How they respond to it once they're made aware of it, is the BIG DIFFERENCE in my opinion. Don't you agree?
Uhmmm, it's now 2 days since it was stated that netpondads brokers/sells/resells Spots on rapidshare.de and they still continue with it, so are you sure you still think the same like you wrote it that they will take care after they are aware of it???
For me it looks like they care shit about it and support torrent sites!!!!!
Uhmmm, it's now 2 days since it was stated that netpondads brokers/sells/resells Spots on rapidshare.de and they still continue with it, so are you sure you still think the same like you wrote it that they will take care after they are aware of it???
For me it looks like they care shit about it and support torrent sites!!!!!
While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result:
If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability).
If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it?
While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result:
If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability).
If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it?
While you guys were arguing about stupid shit I called my computer geek in Europe, who called his attorney, in order to evaluate the Rapidshare situation. Result:
If the owner is located in Germany they are in for both, distribution of porn without a backdoor protection (violation of the German federal criminal code) and copyright infringement (personal liability).
If we all stick together we could kick some serious ass without it costing anything. Anyone in the mood to do something about it?
sure, i'am in with US$ 100 as i earlier already stated, but i suggest someone located in Germany should do the "paperwork"
uhmmm, what to say, the rapidshare.de spots are still available on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fc4b0cdf87c0e4
so i doubt Mr. Aga was seriously when he said he won't tolerate advertising on torrent sites!
uhmmm, what to say, the rapidshare.de spots are still available on http://www.netpondads.com/buying-spa...fc4b0cdf87c0e4
so i doubt Mr. Aga was seriously when he said he won't tolerate advertising on torrent sites!
He was probably serious about suing me though.
Whitehat is for chumps
If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!
It's the weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pull out of the etology thing if they won't cooperate with the removal of rapidshare.
yes, seems to be more easy to moan about other companies but doing absolutly the same. I'am also sure that netpondads won't remove their top US$ 4000 Ads for Rapidshare. This shows again how some big players which have some influence give a shit about webmasters and affilates!
yes, seems to be more easy to moan about other companies but doing absolutly the same. I'am also sure that netpondads won't remove their top US$ 4000 Ads for Rapidshare. This shows again how some big players which have some influence give a shit about webmasters and affilates!
No, it shows you can't read the fucking thread. You can't see that his reaction was surprised it was there. You can't see that he's the type of person who would do something about it. You keep bumping it like a stupid troll who can't comprehend the difference between what Aga's said compared to how the other sponsors have responded like Lars and AFF, SexSearch, EpicCash, GalleryTrafficService, and the other GFY'ers who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.
So what do you do? You pick the 1 guy who runs a forum "Good business, not Greedy business" who you'll see IS against this kind of destructive bullshit, and choose to troll him repeatedly INSTEAD of the others.
You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga.
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No, it shows you can't read the fucking thread. You can't see that his reaction was surprised it was there. You can't see that he's the type of person who would do something about it. You keep bumping it like a stupid troll who can't comprehend the difference between what Aga's said compared to how the other sponsors have responded like Lars and AFF, SexSearch, EpicCash, GalleryTrafficService, and the other GFY'ers who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.
So what do you do? You pick the 1 guy who runs a forum "Good business, not Greedy business" who you'll see IS against this kind of destructive bullshit, and choose to troll him repeatedly INSTEAD of the others.
You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga.
you gotta that totally wrong it seems.
First of all i didn't see anyone else using torrent sites for advertise complaining about it and crying loud, but that's exactly what Mr. Aga did. He sells US$ 4.000 Spots for rapidshare.de but complains that AFF adds are shown on such sites, that is what makes this thread interesting, at least for me. Additinally he is threating to sue the one who brought it up that he is just one more of these torrent supporters and nothing else at this moment.
