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Why is this industry so full of asskissers?

10-20-2006, 07:13 AM

A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

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10-20-2006, 07:16 AM

fuck ass kissing, even if I know you and love you, I will tell you exactly what I think,, whether it be good or bad

I get sick of the fucking ass kissin too, and it is SOOOOO fucking obvious most of the time
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10-20-2006, 07:16 AM

another question - if a respected webmaster posts a shitty domain and asks for opinions about it.....

you can be sure that everyone will say how great it is

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10-20-2006, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by Jace

fuck ass kissing, even if I know you and love you, I will tell you exactly what I think,, whether it be good or bad

I get sick of the fucking ass kissin too, and it is SOOOOO fucking obvious most of the time

you're right you dirty fucking truth teller.
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10-20-2006, 07:19 AM

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you're right you dirty fucking truth teller.

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10-20-2006, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

another question - if a respected webmaster posts a shitty domain and asks for opinions about it.....

you can be sure that everyone will say how great it is

hahahaha...i LOVE that one

someone posts a domain for sale and there are like 10:1 people telling him how great the domain is, and it is usually a domain like momfuckingdads.com or something fucking stupid
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10-20-2006, 07:21 AM

i swing both ways from ass kissing to major asshole..depends on my mood i guess..lol

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10-20-2006, 07:23 AM

It's all about fitting in.

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10-20-2006, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

How to define "respected webmaster"?
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10-20-2006, 07:26 AM

you are a soothsayer.
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10-20-2006, 07:30 AM

Except for the sig whores - and they get the exposure at no risk if they stay positive - GFY is not different than any other group of people. Most people want to fit in...
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10-20-2006, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by m4yadult

How to define "respected webmaster"?

"Respected webmaster" = someone who goes to many shows, has a lot of big names on his/her icq list, and owns/owned/works for/worked for one or some of the bigger companies in the industry. Basically, someone with good networking skills.

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10-20-2006, 07:51 AM

Yeah, I'm didfinitley figuring that out, I thought I could come with an honest deal and get some negotiators, or at least some people in the "money business", like in other forums. It's about half and half. The real players, will contact you directly and dont have time to play the dozens on the boards.

A lot of lookee-luus, will try and tear down your confidence, and try to get you to drop your to pennies, and then that same guy will jump on the deal.
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10-20-2006, 07:53 AM

Well some people live of ass kissing.There is even occupation called ass kissing.
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10-20-2006, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Jace

hahahaha...i LOVE that one

someone posts a domain for sale and there are like 10:1 people telling him how great the domain is, and it is usually a domain like momfuckingdads.com or something fucking stupid

its way worse that there are 9000 NOEW SOLO GIRL posts every week and the girl is maybe a 5 or 6 and everyone tells them that plain jane girl is gonna be awesome. i don't think people know what to look for in solo girls anymore.
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10-20-2006, 08:04 AM

I'm pretty sure that asskissing is going to be everywhere you go...when you're in the Military, your rank is based on time in service, time in rank, and test scores but there was more unnecessary asskissing going on there than I have ever been around here
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10-20-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by A1R3K

its way worse that there are 9000 NOEW SOLO GIRL posts every week and the girl is maybe a 5 or 6 and everyone tells them that plain jane girl is gonna be awesome. i don't think people know what to look for in solo girls anymore.

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10-20-2006, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

"Respected webmaster" = someone who goes to many shows, has a lot of big names on his/her icq list, and owns/owned/works for/worked for one or some of the bigger companies in the industry. Basically, someone with good networking skills.

you don't even need any of that shit...just to be looked at with respect among your peers...a hard worker that gets shit done and has a reputation for good things is what gets respect in my book
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10-20-2006, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by Jace

you don't even need any of that shit...just to be looked at with respect among your peers...a hard worker that gets shit done and has a reputation for good things is what gets respect in my book

Note that I am talking about "respected webmasters", not about respected webmasters. The quotation marks are intended to emphasize the dubious nature of the phrase - it isn't about actual, well-earned respect, but about the social status of certain people.

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10-20-2006, 08:18 AM

dude...there are asskissers in every walk of life. this is no different or any worse then any other sect of life

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10-20-2006, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

There are ass kissers all over the place but yeah I've got to agree that the adult industry is totally fucked.

Same with 'dont call them whores its bad for the industry' but those same people will take on girls as talent just because theyre desperate for the money, knowing that they've not thought about the consequences of getting into porn.

The people most talked about on this board are the people who sit posting here all day....Some of them not even owning websites of their own but they slag off a sponsor, program or script that they've hardly even pushed and boom... all hell breaks loose.

The talk you hear from the industry get togethers is very rarely business but 'look who got drunk and fell over'...You hear few people talk about the seminars but tonnes of people talking about the parties.

Sponsors moan about the little guys having shitty ratios but prey on the newbies hoping to get them signed up..Instead of complaining about how few signups these poor clueless newbies are getting why not teach them how to make dollars using your program, give them the tools they need for traffic gen, include them in the traffic trades of your feeder sites etc... Very few sponsor programs actually do that!

Oh and then there's the censorship issue, 'no violence', 'no watersports' says one who promotes 'sleep sex', and 'spying on women', 'no bareback' says another who's pushing a 'all you can eat bukkake' site etc etc.... And let's not forget the adamant no-CP teen sponsors who are quite happy shooting their legal teens in a way that makes them appear as though they are underage..

