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  • american pervert
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    • Sep 2002
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    #1

    weed now taxed in cali!

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/...tax/index.html

    put that in your pipe and smoke it!
    I can resist everything except temptation
  • RyuLion
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    • V_RocKs
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      • Nov 2003
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      #3
      $18 per $1000 spent... that will feed a lot of people!

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      • Machete_
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        #4
        Where do those dealers get the weed? do they have large medical weed farms somewhere? Or do they buy it from the same people as the drugdealers?

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        • tranza
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          • Deesnuts
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            #6
            maybe i well

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            • DateDoc
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              • Feb 2005
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              #7
              The Oakland Tax is expected to raise the city $1 million annually. In these times that may not seem like a lot but every bit helps. There is talk the state may add a tax that would raise $1 billion annually. LA is considering a tax too and considering there are more marijuana dispensaries than there are Starbuck's or McDonald's in LA they should go for it. The dispensaries are happy to pay the tax as it legitimizes them and they will of course pass the tax on to the consumer.

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              • american pervert
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                • Sep 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by KrisH
                Where do those dealers get the weed? do they have large medical weed farms somewhere? Or do they buy it from the same people as the drugdealers?
                they get it from multiple sources. some people get their cards and a few of them will all live together and grow a bunch.. other people just grow mass amounts. i think some of the larger growers probably don't deal with street dealers b/c of the risk of getting caught.
                I can resist everything except temptation

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                • Rochard
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                  #9
                  As if no one saw this coming.

                  I have the solution to all of our problems. Making drugs legal isn't the answer. Keep them illegal, and instead of putting people in jail and teaching them how to toss the salad (which costs us money), fine them with stiff fines. Why pay to put them in an over crowded prison when we can turn them all into profit?
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                  • EscortBiz
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                    #10
                    7 years from now all drugs will be leagl, 20 years from now people wont be able to understand at least the younger population why the fuck gov made such a big deal, kinda like we dont understand why booze was illegal

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                    • Machete_
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rochard
                      As if no one saw this coming.

                      I have the solution to all of our problems. Making drugs legal isn't the answer. Keep them illegal, and instead of putting people in jail and teaching them how to toss the salad (which costs us money), fine them with stiff fines. Why pay to put them in an over crowded prison when we can turn them all into profit?
                      One of the reasons for the war against drugs, is the crime that follow in the slipstream when the drugusers need to generate capital to purchase drugs.

                      so do you think stiff fines will help that?

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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
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                        #12
                        Weed has always been taxed.

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                        • american pervert
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by baddog
                          Weed has always been taxed.
                          but now the gov't is getting a piece of the action, without having to arrest people. this is a step in the right direction.
                          I can resist everything except temptation

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                          • PastorSinAlot
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                            • Jun 2007
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                            #14
                            weed is a herb, why is it illegal any way. Tax it please, cause i dont want property taxes to go up in los angeles

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                            • baddog
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                              • Apr 2001
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by american pervert
                              but now the gov't is getting a piece of the action, without having to arrest people. this is a step in the right direction.
                              I am sorry, who was getting the taxes before then? And don't forget, it is still illegal under Federal law.

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                              • Horny Dude
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                                • May 2002
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                                #16
                                Cali should legalize weed and then tax it all. We wouldn't have a budget deficIt, Cali would be rolling in cash!

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                                • american pervert
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  I am sorry, who was getting the taxes before then? And don't forget, it is still illegal under Federal law.
                                  you said weed has always been taxed, and you are correct, by drug dealers. every time it changes hands, it get taxed.
                                  I can resist everything except temptation

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                                  • baddog
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                                    • Apr 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by american pervert
                                    you said weed has always been taxed, and you are correct, by drug dealers. every time it changes hands, it get taxed.
                                    Wrong. It is taxed at the store level. Some add it directly to the cost, others add it at the end just like if you were buying it at Macy's.

