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Biz Thread: 101 Ways to Screw/Fuck Over Affiliates

10-24-2006, 07:03 PM

Lets post some ways you can be screwed over....everyone post some ways.

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- Traffic Leaks ....I see this over and over again... sometimes you have to ask was it done on purpose or is the program completely .... "doesnt know wtf they are doing"

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10-24-2006, 07:16 PM

Yeah.. you mean like how the NATs code is missing on the Tour links on HolyMILF? Have your designer fix the last page of that tour and get us more FHGs for that site and the mom site.. Need 30+ for each dude. pic and vid galleries.
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10-24-2006, 07:18 PM

traffic leaks... I always assume they dont know what the fuck they're doing

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10-24-2006, 07:19 PM

Shut down your site and redirect the traffic to another one without notifying affiliates or giving credit.

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10-24-2006, 07:19 PM

going to join page and the back button causes 2 pop ups and changes link codes on console free links.

just found this on a big site.
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10-24-2006, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Tempest

Yeah.. you mean like how the NATs code is missing on the Tour links on HolyMILF? Have your designer fix the last page of that tour and get us more FHGs for that site and the mom site.. Need 30+ for each dude. pic and vid galleries.

no longer my gig bro :-) there were certain issues that couldnt be resolved, hence i got out

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10-24-2006, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by Dagwolf

Shut down your site and redirect the traffic to another one without notifying affiliates or giving credit.

yeah thats a good one
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10-24-2006, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by dvd316

traffic leaks... I always assume they dont know what the fuck they're doing

It's so fucking easy to "shave" affiliate traffic and sales with everyone using FHGs these days.. And when someone catches you, you just say it was a programming error.
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10-24-2006, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Juicy D. Links

no longer my gig bro :-)

WTF???? pisses me off..
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10-24-2006, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by Tempest

WTF???? pisses me off..

Yeah sometimes when your working with others some issues arise so i just sold my interest
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10-24-2006, 07:24 PM

As long as I can have your loins you got my traffic ;-)

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10-24-2006, 07:24 PM

not paying????

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10-24-2006, 07:26 PM

Sending the affiliate's foriegn "unbillable" traffic somewhere else and not telling the affiliate.

Email box traffic leaks.

Tour or FHG 404 page without affiliate code.

Change backend or rebrand company name and old links don't credit sales!

Overbranding videos and such.

Session cookies.

I will stop now or else I'll get myself worked up lol.

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10-24-2006, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by squishypimp

not paying????

well thats a given yo loll
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10-24-2006, 07:27 PM

just flat out playing certain affiliates and fucking the smaller ones

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10-24-2006, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Juilan

Sending the affiliate's foriegn "unbillable" traffic somewhere else and not telling the affiliate.

Email box traffic leaks.

Tour or FHG 404 page without affiliate code.

Change backend or rebrand company name and old links don't credit sales!

Overbranding videos and such.

Session cookies.

I will stop now or else I'll get myself worked up lol.

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10-24-2006, 07:29 PM

min payouts..

heres my classic example.

im converting this traffic 1:200 with sponsor a
sponsor b convinces me to try em out
i convert the same traffic 1:400 with sponsor b
now.. ive got to keep sending traffic and lose money to make min payout, or just accept that ive lost what ive put in and cut the lose there

both ways suck.

min payouts eat cock.

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10-24-2006, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by TDF

just flat out playing certain affiliates and fucking the smaller ones

yeah seen that a few times
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10-24-2006, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Juicy D. Links

yeah seen that a few times

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10-24-2006, 07:30 PM

not gettin paid on cross sales.

my traffic.. why the fuck do you get credit for it?

want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.
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10-24-2006, 07:32 PM

my cam traffic not buying enuff cam shows

i can not control them at that point. all i can do is provide an adult with a credit card intrested in seein cams. hell, to the point they are willing to drop a buck or more to access the site.

it is NOT my responsibilty to upsale them. its the sponsors. i have no control on the back end, if i did then it might be a diff story..

want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.
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10-24-2006, 07:33 PM

oh shit brandon is gonna have meltdown soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-24-2006, 07:36 PM

consoles on non console links..

this shit happens alot.. and its always a glitch..

ya.. i hear ya... fuckin glitch my ass.

amazing how offten and how many times ive seen this glitch..

i review links every so offten.. hell, i know people who dont review them at all.. ever..

and alot of companys know this.. all of a sudden a non console link pops up an over, an under and 3 exits..

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10-24-2006, 07:37 PM

This isn't really a scam or a trick because I know they're doing it with good intentions, but...

