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  • tranza
    ICQ: 197-556-237
    • Jun 2003
    • 57559

    #1

    Fucking unprofessional sponsor, lame site not converting... DRAMA!

    Ok, I won't even say anything. I think that the ICQ history speaks for itself.

    The sponsor is Amateur Allure, enjoy:

    Tranza (12:02 PM) : Hi dude, could you please have someone check my account to see if everything is ok? I'm at 0:4500 for the last 10 days, and my average conversion for the whole time I promoted you guys is around 1:800...

    Jimmy-3-Way (12:40 PM) : Didn't you drop us?

    Jimmy-3-Way (12:48 PM) : The most prominent place I see traffic from in the last 10 days is Pichunter. That stuff is pure hitbot. Sorry, dude we can't convert bots. No credit cards.

    Tranza (01:14 PM) : Lol, that's my best converting TGP traffic, next to Marks-Bookmarks. Not to mention what you said is pure bullshit abot the traffic coming mainly from Pichunter. And I hadn't dropped you because I talked to Jim and he sounded like he knew what he was doing, he looked over, talked to the techs and my sales picked up. Just like I suspected.

    Tranza (01:15 PM) : A simple: "sure, I'll make sure someone checks your account over", would be nice. I guess you don't want me as an affiliate any longer.

    Jimmy-3-Way (01:15 PM) : You already told me you weren't going to push us, then yo slammed us on GFY,

    Jimmy-3-Way (01:15 PM) : You want me to blow smoke up your ass or tell you what I see?

    Tranza (01:16 PM) : I NEVER slammed you on GFY. Guess what idiot, I'll do that now...

    Jimmy-3-Way (01:16 PM) : Sure, go for it.

    Jimmy-3-Way (01:17 PM) : You asked me a question, I gave you an answer. What else do you want a handjob and a pat on the back?


    This whole conversation shows just how unprofessional this guys are. Their affiliate area is down at least 4 times a month, and everytime I complainned about it they only say: "Sorry, it's not our fault". Not to mention it sucks big time, feel free to check it for yourself.

    Sponsor dropped. Webmasters beware.

    And Jimmy, this is for you:
    I'm just a newbie.
  • SxDx
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    • Mar 2006
    • 2254

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    • Huggles
      So Fucking Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 13061

      #3
      Wow what a piece of shit

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      • amateurcanada
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2001
        • 3766

        #4
        thats not very nice lol

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        • TurboAngel
          H.B.I.C.
          • Jun 2003
          • 30122

          #5
          That sucks.

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          • martinsc
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2005
            • 27043

            #6
            ouch........
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            • wdsguy
              Ryde or Die
              • Dec 2002
              • 19568

              #7
              2 sides to every story.

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              • madawgz
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                • Mar 2006
                • 30509

                #8
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                • Machete_
                  WINNING!
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14579

                  #9
                  what did you expect from Jimmy-3-Way? he delivered exactly the same shit he have been doing since the beginning

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                  • Pimpin_J
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3637

                    #10
                    What sponsor is it..?

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                    • Damian_Maxcash
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 12745

                      #11
                      Obviously went to the same charm school as JTF....

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                      • tranza
                        ICQ: 197-556-237
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 57559

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Pimpin_J
                        What sponsor is it..?
                        Amateur Allure
                        I'm just a newbie.

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                        • scottybuzz
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • May 2006
                          • 14799

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wdsguy
                          2 sides to every story.
                          if that icq story is true... i dont think so, but to be sure we need to see all icq logs between tranza and that company
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                          • polish_aristocrat
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 40377

                            #14
                            Originally posted by damian2001
                            Obviously went to the same charm school as JTF....
                            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                            • wedouglas
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 5921

                              #15
                              every think it was just bad luck with those stats? It's only 5 sales. Not like you average 30 a day and the last ten days you have 0

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                              • ForteCash
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                                • Feb 2006
                                • 3278

                                #16
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                                • interracialtoons
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2006
                                  • 1910

                                  #17
                                  Well, thanks for the info. I will not sign up for sure.

                                  I've been around a while and I've noticed that sponsors that talk shit to affiliates when a issue comes up have usually faded away to nothing.

                                  Mainly I think they die out because the issue was real and they never fix it and other webmasters quit their program but never complain.
                                  Done.

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                                  • jimmy-3-way
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2001
                                    • 3861

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by scottybuzz
                                    if that icq story is true... i dont think so, but to be sure we need to see all icq logs between tranza and that company
                                    Like the ICQ logs where I tell Tranza time after time after time after time after time that I don't do affiliate support?

                                    Those?
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                                    • wedouglas
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 5921

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                      Like the ICQ logs where I tell Tranza time after time after time after time after time that I don't do affiliate support?

                                      Those?
                                      hit me up. i need some exclusive templates made for my galleries.

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                                      • jimmy-3-way
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 3861

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by interracialtoons
                                        Well, thanks for the info. I will not sign up for sure.

