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06-30-2009, 06:14 AM

Educate yourself.. Plan for this and you will be ok.. It appears it will get worse before it gets better.. The dollar could become worthless and no longer a world reserve, that's when they will push the global world currency and destroy the US sovereignty and the constitution..! China is already pushing for this cause they are the largest holder of US debt. Just look around.. everything we use daily is made in china.. and its usually a piece of shit.

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06-30-2009, 07:24 AM

Fuck fox news.

I swear to god it's no wonder the right wingers and conservatives are so fucking nuts about Obama and the fear and paranoia.

Ok, so Obama nominated this hard core lefty for the supreme court (Sotomayor). She's a big pro-gun-control nut right. When fox news reported on this, their story headline was "Obama Declares War on America’s Gun Owners With Supreme Court Pick".

Thing is, the judge Sotomayor will be replacing is another hard core lefty who is pro-gun-control. So in reality, the nomination is meaningless. Lefty supreme court judge out, new lefty supreme court judge in.

Fox doesn't report it like this though, in fact they don't report it with any reasonable sense at all. Instead it's "OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO FUCKING DIE OBAMA AHHHHHH" bullshit as usual.

And this is fox news every single day, all goddam day long. It's the worst so-called journalism I've ever seen. It really does seem more like a soap opera than a news station.

It's sick, and you should really reconsider your own existence for eating up their programming.
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06-30-2009, 11:21 AM

this is an important read.. bump

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06-30-2009, 11:34 AM

What happens to China when they change currency and we stop buying or we reverse the trade agreement or they sky rocket the costs or kill the dollar?

If "Americans" aren't buying China's shit... no more China. Use your head.

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06-30-2009, 11:41 AM

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What happens to China when they change currency and we stop buying or we reverse the trade agreement or they sky rocket the costs or kill the dollar?

If "Americans" aren't buying China's shit... no more China. Use your head.

China can sell to itself to make up most if not all of the difference. They have 1000 times more room to grow than the US. The US is on a decline so China HAS to find another market, and they have started to, their own people.

What will happen to the American people if we stop trading with China? It will be hurt us far more than it will hurt them. The true inflation rate, that has been hidden by illegal immigration and cheap imports, will then peek its head out.
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06-30-2009, 11:57 AM

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With just over 1.3 billion people (1,330,044,605 as of mid-2008), China is the world's largest and most populous country.

As the world's population is approximately 6.7 billion, China represents a full 20% of the world's population so one in every five people on the planet is a resident of China.

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06-30-2009, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by potter

Fuck fox news.

I swear to god it's no wonder the right wingers and conservatives are so fucking nuts about Obama and the fear and paranoia.

Ok, so Obama nominated this hard core lefty for the supreme court (Sotomayor). She's a big pro-gun-control nut right. When fox news reported on this, their story headline was "Obama Declares War on America?s Gun Owners With Supreme Court Pick".

Thing is, the judge Sotomayor will be replacing is another hard core lefty who is pro-gun-control. So in reality, the nomination is meaningless. Lefty supreme court judge out, new lefty supreme court judge in.

Fox doesn't report it like this though, in fact they don't report it with any reasonable sense at all. Instead it's "OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO FUCKING DIE OBAMA AHHHHHH" bullshit as usual.

And this is fox news every single day, all goddam day long. It's the worst so-called journalism I've ever seen. It really does seem more like a soap opera than a news station.

It's sick, and you should really reconsider your own existence for eating up their programming.

Do you realize that there are some things that are bigger than the Democrat and Republican parties.

Nothing more interesting for a Libertarian than watching the Repubs and Dems fight over who spilled all the water while the house is burning down.

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06-30-2009, 12:04 PM

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China can sell to itself to make up most if not all of the difference. They have 1000 times more room to grow than the US. The US is on a decline so China HAS to find another market, and they have started to, their own people.

What will happen to the American people if we stop trading with China? It will be hurt us far more than it will hurt them. The true inflation rate, that has been hidden by illegal immigration and cheap imports, will then peek its head out.

China can sell itself to what? If it 'buys' anything its with our dollar, putting more dollars on the market, which lowers the value of the money they currently have.

If they change currency, they will want more for our dollar - all the dollars they have, would be worth far less, thus getting them less new money, thus us buying less, then producing less, the 'people of china making less AND THEN we can do them, what they're already going to us.

If the U.S. Declines, China Declines.. just like they are. They are on a mad hunt for oil/natural resources, because of our dollar. But that isn't going to 'help the people' of china, just the Gov. And changing currency, would still dilute all the money they have.