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                                    • Manowar
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                      7 years from now all drugs will be leagl, 20 years from now people wont be able to understand at least the younger population why the fuck gov made such a big deal, kinda like we dont understand why booze was illegal
                                      yep

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                                      • Vendzilla
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                                        #20
                                        the way it is now is just fine, making it totaly legal would create problems, for right now,, anyone over the age of 18 can get it, you can get a card for writers cramp.
                                        Just grow it and you don't have to pay any taxes
                                        Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                        think about that

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                                        • american pervert
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                          Wrong. It is taxed at the store level. Some add it directly to the cost, others add it at the end just like if you were buying it at Macy's.
                                          um, you're wrong.. it is not always taxed at the store level. and drug dealers add taxes. i have heard it straight from their mouths
                                          for example-

                                          "I paid $100 for this, and I gotta tax you $15"
                                          I can resist everything except temptation

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                                          • BobG
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                                            • Nov 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            Wrong. It is taxed at the store level. Some add it directly to the cost, others add it at the end just like if you were buying it at Macy's.
                                            Store prices are the same as street prices last time I checked.

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                                            • Ramos
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                                              • american pervert
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Ramos
                                                Ash Moon 4 Life.
                                                the 10 am line up!

                                                ' hey man, do you think you can give me a ride to the store'

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                                                • Deej
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by american pervert
                                                  um, you're wrong.. it is not always taxed at the store level. and drug dealers add taxes. i have heard it straight from their mouths
                                                  for example-

                                                  "I paid $100 for this, and I gotta tax you $15"
                                                  I wouldnt call that tax, thats is lingo, and its basically hand to hand profit...

                                                  Thats not the same thing as taxing

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                                                  • Ramos
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by american pervert
                                                    the 10 am line up!

                                                    ' hey man, do you think you can give me a ride to the store'

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                                                    • brassmonkey
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                                                      #27
                                                      glad 2 hear m0re taxes i d0nt sm0ke anym0re
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                                                      • american pervert
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Deej
                                                        I wouldnt call that tax, thats is lingo, and its basically hand to hand profit...

                                                        Thats not the same thing as taxing
                                                        there is more than that.. here are more taxes-
                                                        "make me leave my house tax"
                                                        "after midnight tax"
                                                        "before noon tax"
                                                        "wake me up tax"
                                                        "calling me non stop tax"
                                                        Last edited by american pervert; 07-22-2009, 09:45 AM.
                                                        I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by american pervert
                                                          there is more than that.. here are more taxes-
                                                          "make me leave my house tax"
                                                          "after midnight tax"
                                                          "before noon tax"
                                                          "wake up tax"
                                                          "call me non stop tax"
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                                                          • Deej
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by american pervert
                                                            there is more than that.. here are more taxes-
                                                            "make me leave my house tax"
                                                            "after midnight tax"
                                                            "before noon tax"
                                                            "wake me up tax"
                                                            "calling me non stop tax"
                                                            Thats a Dealer's problem...

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                                                            • baddog
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                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by american pervert
                                                              um, you're wrong.. it is not always taxed at the store level. and drug dealers add taxes. i have heard it straight from their mouths
                                                              for example-

                                                              "I paid $100 for this, and I gotta tax you $15"
                                                              Sorry, my bad. I thought you were trying to have a serious discussion.

                                                              Originally posted by BobG
                                                              Store prices are the same as street prices last time I checked.
                                                              If you say so. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

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                                                              • american pervert
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                Sorry, my bad. I thought you were trying to have a serious discussion.



                                                                If you say so. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
                                                                im sorry, i forgot you are the authority on everything.
                                                                I can resist everything except temptation

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                                                                • Rinaldo
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                                                                  • Sep 2003
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I never thought it'd happen.
                                                                  Wait until the Fed sues Cali for the money lol

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                                                                  • TyroneGoldberg
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                                                                    • Sep 2007
                                                                    • 1081

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by american pervert
                                                                    there is more than that.. here are more taxes-
                                                                    "make me leave my house tax"
                                                                    "after midnight tax"
                                                                    "before noon tax"
                                                                    "wake me up tax"
                                                                    "calling me non stop tax"
                                                                    lol

                                                                    i see this isn't your first rodeo

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                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • BobG
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                        If you say so. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
                                                                        I guess that would mean that if they have been paying taxes, which I believe they have, they're not passing it on to the consumer.