                                        I've been around a while and I've noticed that sponsors that talk shit to affiliates when a issue comes up have usually faded away to nothing.
                                        Amateur Allure has been going strong for TEN YEARS now. I'm sure we're not going anywhere.

                                        The reason we've been around so long isn't because we're "talking shit" to affiliates, but because when an affiliate asks us a question we give them and HONEST answer and don't sweet talk them and blow smoke up their ass.
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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635

                                          #21
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                                          • starpimps
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                                            • Sep 2006
                                            • 6954

                                            #22
                                            thats terrible, talk about not talking to people in a proper manner
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                                            • NoWhErE
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Sep 2005
                                              • 10600

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                              Like the ICQ logs where I tell Tranza time after time after time after time after time that I don't do affiliate support?

                                              Those?
                                              oh snap!
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                                              • Damian_Maxcash
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 12745

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                Like the ICQ logs where I tell Tranza time after time after time after time after time that I don't do affiliate support?

                                                Those?
                                                and I think you should stick to that policy.....

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                                                • tranza
                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 57559

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ebus_dk
                                                  what did you expect from Jimmy-3-Way? he delivered exactly the same shit he have been doing since the beginning
                                                  I think that so many people complained about his program before, since it sucks, that everytime an affiliate asks for help he feels the need to bash them.
                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                  • interracialtoons
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2006
                                                    • 1910

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                    Amateur Allure has been going strong for TEN YEARS now. I'm sure we're not going anywhere.

                                                    The reason we've been around so long isn't because we're "talking shit" to affiliates, but because when an affiliate asks us a question we give them and HONEST answer and don't sweet talk them and blow smoke up their ass.
                                                    Oh, OK. Thanks for the reply. I've totaly changed my mind after reading it.
                                                    Done.

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                                                    • DarkJedi
                                                      No Refunds Issued.
                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 28301

                                                      #27
                                                      What an asshole.


                                                      What program is that? I'll be sure to steer clear.

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                                                      • L-Pink
                                                        working on my tan
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 39151

                                                        #28
                                                        I would have got the handjob then dropped them.

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                                                        • tranza
                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 57559

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by wedouglas
                                                          every think it was just bad luck with those stats? It's only 5 sales. Not like you average 30 a day and the last ten days you have 0
                                                          Last time this happened, Jimmy-3-Way pretty much tld me the same bullshit, and I was pissed and told him I was going to drop them. The same day their affiliate support contacted me saying he was sorry to read the conversation I had with Jimmy and told me that the techs were going to check to see if there was anything wrong. Surprize surprize: they found some errors and I started seeing sales that exact same day.
                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                          • tranza
                                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 57559

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                            What an asshole.


                                                            What program is that? I'll be sure to steer clear.
                                                            Amateur Allure
                                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 40377

                                                              #31
                                                              Ok, I won't even say anything. I think that the ICQ history speaks for itself.

                                                              The sponsor is Amateur Allure, enjoy:
                                                              Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                              What an asshole.


                                                              What program is that? I'll be sure to steer clear.

                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                              • beemk
                                                                CLICK HERE
                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 20829

                                                                #32
                                                                http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=629636

                                                                looks like your traffic doesn't convert very good on a lot of other sites.
                                                                I host with Vacares

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                                                                • tranza
                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 57559

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                                  Like the ICQ logs where I tell Tranza time after time after time after time after time that I don't do affiliate support?

                                                                  Those?
                                                                  Just show me 1 of those, asshole.
                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                  • Kimo
                                                                    ...
                                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                                    • 11542

                                                                    #34
                                                                    fucking pwnd
                                                                    ...

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                                                                    • BlackCrayon
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 19634

                                                                      #35
                                                                      someone should get pichunter in here, lol.
                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                      • tranza
                                                                        ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 57559

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by beemk
                                                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=629636

                                                                        looks like your traffic doesn't convert very good on a lot of other sites.
                                                                        Yep, that was 1 day, as I mentioned on that thread.

                                                                        I'm sure you convert your traffic very well every single day.

                                                                        Get real.
                                                                        I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                        • tranza
                                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 57559

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                          someone should get pichunter in here, lol.
                                                                          Good idea. I'll let Tom know about this.
                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                          • wedouglas
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                            • 5921

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by beemk
                                                                            http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=629636

                                                                            looks like your traffic doesn't convert very good on a lot of other sites.
                                                                            owned

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                                                                            • Robo
                                                                              Just a happy man
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 10889

                                                                              #39
                                                                              This is a hrd work and it should be cooperation from both sides...
                                                                              If I see such answers - I think he should close his affiliate program...
                                                                              I'll not be an affiliate there...