If they did this, your products.. wouldn't inflate. That .25 cent golf club you pay $500 for, will finally be worth $5 not $1000's. Some materials, will sky rocket.. but overall, all that trash China sells.. will be worth, trash.

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06-30-2009, 12:14 PM

They are talking taking the world off the dollar not just China. If they set up a new currency they will not lose any "value". There will be a fixed price that anyone can trade their dollars for. So China will not lose any value compared to the rest of the world.
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06-30-2009, 12:23 PM

Dollar Falls Most in Month as China Urges New Reserve Currency
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06-30-2009, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls

They are talking taking the world off the dollar not just China. If they set up a new currency they will not lose any "value". There will be a fixed price that anyone can trade their dollars for. So China will not lose any value compared to the rest of the world.

Aye, China has been talking about that for 20 years.

So they set a "global" set 'value' on a currency. Is only China going to be able to trade at a set value? So as we 'trade in' money, does every country have the same trade up value, was billions and billions are traded, the local values won't fall? Does the money come off the markets and increase world currency value?

Who exactly is holding this exchanged money?

If this value is set, can't I move money around and continually make money on my money? Wouldn't it be wise of me then to setup in a higher value country to just trade down, double my money, trade down to u.s. and double it again?

Again, this isn't anything new from them and NOBODY can expect the U.S. to be the world traded dollar, forever.....

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06-30-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by MattJustin

Dollar Falls Most in Month as China Urges New Reserve Currency
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aQ.zWVPnOYYg

This isn't anything new... And our dollar is STILL worth more than it was when started trading with them.

They just want to keep growing, growing, growing.. and it isn't going to happen.

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06-30-2009, 12:30 PM

Obama plays stupid but he will come out when the bottom falls out and things hit rock bottom and say this is the best option.. and all his faithful followers (sheep) will buy his bullshit.. PEOPLE WAKE UP

He's in with the bankers.. this is the change he spoke of..

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06-30-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by JC Maldini

Do you realize that there are some things that are bigger than the Democrat and Republican parties.

Nothing more interesting for a Libertarian than watching the Repubs and Dems fight over who spilled all the water while the house is burning down.

I didn't place any blame on anyone, or argue the politics. Just saying, Fox news is not a credible or reliable news source. Anyone who watches their programming is going to be brain washed into doom, gloom, fear, and paranoia.

Originally posted by MattJustin

Obama plays stupid but he will come out when the bottom falls out and things hit rock bottom and say this is the best option.. and all his faithful followers (sheep) will buy his bullshit.. PEOPLE WAKE UP

He's in with the bankers.. this is the change he spoke of..

see... thus my point
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06-30-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by MattJustin

Obama plays stupid but he will come out when the bottom falls out and things hit rock bottom and say this is the best option.. and all his faithful followers (sheep) will buy his bullshit.. PEOPLE WAKE UP

He's in with the bankers.. this is the change he spoke of..

What makes you think the bottom is going to fall out? Ohhhhhh yeah, fox news.. that's right.

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06-30-2009, 12:35 PM

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This isn't anything new... And our dollar is STILL worth more than it was when started trading with them.

They just want to keep growing, growing, growing.. and it isn't going to happen.

Yea but it buys 1/2 of it did.. I went out to eat hamburgers theother day and it cost me and a friend 44$. They charged us 4$ for a can of Dr browns creme soda.. WTF!!! I was so pissed..

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06-30-2009, 12:37 PM

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Yea but it buys 1/2 of it did.. I went out to eat hamburgers theother day and it cost me and a friend 44$. They charged us 4$ for a can of Dr browns creme soda.. WTF!!! I was so pissed..

When my grandfather walked to school for 6 miles in the snow with no shoes, bread was .5c and milk was .25.

China do that?

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06-30-2009, 12:40 PM

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When my grandfather walked to school for 6 miles in the snow with no shoes, bread was .5c and milk was .25.

China do that?

No fiat money did.
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06-30-2009, 12:40 PM

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Yea but it buys 1/2 of it did.. I went out to eat hamburgers theother day and it cost me and a friend 44$. They charged us 4$ for a can of Dr browns creme soda.. WTF!!! I was so pissed..

Was it zen burger? A kobe beef burger? Yeah they can get expensive around here to, but that hasn't changed much, they have always been expensive.

Cause carl's jr is still $6 - Haven't you seen the commercials? It's the same burger man.

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06-30-2009, 12:40 PM

I live in Europe, and I can see no signs of this, yet.
The dollar has been much worse before.

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06-30-2009, 12:43 PM

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No fiat money did.

