists or the jews weren't right to hate the nazis
                          when you start hating, you lose your audience. blacks didn't create change by hating. you can't hate others for their supposed hate and expect anyone to listen to you. thats makes as much sense as being in an insane asylum and tryng to eat the most paint chips to call attention to the fact that your not crazy... meanwhile the others are just upping your meds to protect you from yourself.

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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089

                            #113
                            Originally posted by BoyAlley
                            Why do you keep trying to get me to move to Canada? The "if you don't like it leave" attitude is a pretty damn shitty one.

                            I'm a citizen of the United States, and I love this country. When I see something that's NOT RIGHT, be it bans on gay marriage, federal money being banned from stem cell research, the death of habeas corpus, torture, the war in Iraq, or any of the other fucked up things going on now, I don't "cut and run" to steal a line from the Supreme Czar Bush, I work to CHANGE THINGS.

                            I'm glad more people don't think like you. If everyone in this country just up and fled when they saw something they didn't feel was right, we as a nation probably wouldn't even exist anymore.
                            I am pretty sure I have already tried suggesting the "if you don't like the laws, work on getting them changed" approach, but you didn't seem too receptive to that either.

                            Just an observation.

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                            • wizhard
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 579

                              #114
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              The Catholic Church has deep pockets, so they make a better target, that is all.
                              I would say it's more down to their hypocrisy
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                              • uno
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 18450

                                #115
                                Originally posted by BoyAlley

                                Those 2 ultra conservative bigoted asshats he appointed to the Supreme Court will be what prevents my partner and I from ever being able to get married.
                                Come to Joisey or Mass.
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