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                                                                              • jimmy-3-way
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 3861

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                Last time this happened, Jimmy-3-Way pretty much tld me the same bullshit, and I was pissed and told him I was going to drop them. The same day their affiliate support contacted me saying he was sorry to read the conversation I had with Jimmy and told me that the techs were going to check to see if there was anything wrong. Surprize surprize: they found some errors and I started seeing sales that exact same day.
                                                                                Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                                                Like the ICQ logs where I tell Tranza time after time after time after time after time that I don't do affiliate support?

                                                                                Those?
                                                                                Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                Just show me 1 of those, asshole.
                                                                                Dude, you just pointed out above that you ALREADY KNEW that I'm not affiliate support at AA. You've known that all along.

                                                                                Why do you keep coming to me and getting pissed when I don't hold your hand?
                                                                                Make money offa that Asian honey - www.eroticmp.com.

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                                                                                • gfx3
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 1685

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                                                  Amateur Allure has been going strong for TEN YEARS now. I'm sure we're not going anywhere.

                                                                                  The reason we've been around so long isn't because we're "talking shit" to affiliates, but because when an affiliate asks us a question we give them and HONEST answer and don't sweet talk them and blow smoke up their ass.
                                                                                  You are not polite and show no respect toward the people that generate income for your program.

                                                                                  Business lesson 1: Show courtesy and respect towards the people who pay your bills.

                                                                                  Tranza did the right thing by posting your conversation in here to show everybody what type of character you are. Now we all know how you treat your affiliates.

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                                                                                  • beemk
                                                                                    CLICK HERE
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 20829

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                    Yep, that was 1 day, as I mentioned on that thread.

                                                                                    I'm sure you convert your traffic very well every single day.

                                                                                    Get real.
                                                                                    nope, it doesn't. ill be the first to admit my traffic doesn't convert that good on amateur allure from hosted galleries. i've been in the business long enough to know when you aren't doing good with one sponsor, that you need to move on and try a different sponsor that converts with your traffic. all traffic is different. i've sent se traffic to amateur allure and it converted awesome.

                                                                                    i think jimmy3way was an asshole the way he handled it, but you should be glad he was honest with you. ive had several sponsors say "oh let me take a look at your account and help you out" in the past, well chances are theres no helping you and they just don't want to lose your traffic. you need to go find a sponsor that converts for you and move on instead of bitching about it several times on gfy.
                                                                                    I host with Vacares

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                                                                                    • MaddCaz
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                                                                                      #43
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                                                                                      • pocketkangaroo
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                                        • 8452

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I think it's kind of silly to blame a sponsor for everything here. If your traffic doesn't convert with them, pull the links and put up a new one. I'm not sure why people always assume that contacting a rep or sponsor is somehow going to magically fix bad conversion ratios. If a sponsor knew how to magically turn your 0:4500 into 1:500 with the snap of a finger, they wouldn't be in need of affiliates.

                                                                                        You also have to take into consideration that 0:4500 is a fairly small sample size if you consistently converted at 1:800. A nice little run with that sponsor and you're back to where you should be.

                                                                                        I guess I don't put the onus on the sponsor. There are simply too many out there to sit around and worry about one. If they don't convert with your traffic any longer, move on.

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                                                                                        • tranza
                                                                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 57559

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by beemk
                                                                                          nope, it doesn't. ill be the first to admit my traffic doesn't convert that good on amateur allure from hosted galleries. i've been in the business long enough to know when you aren't doing good with one sponsor, that you need to move on and try a different sponsor that converts with your traffic. all traffic is different. i've sent se traffic to amateur allure and it converted awesome.

                                                                                          i think jimmy3way was an asshole the way he handled it, but you should be glad he was honest with you. ive had several sponsors say "oh let me take a look at your account and help you out" in the past, well chances are theres no helping you and they just don't want to lose your traffic. you need to go find a sponsor that converts for you and move on instead of bitching about it several times on gfy.
                                                                                          Sorry if I was rude on my reply to you beemk. I apologize for that.

                                                                                          I get what you're saying. But the point in this case is that their affiliates area is down at least once every 2 weeks, and I had this problem with my account before. And after the techs took a look at it they found some database problem and my sales started flowing THE SAME DAY!

                                                                                          As you can see, I approached him asking if he could tell the techs to take a look at it again, nothing else. I still wanted to promote them. This is not going to happen anymore.
                                                                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                          • dutchteencash kayla
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Sep 2006
                                                                                            • 93

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I?ve always had good relations with AA as a model, as well as, a DTC sales rep and Jimmy has always ALWAYS been courteous to me no matter what info I needed.

                                                                                            Thank You Paul and Jimmy-

                                                                                            ICQ 414-936-259
                                                                                            kayla AT dutchteencash DOT com
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                                                                                            • jmk
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 5391

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              See sig ;)

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                                                                                              • BradM
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                                • 3397

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Tranza has great traffic, so I doubt that is the issue.

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                                                                                                • tranza
                                                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 57559

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Bump!

                                                                                                  I won't let this one die easily.
                                                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                  • jimmy-3-way
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                    • 3861

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Oh please.
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