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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47880

    #51
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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204

      #52
      Originally posted by Fris
      as will any program.
      You didnt answer me Fris, how do you know how much traffic i have?

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      • fris
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        • Aug 2002
        • 56006

        #53
        Originally posted by Franck
        You didnt answer me Fris, how do you know how much traffic i have?
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        • DarkJedi
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          • Feb 2001
          • 28301

          #54
          My prediction: 12clicks' program is going to fail miserably.

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          • Dirty F
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 59204

            #55
            Originally posted by DarkJedi
            My prediction: 12clicks' program is going to fail miserably.
            After the hype is over people will notice that their traffic simply will convert better somewhere else.

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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204

              #56
              I bet nobody is gonna complain about bad ratios though as his tos says any badmouthing on a messageboard is reason to get your account cancelled.

              Wait, cancelled is the wrong word. He will keep on taking your traffic just not pay you out.

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              • Minte
                Babemeister
                • Jun 2001
                • 7082

                #57
                Originally posted by Franck
                And you are saying Ron's rep is solid gold? You have to be kidding man...he stole SO fucking much affiliate money from NON cheaters it would be insane to say his rep is solid gold.
                I can only speak from my personal experience.I have always been paid and paid promptly.I don't pay much attention to BBS rumors.

                I've read the boards for many years,since 1998 actually and have read many 12clicks threads.The fellows that cry the hardest about getting cheated always got cheated for little to no money.

                If a program is going to screw over an affiliate it is going to be for some real dollars.Not cigarette money.

                Case in point... PIB.Do you remember the stats from when they were caught redhanded.They were not ripping people off for a few dollars here and there.In most cases it was significant dollars.

                Do I think 12clicks runs his business with an iron fist..yes
                Do I think he would cheat an affiliate over a few dollars..no
                You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Minte
                  I can only speak from my personal experience.I have always been paid and paid promptly.I don't pay much attention to BBS rumors.

                  I've read the boards for many years,since 1998 actually and have read many 12clicks threads.The fellows that cry the hardest about getting cheated always got cheated for little to no money.

                  If a program is going to screw over an affiliate it is going to be for some real dollars.Not cigarette money.

                  Case in point... PIB.Do you remember the stats from when they were caught redhanded.They were not ripping people off for a few dollars here and there.In most cases it was significant dollars.

                  Do I think 12clicks runs his business with an iron fist..yes
                  Do I think he would cheat an affiliate over a few dollars..no
                  Yeah 100 bucks is nothing but he cheated many, many people out of 100 bucks and i dont know every detail but im pretty sure bigger amounts are involved as well. And once again his dirty little trick was like this:

                  I call you a cheater. I dont pay for cheating traffic. But hey, im gonna keep the traffic anyway and wont notify you. When you find out in 2 months you have been cancelled and sent me free traffic for 60 days, too bad for you.

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                  • Jman
                    Already an AI veteran
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 22834

                    #59
                    Franck, when are you going to be able to have your own moment of fame?

                    Seems to me the only way you get noticed is not by self accomplishments in this industry or any industry but only by flapping you little mouth at others on this board.

                    Don't you wish you could be like 12clicks and many others whom HAVE done something for themslefs on the net appart from being known on a board called GoFuckYourself.

                    Come on Franck, time to grow up buddy.
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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204

                      #60
                      Originally posted by JMan
                      Franck, when are you going to be able to have your own moment of fame?

                      Seems to me the only way you get noticed is not by self accomplishments in this industry or any industry but only by flapping you little mouth at others on this board.

                      Don't you wish you could be like 12clicks and many others whom HAVE done something for themslefs on the net appart from being known on a board called GoFuckYourself.

                      Come on Franck, time to grow up buddy.
                      Im on this board for my own entertainment. I do my own business and it involves very few other people. When i go to conventions i go there to party. Not to network. I work on my own and doing just fine. And its not anybody's business what i do.

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                      • Cyndalie
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 3615

                        #61
                        Thank you JMan.

                        If you don't like people, philosophies, or their programs, don't promote them. No one cares about your years old beef.
                        Cyndalie
                        Marketing Director
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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Franck
                          Btw Ron, i love how you just quote part of the message *trying* and failing to make me look bad. Thats the scumbag you are. Just keep doing it so people like Minte can see what scum you are.
                          Tough to quote a quote in a quote, but your assertion that "The funny thing is you kept taking my traffic. So you fucking are cheater here. You take traffic you dont want to pay for." really confuses me.

                          How is he supposed to block your traffic?

                          If you know you aren't going to get paid, why would you keep sending it? You really lost me there.

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                          • Minte
                            Babemeister
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 7082

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Franck
                            Yeah 100 bucks is nothing but he cheated many, many people out of 100 bucks and i dont know every detail but im pretty sure bigger amounts are involved as well. And once again his dirty little trick was like this:

                            I call you a cheater. I dont pay for cheating traffic. But hey, im gonna keep the traffic anyway and wont notify you. When you find out in 2 months you have been cancelled and sent me free traffic for 60 days, too bad for you.
                            That's why I like to use programs that pay every two weeks.If a check doesn't arrive within a few days after it should be here.I call the program.Not an ICQ or an email..I pick up the phone and talk to a person.
                            I would never ever continue to send a program traffic if my check was a week late.There are only a few reasons why a check would be late and none of them are good.
                            It's business..
                            You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

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                            • Dirty F
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 59204

                              #64
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              Tough to quote a quote in a quote, but your assertion that "The funny thing is you kept taking my traffic. So you fucking are cheater here. You take traffic you dont want to pay for." really confuses me.