Solo girl sites using NATS. Now I like NATS so don't get me wrong. But we have all of these little "programs" with just a few solo girl sites, maybe even just one, and they setup NATS. My problem is now instead of getting my easy CCBill check weekly with ALL of my monies, I have to hit the $50 minimum with each and every "program". Maybe I just really suck, but hitting $50 for each and every one of those individual solo girl sites is a huge pain in the ass.

I probably have $500 sitting in various solo girl programs that I'll never get because let's face it, the girl will get pissy within 6 months and want her site taken down which closes the program.

Argh. Nature of the beast.

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10-24-2006, 07:38 PM

not paying on ach, pay by phone.. check sales...

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10-24-2006, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Sly

This isn't really a scam or a trick because I know they're doing it with good intentions, but...

Solo girl sites using NATS. Now I like NATS so don't get me wrong. But we have all of these little "programs" with just a few solo girl sites, maybe even just one, and they setup NATS. My problem is now instead of getting my easy CCBill check weekly with ALL of my monies, I have to hit the $50 minimum with each and every "program". Maybe I just really suck, but hitting $50 for each and every one of those individual solo girl sites is a huge pain in the ass.

I probably have $500 sitting in various solo girl programs that I'll never get because let's face it, the girl will get pissy within 6 months and want her site taken down which closes the program.

Argh. Nature of the beast.

Yep.. Which is why I look really hard at a NATs program before signing up... But I know NATs is supposed to be coming out with an option for this where you can still get paid from ccbill... hope it's soon.
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10-24-2006, 07:42 PM

prechecked cross sales.

way to fuck my traffic over.. hit em for fuckin 3 sites..

nothin like them realizing they are getting wacked for over 100 bucks a month for that stupid porn site they signed up 2 in the middle of the night.

then they look into it.. and ok.. ive got a footfetish.. and as embarrassing as that is, the surfer has came to terms with it and is willin to fork over the 3 bucks for a 3 day action to your site to see if it gets his jollys off

come to find out.. hes also now a member to ilikebigblackasses and a site with a pizza delivery guy shoving his cock through the pie.

wonder is this surfer is ever gonna click a link again...

and!

im not gettin paid on that shit eather lol

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10-24-2006, 07:45 PM

-done

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10-24-2006, 07:46 PM

Intrarresting thread...

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10-24-2006, 07:48 PM

Traffic leaks is my number one pet peeve. This particular website today was pissed bc. I wouldn't review them bc. of a major traffic leak.

I've also had some webmaster referrals stolen from me from a company that's skinned GFY.
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10-24-2006, 08:07 PM

Buy traffic from zango and other spyware companies.. cough cough AFF, Cams and Sexsearch..

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10-24-2006, 08:18 PM

The one month non-recurring billing option on revshare sites. Specifically, sites that otherwise rebill very well. The way this method of defrauding affiliates works is the surfer picks non-recurring over recurring, and the affiliate gets their one time cut. Since the site is so good the surfer does a rejoin shortly after his membership ends, and the affiliate doesn't get credit for this.

I won't name names, but on another board someone with a site that does this let it slip that "most" surfers who sign up for non-recurring sign right back up again at the end of the month.

I absolutely refuse to send traffic to such sponsors, and it's something affiliates really need to keep an eye on.
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10-24-2006, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

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10-24-2006, 09:15 PM

-Creating a Server Side "gateway" that strips the aff from a click and the sale (shaving)

yes this can be done yo and i bet my right testicle a handful and more do this.... hmmmmmmmmmmm
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10-24-2006, 09:21 PM

Losing the affiliate code on the way around... like making your tour echo the code on every link to make sure, but then either having the code missing from some links, or worse, replaced by another code.

Not having a good enough tracking system to know where sales come from.

Counting only 10% of the hits, claiming it is second page uniques or some other bullshit excuse.

Not knowing the difference between a blank day (no traffic) and zeros (the shaving machine rounded down).

Raising your payouts through the roof while actively limiting the chances that your affiliates can make a sale.

Adding links off, leaks, email collection, and other nice features to your tour without notification, but then sending out an urgent email when you update the wording on a tour from "fuck her" to "have sex with her".

Adding a whole pile of galleries, and then pulling them all down 1 week later.

Moving from XXX stats to NATS and not providing proper old code following / conversion.

Using the processors 5 year old tracking system instead of investing in NATS or MPA or whatever it is you like.

Redesigning your affiliate site 10 times, but never bothering to issue a single new banner or promotional tool in the same time period.

Making your hosted gallery codes incomaptible with default settings on popular TGP software.

Someone else keep this going.
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10-24-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by RawAlex

Losing the affiliate code on the way around... like making your tour echo the code on every link to make sure, but then either having the code missing from some links, or worse, replaced by another code.

Not having a good enough tracking system to know where sales come from.