Exactly... "fake" inflated money that's "real" value is 5 cents or whatever.. If you crush our dollar, it resets the value of our goods. Things won't cost more, because we already over pay so much for everything.

If we stop buying stuff, the 'fake' value of lets say oil, will drop.. EXACTLY like it did and will continue to do. They can jack it up all the want, it's all fake. And when we stop buying, they will lower it.

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06-30-2009, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Davy

I live in Europe, and I can see no signs of this, yet.
The dollar has been much worse before.

It has been far worse here too, not just our dollar, our eco, houses, banks, all of it. The 80's killed anything going on today.

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06-30-2009, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by potter

I didn't place any blame on anyone, or argue the politics. Just saying, Fox news is not a credible or reliable news source. Anyone who watches their programming is going to be brain washed into doom, gloom, fear, and paranoia.

see... thus my point

Just curious what news source is not biased...and where do you get your info? I have been looking for an unbiased news source...haven't found one yet, but would love to hear the ones that you have found.
As far as what I do, I like to read everything....the Huff, Media Matters, MSNBC, Fox, Alex Jones, Weekly Standard, and Reason Magazine to name a few. I think its good to get various opinions, do your research and formulate your own opinions.

I'm sure you haven't been here, so I'll help out with different opinions other than the donkey elephant show
http://www.reason.com/

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06-30-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by JC Maldini

Just curious what news source is not biased...and where do you get your info? I have been looking for an unbiased news source...haven't found one yet, but would love to hear the ones that you have found.
As far as what I do, I like to read everything....the Huff, Media Matters, MSNBC, Fox, Alex Jones, Weekly Standard, and Reason Magazine to name a few. I think its good to get various opinions, do your research and formulate your own opinions.

I'm sure you haven't been here, so I'll help out with different opinions other than the donkey elephant show
http://www.reason.com/

We are talking, EXTREME right, EXTREME views of Fox... they attack, bash, hate anything that they don't 100% agree with. If it isn't Christian and isn't coming out of a republicans mouth, it's trash to them.

I don't see ANYTHING like that on MSNBC or pretty much any other news station, left or right. Heck our most left, non major news stations, don't touch Fox news.

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06-30-2009, 12:48 PM

fuck fox news and the other media outlets.. they are pushing Obama's bullshit agenda.. whatever he says is right and their just his puppets..

Printing money out of thin air and no accountablity is the true tell.. The Fed is not telling anyone where all this money is going.. They keep bailing out insolvent companies who made bad decision.. this bogus fiat currency will collapse..

Look at history..! This is one of the longest runs for a fiat currency

Social security is one big Ponzi sceme that wont be there when we retire..

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06-30-2009, 12:51 PM

We will have inflation. We may even have hyperinflation.

That will in no way affect U.S. sovereignty or the constitution. Whoever drew that conclusion is a bonafide fucking idiot.

The U.S. is in the unique and enviable position of having it's national debt denominated in it's own currency. It's a problem we could literally print our way out of....unlike previous debt riddled countries like Germany, whose debts were denominated in precious metals or foreign currency.

FTW, I took what's left of my savings out of the stock market and put it into gold and silver last week.

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06-30-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by MattJustin

fuck fox news and the other media outlets.. they are pushing Obama's bullshit agenda.. whatever he says is right and there just his puppets..

Printing money out of thin air and no accountablity is the true tell.. The Fed is not telling anyone where all this money is going.. They keep bailing out insolvent companies who made bad decision.. this bogus fiat currency will collapse..

Look at history..! This is one of the longest runs for a fiat currency

Social security is one big Ponzi sceme that wont be there when we retire..

Didn't Bush print the money and start the entire process? Didn't Bush screw the entire Social Security system? I think so.......

But yeah, 150ish days.. Obama hasn't turned the entire country around, ever aspect of course.. THUS.. it's 100% all his fault..

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06-30-2009, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

We are talking, EXTREME right, EXTREME views of Fox... they attack, bash, hate anything that they don't 100% agree with. If it isn't Christian and isn't coming out of a republicans mouth, it's trash to them.

I don't see ANYTHING like that on MSNBC or pretty much any other news station, left or right. Heck our most left, non major news stations, don't touch Fox news.

I watch MSNBC...clearly you do not...but thank you for the good laugh.

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06-30-2009, 12:54 PM

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this bogus fiat currency will collapse..

Look at history..! This is one of the longest runs for a fiat currency
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All currencies are fiat currencies.

Name one industrialized nation whose currency is backed by gold or another commodity.

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06-30-2009, 12:57 PM

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I watch MSNBC...clearly you do not...but thank you for the good laugh.

