No offense taken it was an insightfrul post.
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Not for nothing but you have to consider we are dealing with a new generation of internet surfers. The same people who made the traditional pay sites a big deal are not actually the same people who will still open their wallets. Times are changing and I agree a new model is needed. But it sounds like what you suggest is more of the same.
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Yes it's obvious that after 10 or more years of selling porn to porn buyers on the Net we got it so wrong we've been kicked in the balls by Tube sites. When I listen to all the experts who made millions I think of how good they really were to get us here.
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And it just might work, but if your positive its the way to go give it a shot. If you succeed you wont have to post threads everyone will just copy you. Its the nature of the beast we call the industry.
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Agreed, will give it a shot myself and see how it works. I now have the CMS to handle it, already doing live cam and know it works and the dating site guy is talking to me. He wants to see more of the industry respond to make it worth his while. You're right about members areas being wrong a lot of buyers and to beat Tubes we need a lot of sites to take up the format.
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And I mean this with no disrespect Paul, I know you have been in the trenches for a long time. But you have to give some thought to the generational gap. It may sound lame but its going to be a tough sell to push a freshly minted 18 year old with a credit card the same smut his father paid for back when it was a novelty.
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No disrespect taken.
I'm 59 this August and yes I think like a man in his 50s. I'll take selling to guys in my age group happily. The teen niche is big wig 40+ males. I leave the 18 year olds to sell to 18 year olds. The only thing I will say is do you see any 18-25 year olds coming up with ideas and solutions to the problems we face today?
Maybe they need more experience.
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So in a nutshell i agree and disagree. As far as a solution you may hate me for it but i see the tube for pay model as being a viable alternative.
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Opening a Tube site is always a fall back position. Get rid of the affiliates as running a Tube and an affiliate program is a conflict of interest. Buy traffic to feed the site with and turn it into a tube site, selling to dating sites, paysites and webcams. Problem is it would screw the affiliates and content store customers and being a 58 year old I still have some honor.
Thankfully the stores and paysites are still doing well enough to make the above unlikely. After a year of Eva or I being unable to work we are still doing business and will continue to. When you listen to all the flamers you have to think
"If he's so clueless how did they survive this last year?" Even though so many wished I would go, we're still here. And so many others are not.
As for the future, I have at least 6 more weeks of treatment, which will be mid to end of September. Then I if I get the all clear will take a long holiday, Thailand is favorite, so back working November. Will resume shooting for the magazines as that's worth over $6,000 a year. Then the Net.
The ideas in this thread could be up and running by then if not it will get put up. Also got a few other ideas I have for sites. Might even finish off the $5 sites and might turn the contenty stores into a place the public can buy porn for personal use. Aleaysd thinking of ways to move ahead.