Fucking unprofessional sponsor, lame site not converting... DRAMA!

100......,.

I totally <3 this guy.

why thank you selena I love you to girlie

yeah well i <3 him this much!!

hahahaha you know how i feel about you

Fucker.

Wow, someone saying that they want to give you a handjob instead of helping ya shows that the guy really wants to help ya out.

Allure Cash Official Response Regarding Tranza and Jimmy3Way

For those of you following the drama involved between Jimmy3way and Tranza, I would like to take this time to interject with an official position regarding the unprofessional remarks by both parties during this exchange.

First, I would like to apologize for comments made by Jimmy3way on behalf of Allure Cash and Amatuer Allure for anyone offended by his off the cuff statements. His editorial and/or private conversation with Tranza, via ICQ, in no way reflects the views or beliefs of Allure Cash or Amateur Allure. Those comments were obviously uncalled for, however, they were intended for a private discussion and not open to everyone?s interpretation.

Secondly, Jimmy3way is not an affiliate representative which he had told Tranza on a number of occasions. Clearly his customer service skills need some polishing to say the least. Tranza had been pinging him numerous times throughout the week and was told on each occasion that Jimmy3way was not the affiliate rep. He was told to contact me directly and he never made an attempt. My ICQ number and email address is clearly included at the bottom of every Affiliate Email that goes out, including the most recent email sent out to all of our affiliates on Thursday, October 26th.

Additionally, I find it very unprofessional to post private ICQ conversations on every board you can find, without first contacting the official affiliate representative, in the event that this matter could have been alleviated and kept off the boards altogether.

This is not the first confrontation between these two individuals... On July 8th, 2006 there was a slight altercation and it was taken to the boards at that time as well. I personally contacted Tranza and explained that I would look into things for him at that time. I told him to contact me directly from here on and he agreed. So you can understand why this is such a surprise to me. I do have all email threads regarding the first conflict and everything was patched up at that time.

I will not address all of the comments made by either party in this exchange, but I will address the accusation that our affiliate site is down 4 times a month. This is an out right baseless accusation. We use the same affiliate program as Danni Cash, and if RevEx was down I am sure there would be a lot more people expressing issues, as they have many more affiliates than we do. After all 10 years can get you a lot of affiliates.

As I am sure many program owners know, you can?t please everyone all of the time, but we do our best here at Allure Cash when we are contacted. Our affiliates are quite happy and we are always working on ways to improve on our program. We have been online since 1998 and are doing quite well, with the exception of this thread.

I didn't want to bring more attention to the negativity of this unnecessary exchange, but my hand was forced to defend our program.
Please understand this is not how we operate here at Allure Cash. This single instance is not representative of how we treat our affiliates.

Didn't Booble trademark this?

Umm... DHDMedia is a tough nut... Seems everyone in their programs is nutty to some extent...

I once fixed a shitload of their problems for them... Asked for nothing in return... I just wanted the tools to work correctly. The guy I was giving the info to suddenly blew up in my face asking if I was trying to blackmail them or if I was extorting them or trying to get money from them somehow...

No.. I was just an affiliate and I just wanted to shit to work right.

He got heated and started threatening to close my accounts in the program and possibly call the cops because I was fucking with him... No... I was just an affiliate and the tools didn't work and I knew how to fix them...

After that I pretty much stopped promoting anything DHDMedia does...

Both my girlfriend and I have had significant problems getting paid from DHD on a number of occasions, despite the fact we pushed good numbers.

Nice post Rattlehead. It's nice to see the company's official view on the situation.

If someone says "I dont offer affiliate support" then dont ask them for support. Even if you think they are an asshole for being that way, what do you expect to achieve by bugging them/calling them out?

You're both assholes. Deal with it.

This sponsor's rep really sucks. Drop them !!!

Did someone say Amateur?

That's just one bullshit after another. I'll reply to it better later today or tomorrow, I was just going out right now.

You just lost my respect, not only because of the lies you posted here, but because of the threaths made on ICQ yesterday after Jimmy said all those bullshit to me.

yup.. you don't talk that way to people you work with or that work for you.. ever.

after seen the site, i understand why the OP tried to advertised you guys no matter what .. but if you would have such an attitude you will bring upon yourself unnecessary competition and enemies in an industry that their is more then plenty of it already.

You are so quick to blame the sponsor, how do you know it's not your traffic not converting on the site? i promoted Amateur Allure in the past and did phenominally well. Just because you didn't doesn't mean they suck, it means you need to find sponsors more suited to your traffic. I'd think after as long as you've "been around" you'd have half a clue about traffic dynamics, unfortunately you prove time and again you do not.

Oh, jimmy3way was not with them when I promoted them, I have no idea of HIS behavior, the only guy I dealt with there was unbelieavably helpful and friendly, and always available to help.