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                                                                        • kane
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                                                                          • Aug 2001
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                          As if no one saw this coming.

                                                                          I have the solution to all of our problems. Making drugs legal isn't the answer. Keep them illegal, and instead of putting people in jail and teaching them how to toss the salad (which costs us money), fine them with stiff fines. Why pay to put them in an over crowded prison when we can turn them all into profit?
                                                                          I think the potential problem you can get with that is that the cost of finding these people and fining them will be greater than the fines they will pay. I guess you could make the fines enormous, but then you would have judges throwing out the fines or reducing them. If some poor bastard got caught with a couple joints and hit with a 5K fine he could argue that the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

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                                                                          • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by KrisH
                                                                            Where do those dealers get the weed? do they have large medical weed farms somewhere? Or do they buy it from the same people as the drugdealers?
                                                                            there are huge weed farms in the central/northern part of california, entire villages turned into weed growers..
                                                                            hippies became millionaires.
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                                                                            • JustDaveXxx
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                              the way it is now is just fine, making it totaly legal would create problems, for right now,, anyone over the age of 18 can get it, you can get a card for writers cramp.
                                                                              Just grow it and you don't have to pay any taxes



                                                                              Its way harder to grow than most people think. At least good weed. You get that increased electric bill, equipment costs, pest problems, smell problems, etc. Then if you fuck something up right before harvest, you are stuck with shit or a bad smoke.


                                                                              You are way better off buying it at the shop and paying the tax.


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                                                                              • Steve OSS
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Saw that coming from a mile away...
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                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by BobG
                                                                                  I guess that would mean that if they have been paying taxes, which I believe they have, they're not passing it on to the consumer.
                                                                                  I can go to a co-op in the Valley and pay 60 an 1/8. I can go to a co-op at the beach and buy the same 1/8 at $54.67 + tax.

                                                                                  Price is still $60.

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                                                                                  • media
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Damn.. $350,000 in taxes.. that means he's making $19,444,444.44.00 annually in gross sales.. That falls just short of the federal law that says anyone making $20 million in one year on gross reciepts of marijuana sales can be put to death with the death penalty.. yowzas!
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                                                                                    • MaximX
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      That's good news for Cali.. I wish all states could do this

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                                                                                      • Darkland
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                        ...kinda like we dont understand why booze was illegal
                                                                                        That is an easy one and has tons of information to the subject if you pay attention to history.

                                                                                        1. Cars and everything else running on internal combustion engines can run on alcohol at least as well as they can run on gasoline. Indeed, engines were built back in 1870 that could run using either alcohol or gasoline.

                                                                                        2. That allowed the driver to switch the carburetor to run the engine on farm-made ethyl alcohol. This allowed the operator to stop at local farms (equipped with stills) to refuel his/her car during long trips through the back country. NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT AT GASSING STATIONS.

                                                                                        4. John D. Rockefeller, the industrialist-founder of the Standard Oil Company, had a virtual monopoly on gasoline at this time in our nation's development. The Standard Oil Company was pushing gasoline as an alternative fuel to alcohol.

                                                                                        3. John D. Rockefeller, under the ruse of Christian temperance, gave 4 million dollars to a group of old ladies and told them to fight for Prohibition. Why?

                                                                                        4. By getting Congress to pass Prohibition laws, Rockefeller eliminated his competition.

                                                                                        Viola... You have prohibition.

