YNOT Reports: Exclusive quotes from attorney Lou Sirkin regarding Extreme assoc.

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  • Darrah
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2009
    • 577

    #16
    Originally posted by Rochard
    I don't understand this. At all.

    I recently purchased one of the new James Bond movies on DVD from Amazon.com. Rape is illegal, but so is murder. How come no one got arrested when I purchased a DVD that displays graphic violence, people being murdered, and Daniel Craig having his balls tickled when he's buck ass naked by the bad guy who is whipping his nut sack? \

    What's the fucking difference? When Hollywood does it it's considered art, but when we do it it's considered illegal?
    No one is being hurt except for maybe the stunt doubles.

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    • kane
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Aug 2001
      • 20684

      #17
      Originally posted by notime
      Why is prostitution legal in one place and not others?
      -good question

      Why is gambling only legal in certain places?
      -good question

      There is a list of zip codes you don't ship to...
      -wrong zipcode and ALL your freedom and personal life ends right there?
      And when it comes to the internet there should be no community standard. I can understand the community standard if it is sold at a store in a community because then that store is part of said community. But if the product is ordered online and shipped to you the only people who know you have it is you, the person who sold it to you and anyone you decide to tell. There is no community involvement.

      It is no different than letting the community decide that books you can order from Amazon or what music you can download from itunes.

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      • notime
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2003
        • 8025

        #18
        Originally posted by SteveHardeman
        I don't know the couple in question. Appears they may have asked for it. However, the fact that they are going to jail for this should be scary to every single person on this board.
        "Allthough I do not personally support certain niches"
        But they don't deserve doing hard time like bankrobbers, rapist, child molesters, madoff's & subprime loan inventors...
        Their niche is is bit out of the ordinary but still I would rather deal with Rob Black then with Mr. Madoff or put my money in Lehman's. But I guess Lehman guys will not share a cell with Rob (hey, maybe their lies the answer.. where $talks&bs_walks)

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        • LAJ
          Gingerific
          • Jun 2001
          • 5567

          #19
          Originally posted by SteveHardeman
          I don't know the couple in question. Appears they may have asked for it. However, the fact that they are going to jail for this should be scary to every single person on this board.
          Or at least those on this board who are in the biz.

          Sadly, I don't think enough people care.
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          • mikesouth
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 6334

            #20
            Originally posted by notime
            Why is prostitution legal in one place and not others?
            -good question

            Why is gambling only legal in certain places?
            -good question

            There is a list of zip codes you don't ship to...
            -wrong zipcode and ALL your freedom and personal life ends right there?
            Read your consitutuional law the answers are all there first day

            try the 10th amendment

            "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

            amazing what a little fucking education will do for you
            Mike South

            It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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            • tiger
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2002
              • 6986

              #21
              Originally posted by Rochard
              I don't understand this. At all.

              I recently purchased one of the new James Bond movies on DVD from Amazon.com. Rape is illegal, but so is murder. How come no one got arrested when I purchased a DVD that displays graphic violence, people being murdered, and Daniel Craig having his balls tickled when he's buck ass naked by the bad guy who is whipping his nut sack? \

              What's the fucking difference? When Hollywood does it it's considered art, but when we do it it's considered illegal?
              Thats what I ask myself all the time. Americans love violence so murder and torture is fine. Just no fucking. Go rent some Rated R horror flicks. Who is going to say those aren't obscene?

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              • Robbie
                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                • Aug 2002
                • 20960

                #22
                It's total bullshit. The U.S. govt. is becoming so repressive of people.

                Having said that...Rob Black has done some crazy ass shit to get the govt. to target him. First he owned the pro wrestling promotion "Ring Of Honor" and then left that in disgrace after being caught up in some scandal with an underage boy. That kind of stuff just puts you all over the government radar. And with our govt., that's a bad thing. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now.
                -Robbie
                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                • Profits of Doom
                  Monster Rain
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 4978

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Robbie
                  It's total bullshit. The U.S. govt. is becoming so repressive of people.

                  Having said that...Rob Black has done some crazy ass shit to get the govt. to target him. First he owned the pro wrestling promotion "Ring Of Honor" and then left that in disgrace after being caught up in some scandal with an underage boy. That kind of stuff just puts you all over the government radar. And with our govt., that's a bad thing. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves right now.
                  That wasn't Rob Black that owned Ring of Honor, that was a guy named Rob Feinstein that also owned a company called RF Video that sold pro wrestling and MMA videos. Feinstein got caught talking to an underage boy online that was actually an undercover cop. Rob Black owned a wrestling company called XPW that operated from 1999-2003 and was doing ok for itself until the whole Pittsburgh legal issues, and Rob suspended operations of XPW to concentrate on his defense...
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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Profits of Doom
                    That wasn't Rob Black that owned Ring of Honor, that was a guy named Rob Feinstein that also owned a company called RF Video that sold pro wrestling and MMA videos. Feinstein got caught talking to an underage boy online that was actually an undercover cop. Rob Black owned a wrestling company called XPW that operated from 1999-2003 and was doing ok for itself until the whole Pittsburgh legal issues, and Rob suspended operations of XPW to concentrate on his defense...
                    Damn you are so right.

                    My apologies to Rob Black. Total brain fart on my behalf.
                    -Robbie
                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                    • american pervert
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 6840

                      #25
                      Originally posted by mikesouth
                      Read your consitutuional law the answers are all there first day

                      try the 10th amendment

                      "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

                      amazing what a little fucking education will do for you
                      exactly. it comes down to states rights and what CA allows, PA does not. rob black fucked up.
                      I can resist everything except temptation

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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #26
                        While I don't like what they were shooting, and the same goes for Max Hardcore, I don't think nobody should go to jail over it. Yes, they pushed the limits and yes they may have even been asking for unwanted attention, but jail time? Come on, that's bull shit. One more reason I'm glad I don't live in the USA any more.

                        So the question is, with Rob AND Max in jail, who's next?

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                        • american pervert
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 6840

                          #27
                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                          While I don't like what they were shooting, and the same goes for Max Hardcore, I don't think nobody should go to jail over it. Yes, they pushed the limits and yes they may have even been asking for unwanted attention, but jail time? Come on, that's bull shit. One more reason I'm glad I don't live in the USA any more.

                          So the question is, with Rob AND Max in jail, who's next?
                          Are you in thailand? last time I checked porn was illegal there.
                          I can resist everything except temptation

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                          • sortie
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 7771

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Rochard
                            I don't understand this. At all.

                            I recently purchased one of the new James Bond movies on DVD from Amazon.com. Rape is illegal, but so is murder. How come no one got arrested when I purchased a DVD that displays graphic violence, people being murdered, and Daniel Craig having his balls tickled when he's buck ass naked by the bad guy who is whipping his nut sack? \

                            What's the fucking difference? When Hollywood does it it's considered art, but when we do it it's considered illegal?
                            http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/o002.htm

                            For something to be "obscene" it must be shown that the average person, applying contemporary community standards and viewing the material as a whole, would find (1) that the work appeals predominantly to "prurient" interest; (2) that it depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way; and (3) that it lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

                            http://www.definition-of.com/prurient+interest
                            prurient interest :
                            (Adult / Slang)
                            A legal term defined, in 1984, by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit as ' a shameful and morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion.'

                            Basically if the rape/murder/torture itself is the only plot you have then don't expect to
                            win under this statue.


                            Mc Hamster says :

                            If you want to lose
                            then put gore
                            in your hardcore
                            and drink a lot of booze.


                            @ Mc Hamster.

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