On any given week, pretty much, you have drama with one sponsor after another, either over their reps "disrespecting you" their "sites suck" or otherwise didn't kiss your ass or whatever. Did you think that maybe if you chose a better method of dealing with things than immediately running to the boards like a kid in kindgergarten who likes to tattle tail and deal with things in a PROFESSIONAL manner, you might get a hell of a lot more accomplished and waste a lot less time feeling the neccessity to bitch about anyone and everyone.

Agreed. With the right kind of traffic, the site converts incredibly well.

hmmm... I've never noticed this weekly frequency of drama

Nothing wrong with calling out an affiliate rep being blatantly disrespectful imho.

I agree. It's definately one of my best sources of traffic

well i can't talk as an affiliate, but AA is one of the very few sites I have bothered to pay to join. they have an awesome site with some of the best looking models doing hardcore i have ever seen. tabitha and paige on aa are two of the sexiest models i have ever seen.

great site, i would think it would convert really well.

If you combined YOUR niche with THEIR niche ... I could send about 182938102983019284124 sales/day.

Got surfers asking for that left and motherfucking right.

Hello,

Affiliates are tired of sponsors being assholes. It worked fine for sponsors when there were less sponsors to promote. It's getting old.

I can't imagine any other biz where the advertiser(affiliate) would be ignored, called stupid, told to fuck off...etc..etc...

The mainstream may have a point when they say "porn is bad", it definitely seems to create an influx of "assholes with money" into our society.
The longer I work in porn the more I appreciate how things are done in mainstream. I am seriously looking for a way to get completely out of this area of biz because the climate is scummy and I do believe that it is beneath me at this point.

I had an open mind about people in porn and assumed they were simply adventurous people who liked sex and found a way to make money with it.
So I thought, yeah, I can work in that industry, I'm intelligent and I like sex, they are just like me. But lately I'll starting to believe what a lot of people believe...that porn is for uneducated fucking slobs who can't survive in any other industry so they whore themselves out like the trash that they are.


My opinion of pornography has been lowered by meeting those who work in the industry and for the sake of keeping porn legal in the US I would have thought it to be differrent.

Seems like an effort would be made to show that pornographers actually have more class and respectabilty than the mainstream moralizers who keep pressing to outlaw the industry. But this is not happening.

Rather than being thankful for the rights we have in this country we choose to "thumb our nose" at the people who grant us those rights.
There's never a "thank you" from the porn industry to the people, it's always a "Fuck You! I got rights".

This is why the music industry can shut down Napster but the porn industry can't shut down puretna. Nobody gives a shit about us getting ripped off, because we don't give a shit about them and show no respsect whatsoever to the ourselves or those outside the industry.

We don't get such a "hard time" because of our content, we get a hard time because we ask for it by being totaly devoid of any respectable protocol.

Porn will never be "mainstream" because our attitudes belong right next to our products...in the back on the bottom shelve where noone can see them without explictily asking for it and being willing to accept whatever shit comes out.

He's also constantly starting threads about his or that sponsor program sucking etc etc, encouraging people through his actions not to look into them. A little simple research and a better knowledge of his own traffic base would prevent 90% of his "drama".

TGP does not suck for traffic, what too many people DO NOT realize is that not all traffic is created equal for all niches. To TRULY do well with TGP, not only do you have to have the ability to get traffic, but to know WHAT sells to them and HOW you market it. You can take the same gallery for one sponsor and put it on two different tgps that have the same "niche" of traffic. One might get shitty reponse, the other might blow the lid off for sales. Is it because the traffic sucks? Or the sponsor? ABSOLUTELY NOT. What it does mean that each stream of traffic, even within the same niche, will be looking for different things and that's what brings them there in the first place. Did you ever notice that TV commercials for the SAME PRODUCT are different state to state and country to country oftentimes? It's called appealing to the demographic, and TGP, or any other online marketing, for that matter, is based on the same principles.

Seriously, that is a well thought out and brutally honest but much appreciated post.

You're telling Noah about the flood.

Here are my thoughts on Jimmy3way

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=jimmy3way

LOL!

DH

bad bad bad

TGP traffic is just as bad or good as SE or any other traffic. Try using lesbian banners on a "gay sex" keyword in google. The same with TGPs, if its a thumb TGP or a text TGP with bad descriptions, the surfer has no clue what he clicks and he doesn't find what he is looking for. Same with p2p traffic, it can convert 1:500 and it can convert 1:100k. Its everything about targeting and offering the surfer what he is looking for.

How does pointing out that I have the best sense of humor in the business make Tranza feel any better about his fake ass ICQ log drama??

I mean really DH, this is serious business here.