...and I'm going to have to agree with everything brand0n has posted so far.
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Hold promotional contests and don't pay the winners.Sleep well, and dream of large women.
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Good thread.
My complaint would be sponsors that just lie about shit, especially on the board. They'll say "oh we retain like crazy", you test them out, and they don't. Then you get idiots who have never promoted them telling you how great they are and backing up the companies.Comment
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printing "our members get laid and our affiliates get paid" on the face of their checks - this alone will force at least 2% of their affiliates NOT to cash their checks, especially those living in small towns where everybody knows each otherComment
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bump for a biz threadwant to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.Comment
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Good thread JuicyComment
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Changing console-free link codes to console codes - and then denying it. I've had that happen more than once, and both under NATS.
Invoking the "cheat" regime when you manage to get a sale after two hits - fuckers!From onions to pearlsComment
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But isn't all this worth it so some program owner can buy you a beer, shake your hand and call you bro at a show then send you a branded T shirt so that you'll make a thread on GFY saying 'thanks for the T shirt', 'you're a stand up guy' and then having all the sheep come in and agree what a great program it is?
Btw, does anyone actually realise that you only get sent free shit so that you'll make a thread thanking them for the free shit?
Another btw, does anyone realise that the way that sponsors can afford to offer you insane amounts per signup is by shaving the shit out of your traffic the other 90% of the time.Comment
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How about when the surfer gets to the join page and there's a choice of two different payment processors, you only get credit if the surfer signs up for one of 'em...
And the traffic leaks seems to be becoming more prominent... makes you wonder about the paysites themselves, if the sponsor doesn't want the surfer on their own site then why the fuck should i be sending them there?
When you're given a fat load of FHG links to load into your tgp software but not all of them are working...Comment
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I make the best damn threads btwComment
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Interesting stuff.So much for lurking...Comment
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My all time favorite:
The megapass.
Let's take a surfer, and instead of selling him 1 good site, you will give away the entire farm and make him dead to me forever. That's right, now 39 other sites that I promote are now useless for that surfer, because he already has a membership. Thanks for the $25 a signup, now I have to stop promoting the other 38 sites because I can't sell the anymore.
It helps the sponsor's retention, but man, it fucks up my ability to sell sites.Comment
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Fucking pisses me off to send traffic to a site & they're advertising other programs sites right on the front end
Also, annoys me when a program has consoles that promote other programs sites.. they're only in business of selling exit traffic & not memberships as far as I'm concerned.. These programs are usually the ones with the poorest ratios & conversions
Reps making deals, telling you they convert great, that they'll be your #1 sponsor & you send traffic & it does not sell at all.. not one single fucking sale..
Biggest pet peeve.. big promotions & contests.. So, here I am making some decent cake with affiliate program A who one day decides to come on gfy & make a HUGE contest thread & now every webmaster on the fucking planet is pushing sponsor a sites & now I am making shit!! Good business for them.,,bad for me,,,Comment
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If they make it an option, we would certainly include it in our program. This is why we have our min payout set at $25, for those who want to try their traffic without the bigger risk of trying to reach a high payout. Most of our affiliates reach the minimum with no trouble.
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That's what we're trying to accomplish. It's tough to get affiliates in the first place, especially when you are small and growing. But all we have is our reputation to build on, so we hope to hold ourselves to a higher standard than the affiliates expect from us. Integrity.
If someone finds a problem with our program, I hope they let us know. We would never let these things occur intentionally. We are not in the traffic business, we are in the business of provinding a place for it to land. We are not looking to get into the traffic business. We have done the footwork to know what we need to do to make a profit while getting the bulk of our traffic from affiliates. We get some type in's, but the majority of our traffic comes from you.
We started with just the two solo sites that are in our portfolio now. Right now we are gearing up to launch a new teen site and a couple of others. All we can hope is that we provide a good service until we have the numbers that we need to do the things that will make us better than we are now. I tell you, it's difficult when there are only a couple of people doing everything that gets done.
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As a program guy looking for affiliates, how would you suggest that I find them? We have not used the "contest thread" to do this, but it has been said that this is a good way to get new affiliates.
Some say offer higher payouts. Well, we just can't. I mean, we already offer up to 65% of the sale. That leaves 35% before any expenses. Not much of a margin there. Some say offer pay per sign. I don't like it. No offense, but I don't want to pay an affiliate $50 for a $25 sale that may or may not rebill. Why? Because I'm not selling, leaking or cheating your traffic, so I can't afford to.
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