Are you saying that people go around pointing out all the extreme, whacked out views of MSNBC, like they do fox, at all?

Cause that would be a damn good laugh.

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06-30-2009, 12:58 PM

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We will have inflation. We may even have hyperinflation.

That will in no way affect U.S. sovereignty or the constitution. Whoever drew that conclusion is a bonafide fucking idiot.

The U.S. is in the unique and enviable position of having it's national debt denominated in it's own currency. It's a problem we could literally print our way out of....unlike previous debt riddled countries like Germany, whose debts were denominated in precious metals or foreign currency.

FTW, I took what's left of my savings out of the stock market and put it into gold and silver last week.

A world currency that we are pushed into wont ruin our sovereignty?

Wake up we dont export hardly anything.. we consume

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06-30-2009, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Snake Doctor

All currencies are fiat currencies.

Name one industrialized nation whose currency is backed by gold or another commodity.

I think 40% of the Swiss Franc is backed by gold...

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06-30-2009, 01:00 PM

and has our gold reserves ever been audited? has the fed ever been audited?

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06-30-2009, 01:01 PM

There's already a "replacement" for the dollar... it's called OIL (to some extent, other COMMODITIES too). As the dollar weakens due to deficit spending and other structural trends, global investors will hedge by buying commodities. Dollar goes down, oil goes up. The recent spike in the price of oil wasn't fueled by demand by oil consumers. It was driven up by investors looking for a hedge.

Expect to see more of this as the consequences of the bailouts and 'helicopter' money printing start to appear in the later half of the year or first part of next year. $100+ price for a barrel of oil is not outside the realm of possibility.

By the way, China is wise to the commodities hedge game--notice its massive copper buying lately?

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There's already a "replacement" for the dollar... it's called OIL (to some extent, other COMMODITIES too). As the dollar weakens due to deficit spending and other structural trends, global investors will hedge by buying commodities. Dollar goes down, oil goes up. The recent spike in the price of oil wasn't fueled by demand by oil consumers. It was driven up by investors looking for a hedge.

Expect to see more of this as the consequences of the bailouts and 'helicopter' money printing start to appear in the later half of the year or first part of next year. $100+ price for a barrel of oil is not outside the realm of possibility.

By the way, China is wise to the commodities hedge game--notice its massive copper buying lately?

Exactly.. and then the hyperinflation comes.. then everything get 2x more expensive.. and wages dont go up by 2x so ppl cant afford to do anything and unemployment reaches above 15%..

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06-30-2009, 01:06 PM

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A world currency that we are pushed into wont ruin our sovereignty?

Wake up we dont export hardly anything.. we consume

We are 3rd in the world for production of goods in the world and #1 for buying power. That means we have more money, to buy more junk, they any country in the world.

With DOUBLE the room to drop than the next country.

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06-30-2009, 01:07 PM

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A world currency that we are pushed into wont ruin our sovereignty?

Wake up we dont export hardly anything.. we consume

So only countries who export are Sovereign? Only countries who have their own currency are sovereign?

That must suck for all the countries using the Euro, or the oil rich countries who keep their reserves in dollars.

BTW, we are the world's 2nd largest exporter, so do say we "dont export hardly anything" is not only horrible grammar, but it's factually inaccurate.

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06-30-2009, 01:09 PM

This guy can't be for real can he? He's gotta be someone's fake nick.

Do you work for Sharky? He needs to keep you on a shorter leash.

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This guy can't be for real can he? He's gotta be someone's fake nick.

Do you work for Sharky? He needs to keep you on a shorter leash.

Even if he is... we have a 1000 more people to replace him.

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06-30-2009, 01:13 PM

ask Italians how they like the Euro..

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06-30-2009, 01:14 PM

im done presenting my points.. watch those clips.. its my opinion and ill protect my assets.. u can follow your boy obama..

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ask Italians how they like the Euro..

Originally posted by MattJustin

im done presenting my points.. watch those clips.. its my opinion and ill protect my assets.. u can follow your boy obama..

Ahhhhhh You aren't American, I get it now.

And I didn't vote for Obama... I just know how my country works.

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06-30-2009, 01:26 PM

I am an American.. Im also a Ron Paul supporter..

wtv i hope im wrong..wont be a pretty site if it gets that bad

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06-30-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

It has been far worse here too, not just our dollar, our eco, houses, banks, all of it. The 80's killed anything going on today.

No doubt.

Originally posted by MattJustin

Exactly.. and then the hyperinflation comes.. then everything get 2x more expensive.. and wages dont go up by 2x so ppl cant afford to do anything and unemployment reaches above 15%..

Been there, done that.
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