If he was THAT MUCH against such business behaviour, so much against torrent sites, so why are the Adds still there for sell and brokering? I would have awaited at least some kind of "Excuse me, i wasn't aware of this, be sure it's gone in less than 24 hours". If this would be happen, which i guess everybody awaited who readed the full thread it's ok, mistakes happen, just human. But after it doesn't happen for nearly a full week now, so what else can be the conclusion other than he is exactly the same type of group people you descibed with "who tell you they don't care and they're here to make money.. not caring about anything else.", not?
It's one thing just to begin such thread, make accuses and than just disapear because you are in the same boat with the other torrent supporters. Hey, i would nothing like to see more than nobody supporting all that scumbags running or promoting torrents, zango, vidoscash and all that shit that hurts us all, but seems there are not many professional webmasters around thinking for the long run.
And yes, i guess i will bump this thread many many many times more, that's my right on a forum. I'am not a sig poster, i seldom post on gfy as there are not many topics of interest for me and i don't have any personal issues with aga or whomever on this board, i don't know him, never talked to him and never was in anyway affilated to him, at least not knowingly, so i have no reason to "bash" him. The only thing i would like to see is an honest answer from him combined with a clear statement that he is not supporting any torrent sites. Doesn't this make any sense to you????
You're not against Rapidshare or scumware, etc.. you're just here to bash Aga.
One more thing, you are totally wrong here too man, while many others just moan about such things me and some other webmasters try to make some blacklist of sponsors/programs/websites that support/promote torrents/zango/videoscash and similar programs and you can just be sure that at least me and for sure some other professional webmasters will boycott these sponsors and websites. Not that mine really do matter, but if more follow than there is at least a beginning done. So now i'am curious what you are doing against that matter?? My
I hope Brujah is right. I guess whether you believe Aga's sudden departure from this thread indicates something positive or negative (since it could be seen either way) depends on whether you had made assumptions about him from the off.
I must admit that this thread has been niggling me. Not because in its own right it isn't valid: simply because of the wider context. And it's not the only one. Within many of the threads about scumware, we have gone rambling off at various tangents to the point where inevitably interest faded and business carries on for the thieves just as before.
Somewhere in the drama, most people seem to lose sight of the reality that some sponsors and some fellow affiliates are helping themselves to money from everyone else's wallets. How many more years will it be before more people grow up enough that this kind of issue finally moves past being an excuse to sig whore or build post counts (or simply ignore), to become something we automatically act upon?
In the meantime, the only way those who are serious now have any hope of achieving anything is if they focus on one issue or even one sponsor at a time, and keep trying to drive the message home. And however much it goes against the grain for individual "entrepreneurs" to work in concert, doing so is the only way they can possibly achieve anything more than empty gestures. This year alone I have dropped sponsors for supporting content theft, providing discounts to review sites and now for being involved with scumware. That makes me feel better, but I'm not naive enough to believe it has made the slightest difference to the sponsors themselves.
Someone needs to start bringing direction to all of this if these dramas are ever going to become something more effective.
I reported rapidshare to adsense several times back when they had it, I suppose I wasn't the only one because it eventually stopped using them, I tried reporting them to paypal due to the porn but I don't want to do it within my account and the only paypal addy I have is the phishing report box. If anyone knows a good email to report porn use in paypal that would be a good idea too.
I'm sorry Aga but rapidshare allows anyone to upload files, it's pretty logical that it's mainly used to pirate porn. They don't even have a takedown form for copyright holders.
Reporting to the german authorities probably is a good idea too, especially with some really obscene files that get uploaded there sometimes
Bump as many times as you like bro.. coz i meant every thing i said.
The listings will be removed shortly OR I`ll pull the NetpondAds program completely.
I`ll bet you that Adult Friend Finder will not do the same though ;)
sounds good, but honestly, what's the difficult to remove it that it takes already a week and as it seems longer??
