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  • ForteCash
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    • Feb 2006
    • 3278

    #1

    Government to consider using prison ships

    Government to consider using prison ships

    Reuters | October 21, 2006

    LONDON - The government is to consider using prison ships as a way of tackling the growing crisis of overcrowding in jails, according to media reports on Saturday.

    Home Secretary John Reid has advertised for contractors to provide ships that could house up to 800 prisoners in England and Wales as the prison population neared its capacity of around 80,000 inmates.

    "What he's (Reid) determined to do is to ensure we've got sufficient prison places, and obviously, he's looking at a number of ways of doing that and a prison ship is one possibility," Home Office minister Vernon Coaker told the BBC.

    Britain's only prison ship HMP Weare, which could house 400 low-risk prisoners in Portland Harbour in Dorset, closed in 2005.

    The ship, which had opened in 1997 as a three-year temporary measure, was condemned by the Chief Inspector of Prisons Anne Owers who called it an unsatisfactory, expensive "container" located in the wrong place.

    The announcement comes as media reports said 47 prisoners were now being held in police cells to deal with the shortage after police forces made 240 places available.

    The crisis comes because longer sentences and high reconviction levels have pushed prison numbers to a record high. There are now less than 100 places left in the system.

    Other plans being considered by the Home Office include moving some prisoners to open jails and deporting some foreign inmates more quickly.

    The Howard League for Penal Reform criticised the emergency steps and called for Reid to support community sentences which it said helped to reduce re-offending.

    "Police cells cannot provide services to people who have mental health or drug addiction problems and will not be able to provide safe resettlement," said director Frances Crook.

    "The system diverts police away from their community safety duties. No one benefits from this sort of panic measure and it is only necessary because the home secretary has not been paying attention to the deterioration of penal policy."

    Earlier this month, the most senior judge in England and Wales said prisons were too crowded to give proper rehabilitation, adding they were often used as "social dustbins" for drug addicts and the mentally ill.

    Lord Phillips said more offenders should be given community-based punishments rather than jail terms.

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  • abz
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    • Apr 2001
    • 4498

    #2
    paul wants to go to prison with all the men

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    • DjSap
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      • Jul 2002
      • 3869

      #3
      a ship sounds kind of expensive...why not have a guantanamo on a large scale, and this time not just for terrorists..
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      • CaptainHowdy
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        • Dec 2004
        • 94102

        #4
        Originally posted by abz
        paul wants to go to prison with all the men
        !!

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        • marketsmart
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          • Dec 2004
          • 20419

          #5
          reading it now...

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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818

            #6
            5 mins before one of US haters comes in here and doesn't read the topic and blames the US for this.

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            • dynastoned
              mmm yeah!
              • Feb 2005
              • 5061

              #7
              restore alcatraz and put some criminals out there.

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              • Nysus
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                • Aug 2001
                • 7817

                #8
                Too bad the hundreads of billions weren't spent on education, healthcare and general welfare....

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                • Z
                  Vidi Vici Veni
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 6308

                  #9
                  Island prisons like Alcatraz are the way to go. That and faster, less-lenient sentencing resulting in death penalties for deserving offenders.

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                  • rodney25
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                    • Jun 2005
                    • 7090

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dynastoned
                    restore alcatraz and put some criminals out there.
                    Sounds good but that does not neccessarily answer the problem of overcrowding. Why can't they just throw these criminals right at the heart of the Sahara desert? that'll be more practical.
                    Last edited by rodney25; 10-23-2006, 10:03 AM.


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                    • Webby
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 14956

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ForteCash
                      Government to consider using prison ships

                      Reuters | October 21, 2006

                      LONDON - The government is to consider using prison ships as a way of tackling the growing crisis of overcrowding in jails, according to media reports on Saturday.
                      There are far more issues in the background which were not covered in that news piece.

                      These range for a lack of prison accomodate to start with on the part of the govt, issues over the mentally ill being incarcerated, courts issing long sentences blah blah.

                      Bottom line - the govt is fucking useless again and not making provision for accomodation which they already know is needed. Fanciful plans of prison ships is a joke - the Prison Service already has more than adequate land for the construction of prisons - they just need to get off their asses and start doing work.
                      Last edited by Webby; 10-23-2006, 10:20 AM.
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                      • ForteCash
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                        • Feb 2006
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                        #12
                        very strange

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                        • squishypimp
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                          • Aug 2006
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                          #13

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                          • LB-69
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                            #14
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                            • aico
                              Moo Moo Cow
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14748

                              #15
                              yah, and the ships will "accidently" sink on occasion.

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