                                                                                        End of history lesson...
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                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by kane
                                                                                          I think the potential problem you can get with that is that the cost of finding these people and fining them will be greater than the fines they will pay. I guess you could make the fines enormous, but then you would have judges throwing out the fines or reducing them. If some poor bastard got caught with a couple joints and hit with a 5K fine he could argue that the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
                                                                                          What does it cost to house some pothead in a cell for a year? Figure out the cost and send him a bill. If he doesn't pay, fucking impound his car.

                                                                                          I don't understand why smoking is legal and pot is a crime? Drinking is legal, but meth isn't? Yeah, I know there's a huge difference there but a drug is a drug. One shouldn't be legal and drive our health insurance while pot is a crime.

                                                                                          I don't smoke pot, haven't since I was sixteen, but I just don't get why it's against the law....
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                                                                                          • chronic avenger
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I used to run a collective and we paid taxes every year!! now they are taxing every 1/8 qtr half etc... just my 2cents . at least the raids stopped

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by media
                                                                                              Damn.. $350,000 in taxes.. that means he's making $19,444,444.44.00 annually in gross sales.. That falls just short of the federal law that says anyone making $20 million in one year on gross reciepts of marijuana sales can be put to death with the death penalty.. yowzas!


                                                                                              Sounds like their account wasn't high when he came up with that number...

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                                                                                              • kane
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                                                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                What does it cost to house some pothead in a cell for a year? Figure out the cost and send him a bill. If he doesn't pay, fucking impound his car.

                                                                                                I don't understand why smoking is legal and pot is a crime? Drinking is legal, but meth isn't? Yeah, I know there's a huge difference there but a drug is a drug. One shouldn't be legal and drive our health insurance while pot is a crime.

                                                                                                I don't smoke pot, haven't since I was sixteen, but I just don't get why it's against the law....
                                                                                                I agree fully. I have probably smoked pot 5-7 times in my life. It is fun, but only on rare occasions. I'm sure some point in the future I'll smoke it again, but who knows.

                                                                                                I think is should be legal. Make it legal, sell it like the do cigarettes and tax it. They could raise a tone of money and would cut back on crime because you would be cutting the middle men out of it. You would have farmers growing it as a regular crop, not drug dealers smuggling it and hiding from the cops. I can understand why meth is illegal. It is a drug that many people use one time and instantly become hopelessly addicted to it. The recovery rate for meth addicts is about 10%. If you make that legal you could have a lot of people use it just out of curiosity and end up down a bad road.

                                                                                                Very few potheads ever see a jail. Unless you have enough on you that they consider you to be a dealer you will just get a ticket and be sent on your way. I have a bunch of friends that are cops and they recently busted a couple of guys that were dealers. They got a decent amount of pot from them, but they literally spent about 350 man hours setting it all up. That operation cost his department over 15K in overtime pay and other expenses. Chances are the guys will eventually get around 10K each in fines and will get probation (they might serve up to 9 months, but chances are they will plead down and take a long term probation). When you add in the cost of the department that busted them then the DA to prosecute and the public defenders office you rack up a lot of expenses pretty quickly. I supposed you could just bill them for it all and if they don't pay it impound their car and suspend their licenses, but then we are talking about criminals here and most of the time they are not very responsible people. They will probably just buy another car and drive illegally. Also if they get out of jail and are looking at 100K in debt they have little motivation to actually get a real job and reform their lives so they will be more tempted to go right back to crime.

                                                                                                I suppose you could hammer on them and seize property and visit them regularly where they live and take anything of value until it is paid back, but then you have the expense of having people carry out those actions.

                                                                                                Trying to profit by having the criminals pay is just something that really doesn't have much hope of working.

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                                                                                                • wizzart
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  marijuana is legal in California?
                                                                                                  Here Im go!
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                                                                                                  • InternetIsForPorn
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I wish pot was legal. If it was, there would eventually be standardized quality control.

                                                                                                    That way many of my friends wouldn't have smoked laced weed from shady dealers during school years, and wouldn't end up being drug addicts.. probably.

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