I agree on the AFF thing, and that's the reason i will remove each banner i have from each of my sites. Not that it doesn't matter at all but i don't want to be affilated with such sponsors too, not to talking about their affilation with zango. I'am with you on this, but as long as you have that spot there you have done not much than promises so far.
sounds good, but honestly, what's the difficult to remove it that it takes already a week and as it seems longer??
They probably have a reseller contract with etology, which I'm sure he has to have a lawyer review, in order to pull out of. Otherwise it might be them gettuing threatened with a lawsuit.
Whitehat is for chumps
If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!
They probably have a reseller contract with etology, which I'm sure he has to have a lawyer review, in order to pull out of. Otherwise it might be them gettuing threatened with a lawsuit.
i doubt a lawsuit from the biggest copyright infrigment website would have any chance of success. It's more than understandable to cut whatever contract is made until it's clear they are just and only illegal, but than again, i'am not a lawyer.
i doubt a lawsuit from the biggest copyright infrigment website would have any chance of success. It's more than understandable to cut whatever contract is made until it's clear they are just and only illegal, but than again, i'am not a lawyer.
I was referring to NetpondAds having a reseller contract with etology and getting sued by them for breach of contract. Either way, it does appear that he's looking into getting this matter taken care of.
Whitehat is for chumps
If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!
I don't really understand this tread, the situation is well known. Make a blog, draw lots of traffic for your affiliates, have people post copyrighted stuff and claim you have no part in that deal.
It takes only one real infringement lawsuit and only one blog owner or free server provider do some jail time and the whole system is going to fall within weeks.
Rapidshare is based in Germany, the legals situation there does not really support what they are doing. I bet that a decent entertainment lawyer could get them shut down in a heartbeat and have their president do a nice 18 months in prison, not for infringement in this case, but for distribution of pronography.
Here is my solution: Everyone who complains here puts 100 bucks in an account, we form a corporation that represent webmaster's interests, we retain a top notch attorney with an international law firm ,and kick ass. One time.
excellent point and if a group formed I would want to be in
I was referring to NetpondAds having a reseller contract with etology and getting sued by them for breach of contract. Either way, it does appear that he's looking into getting this matter taken care of.
Doesn't make sense because netpondads and etology are the same people!!!!
Now THAT is how shit should be handled!! Props to Aga, good to see some of the old school folks handling business.
yes, would be good if he does what he promises, but he HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING so far against it, have this in mind please, so far it's only 3 weeks promises, nothing else! Will see how long it takes until they stop supporting rapidshare.de .........
3 weeks left and still NO action from netpondads. Still selling ads for that pirate torrent site.
Somehow i have a feeling that nothing will be handled as Aga loudly promised!
Maybe netpondads wants to wait until this site gets shoot down by the authorities and meanwhile making some bucks with the US$ 4000 Spots they broker there????
why don't you go to Aga's board and ask him there,
because:
- i'am not a member there, neither i see any need to join there
- as i have said it earlier already, it's nothing personal against him, making me post on his board the same issue would bring in some personal-hate-touch in my opinion and that's not what i want to happen.
- my answer and bumps are related to his responses and promises he made in this post and that is why i replied and bump it. As you can see it's not me who has begun this thread. But is there such a thread on his board too??? I doubt.
Originally posted by Brujah
in case he hasn't been back here?
is there any need he must come back to read this thread??? He promised and assured serveral times that he will not support Filesharing Sites but still is supporting them. It's not needed to read this thread everyday to take/make the actions needed and to show he is not supporting them, but he doesn't, so it seems it doesn't make much difference if he reads this thread or not as it just seems he doesn't really care about it.
And as there are nearly 4 weeks left i just guess he hopes everything will just forget, just looks like that for me.
I dont own Etology nor Netpond ads, its a white label of the etology product.
That said they are busy programming the ability to take various sites out of our white label. Its just not ready yet. If its not done soon I`ll bust out of our contract with them.
As its so important to you, give me your email address and I`ll forward you my correspondance with them.
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