                              How is he supposed to block your traffic?

                              If you know you aren't going to get paid, why would you keep sending it? You really lost me there.
                              In my case i didnt care. I moved on to other stuff and was like you can keep my 50 bucks, its not worth changing all my pages AGAIN.

                              I dont have to explain to you how easy it is to block a website/traffc/account, do i? Youre a webmaster right?

                              He knew exactly what he was doing. Scamming tons of people out of small money in a "legal" way. A dirty, sneaky legal way.

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                              • Dirty F
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 59204

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Minte
                                That's why I like to use programs that pay every two weeks.If a check doesn't arrive within a few days after it should be here.I call the program.Not an ICQ or an email..I pick up the phone and talk to a person.
                                I would never ever continue to send a program traffic if my check was a week late.There are only a few reasons why a check would be late and none of them are good.
                                It's business..
                                Yup, youre right.

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                                • Dirty F
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 59204

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                  Thank you JMan.

                                  If you don't like people, philosophies, or their programs, don't promote them. No one cares about your years old beef.
                                  No years old beef. Before a few months ago i think i posted twice in his threads. It started recently when he started calling me a cheater.

                                  This is a webmaster board and i ask a honest question. Why would you promote his sites.

                                  Look how many answers i got: Because its not saturated yet

                                  Well, that answers my question and im about to go out.

                                  I hope this thread got Ron a few more affiliates. He deserves it for trying so hard.

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                                  • Cyndalie
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 3615

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Franck
                                    In my case i didnt care. I moved on to other stuff and was like you can keep my 50 bucks, its not worth changing all my pages AGAIN.
                                    50$?? You gotta be shitting me

                                    That's not enough to meet a minimum payout is most of todays programs.
                                    Cyndalie
                                    Marketing Director
                                    StoriesTraffic.com

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                                    • Dirty F
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 59204

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                      50$?? You gotta be shitting me

                                      That's not enough to meet a minimum payout is most of todays programs.
                                      Shitting you about what? What dont you understand about i couldnt care changing my links for 50 bucks or 100 or whatever. It was on my first website like 6 years ago. Do you have a problem with that?

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                                      • Dirty F
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 59204

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Cyndalie
                                        Thank you JMan.

                                        If you don't like people, philosophies, or their programs, don't promote them. No one cares about your years old beef.
                                        Btw, what are you doing in my thread? Nobody cares...dont tell me you do care..

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                                        • LiveDose
                                          Show Yer Tits!
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 25792

                                          #70
                                          We never got our final allclicks.com check. It wasn't for too much but still we never got it.

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                                          • Dirty F
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 59204

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by LiveDose
                                            We never got our final allclicks.com check. It wasn't for too much but still we never got it.
                                            Did you cheat him?

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                                            • Loryn
                                              Super Connector
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 12853

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Minte
                                              To address both in this one post.
                                              I have owned a programmed and worked closely over the years with others that have built them.It's a never ending task.Somewhere you just have to launch it and then continue to build it.Which is exactly what they will do.
                                              Some sites will work,those you expand..some won't.
                                              Look at the oldest and most successful programs,none of them started with everything.But the ones that have lasted are the ones that invested properly.

                                              #2-Your reputation as a businessman would have to be solid gold.And I would have to know you personally to be sure of that.
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                                              • LiveDose
                                                Show Yer Tits!
                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 25792

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Franck
                                                Did you cheat him?

                                                Nope straight type in & SE traffic. We got the one before that I think it was just mmmm maybe lost in the shuffle....


                                                Sent one email. No response. Moved on. But we won't send traffic to the new program obviously.

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                                                • Cyndalie
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 3615

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                  Shitting you about what? What dont you understand about i couldnt care changing my links for 50 bucks or 100 or whatever. It was on my first website like 6 years ago. Do you have a problem with that?
                                                  Franck, I do not have a problem. Your business decisions are your choice and your responsibility. I simply expected it to be more worth your time to find people and programs you enjoy working with and promoting rather than trying to find reasons to work with those you obviously do not like.
                                                  Cyndalie
                                                  Marketing Director
                                                  StoriesTraffic.com

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                                                  • Phoenix
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                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 35475

                                                    #75
                                                    I predict Minte getting hit up for traffic by a lot of people now.

                                                    i know im thinking about it...lol
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                                                    • CDSmith
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 51460

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                      Look how many answers i got: Because its not saturated yet
                                                      Stop being a bitch Franck.

                                                      I count way more answers in this thread than just the one you keep mentioning.


                                                      And for the record I say positive things about programs that paid me 100% of the time, on time, every time. The program of 12click's that I promoted for several years proved to be one of my more reliable ones. Like MInte, that's what I base my decisions on, that's why I give recommendations for certain programs.
                                                      Proven track record + professionalism = let's do more business.
                                                      Piss-poor attitude-having program owners = sorry, I'll pass.

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                                                      • scottybuzz
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                                                        • May 2006
                                                        • 14799

                                                        #77
                                                        time to grow up franck mate

                                                        This is where adults chat, not kids ok.
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                                                        • Nylz
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 8285

                                                          #78
                                                          Franck is my homeboy
                                                          No sig.

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                                                          • 12clicks
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 19816

                                                            #79
                                                            hahaha, frank, this thread didn't turn out any better for you than trying to cheat me did, did it?
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                                                            • Dagwolf
                                                              President of Canada
                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 23141

                                                              #80
                                                              They taste like chicken?
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