Counting only 10% of the hits, claiming it is second page uniques or some other bullshit excuse.

Not knowing the difference between a blank day (no traffic) and zeros (the shaving machine rounded down).

Raising your payouts through the roof while actively limiting the chances that your affiliates can make a sale.

Adding links off, leaks, email collection, and other nice features to your tour without notification, but then sending out an urgent email when you update the wording on a tour from "fuck her" to "have sex with her".

Adding a whole pile of galleries, and then pulling them all down 1 week later.

Moving from XXX stats to NATS and not providing proper old code following / conversion.

Using the processors 5 year old tracking system instead of investing in NATS or MPA or whatever it is you like.

Redesigning your affiliate site 10 times, but never bothering to issue a single new banner or promotional tool in the same time period.

Making your hosted gallery codes incomaptible with default settings on popular TGP software.

Someone else keep this going.

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10-24-2006, 09:28 PM

Counting only 10% of the hits, claiming it is second page uniques or some other bullshit excuse

---Thats a good one RawAlex
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10-24-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

come to find out.. hes also now a member to ilikebigblackasses and a site with a pizza delivery guy shoving his cock through the pie.

LOL....Bro, you had me laughing out loud with this one...Good stuff, good stuff..I seriously cant stop laughing.

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10-24-2006, 10:08 PM

Shaving webmaster referrals.
My Gf signs up under me quite often and sends sales, yet my account shows a big fat 0
Hmmm....

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10-24-2006, 10:12 PM

2257 links on fhg's which lead to a page that has in bold "CLICK FOR FREE PORN!" right at the top.
Of course you don't get any credit for that page.

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10-24-2006, 10:17 PM

Changing link codes on webmasters, or discontinuing a website and sending all traffic to an alternate with our WM code stripped.
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10-24-2006, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Vox

2257 links on fhg's which lead to a page that has in bold "CLICK FOR FREE PORN!" right at the top.
Of course you don't get any credit for that page.

ouch.... thats something i havent seen yet.

More shit to watch out for
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10-24-2006, 10:24 PM

And min. payouts for sure and no answer or worse yet, bouncing emails when I need an answer to a question.

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10-24-2006, 10:31 PM

Here are somemore things to watch out for ...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=574648

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10-24-2006, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

come to find out.. hes also now a member to ilikebigblackasses and a site with a pizza delivery guy shoving his cock through the pie.

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10-24-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by brand0n

not gettin paid on cross sales.
my traffic.. why the fuck do you get credit for it?

Originally posted by brand0n

it is NOT my responsibilty to upsale them. its the sponsors. i have no control on the back end, if i did then it might be a diff story..

Perhaps stick with revshare that split everything?

Per signup is a different story...
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10-24-2006, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by RawAlex

Losing the affiliate code on the way around... like making your tour echo the code on every link to make sure, but then either having the code missing from some links, or worse, replaced by another code.

Not having a good enough tracking system to know where sales come from.

Counting only 10% of the hits, claiming it is second page uniques or some other bullshit excuse.

Not knowing the difference between a blank day (no traffic) and zeros (the shaving machine rounded down).

Raising your payouts through the roof while actively limiting the chances that your affiliates can make a sale.

Adding links off, leaks, email collection, and other nice features to your tour without notification, but then sending out an urgent email when you update the wording on a tour from "fuck her" to "have sex with her".

Adding a whole pile of galleries, and then pulling them all down 1 week later.

Moving from XXX stats to NATS and not providing proper old code following / conversion.

Using the processors 5 year old tracking system instead of investing in NATS or MPA or whatever it is you like.

Redesigning your affiliate site 10 times, but never bothering to issue a single new banner or promotional tool in the same time period.

Making your hosted gallery codes incomaptible with default settings on popular TGP software.

Someone else keep this going.

I always enjoy your posts, Alex

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P.S. - Let's add to the list programs that don't regularly check to make sure their "post back" from processors to their accounting software is always functioning! lol

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10-24-2006, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Vox

2257 links on fhg's which lead to a page that has in bold "CLICK FOR FREE PORN!" right at the top.
Of course you don't get any credit for that page.

Damn! That's dirty - where'd you see it happen?

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10-24-2006, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Juicy D. Links

-Creating a Server Side "gateway" that strips the aff from a click and the sale (shaving)

yes this can be done yo and i bet my right testicle a handful and more do this.... hmmmmmmmmmmm

You don't have to bet parts of your body, it's actually pretty easy. I can set this up in a few hours.

The point is not whether it's technically possible, it's whether the sponsor program has business ethics and is trustworthy.
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10-24-2006, 10:51 PM

nobody mentioned the short-time cookies ?
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