Then you see a couple of webmasters who bust their ass off to make something new and untapped niches but instead of getting support from the majority of webmasters out there, you're lucky if you get a bump on a message board.

Instead the majority are flocking to the latest Teens, MILFs, Solo-Girl and Twink sponsors then complain that their ratios are still just as poor...

You're all assholes. But funny ones, and ones that I'm learning a lot from.

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10-20-2006, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

care to be a little more specific on who uses underage content and yet we all stick up for them - or are they just happening to use women that you (without looking at the 2257s) "think" are underage.

As far as affiliates etc. that is tough to prove, but it does not go un-noticed when webmasters ask privately who to use.

Stolen content if found out usually is dealt with through lawyers or other means. So be more specific on who you think people are kissing ass too who has underage stolen content?

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10-20-2006, 08:39 AM

I think you're confusing asskissing with analingus.
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10-20-2006, 08:46 AM

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care to be a little more specific on who uses underage content and yet we all stick up for them - or are they just happening to use women that you (without looking at the 2257s) "think" are underage.

As far as affiliates etc. that is tough to prove, but it does not go un-noticed when webmasters ask privately who to use.

Stolen content if found out usually is dealt with through lawyers or other means. So be more specific on who you think people are kissing ass too who has underage stolen content?

Well, a recent example of *hardcore* underage content would be GUBA. Lesbodojo is their spokesperson on GFY, and although GUBA now is disliked by most people (which took a pretty long while), Lesbodojo is still treated with more respect by most people than the average noob is.

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10-20-2006, 08:50 AM

well this is the 'SEX' industry
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10-20-2006, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

"Respected webmaster" = someone who goes to many shows, has a lot of big names on his/her icq list, and owns/owned/works for/worked for one or some of the bigger companies in the industry. Basically, someone with good networking skills.

So those "respected" ones have earned their respect in any way but hard working. I do not call that respected. It´s pretty much the same with postcounts. Postcounts can show that the poster hasn´t got other work to do and is able to post all day long. On the other hand of course it could be that this poster is such succesful that he has his work done by employed workers.

Aren´t those who cheer to those "respected" webmasters the ones with hardly three month membership and a 3 million postcount?
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10-20-2006, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

Note that I am talking about "respected webmasters", not about respected webmasters. The quotation marks are intended to emphasize the dubious nature of the phrase - it isn't about actual, well-earned respect, but about the social status of certain people.

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10-20-2006, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

Well, a recent example of *hardcore* underage content would be GUBA. Lesbodojo is their spokesperson on GFY, and although GUBA now is disliked by most people (which took a pretty long while), Lesbodojo is still treated with more respect by most people than the average noob is.

fair enough - so thats like 1 in 8000 roughly... is there a percentage of asskissers to underage stolen content people you want to offer that would change that number? sorry I just dont see alot of webmasters dealing or allowing someone to use the content you suggest that are sucked up too

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10-20-2006, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by m4yadult

So those "respected" ones have earned their respect in any way but hard working. I do not call that respected. It´s pretty much the same with postcounts. Postcounts can show that the poster hasn´t got other work to do and is able to post all day long. On the other hand of course it could be that this poster is such succesful that he has his work done by employed workers.

Aren´t those who cheer to those "respected" webmasters the ones with hardly three month membership and a 3 million postcount?

Like I said before, the quotation marks are intended to convey the dubious nature of this type of "respect". In this industry, many gain "respect" not through success, hard work or talent, but through popularity and the ability to be associated with those who actually do achieve things.

The ones who cheer them on, though, quite often are real webmasters, some successful ones even. Particularly if the person in question is a woman, there are very few people who dare say that the emperor has no clothes.

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10-20-2006, 09:14 AM

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fair enough - so thats like 1 in 8000 roughly... is there a percentage of asskissers to underage stolen content people you want to offer that would change that number? sorry I just dont see alot of webmasters dealing or allowing someone to use the content you suggest that are sucked up too

Underage is fairly rare, stolen content is fairly rare, cheating affiliates is fairly rare, using spyware is fairly rare, scamming surfers is fairly rare, spamming is fairly rare, stealing designs is fairly rare... I could go on. Together, though, they add up. And when these things are exposed, the initial response from many is often "stfu, webmaster x is good people".

Granted, the underage thing is pretty rare these days, but a few years ago it was quite common, with underage non-nude and artistic nude sites being promoted by quite a few webmasters.

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10-20-2006, 09:38 AM

haha, as everyone wants your secrets and traffic LOL. i mispell everything on my sites, everything but the names and addresses of the partners i pay so who cares hahaah :D

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A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

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10-20-2006, 09:58 AM

This is the porn industry! We are known by the general public as scum, filthy low lifes, bottom of the bucket, etc..Guess some just try to live out that image. Any others I forgot?
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10-20-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

Underage is fairly rare, stolen content is fairly rare, cheating affiliates is fairly rare, using spyware is fairly rare, scamming surfers is fairly rare, spamming is fairly rare, stealing designs is fairly rare... I could go on. Together, though, they add up. And when these things are exposed, the initial response from many is often "stfu, webmaster x is good people".

Granted, the underage thing is pretty rare these days, but a few years ago it was quite common, with underage non-nude and artistic nude sites being promoted by quite a few webmasters.

very well thought out and said.

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10-20-2006, 10:24 AM

It seems to me that ppl kiss ass either if a webmaster is succesful without checking the truth OR that everybody kiss a girl's ass at the minute she post a pic of her boobs even though her site sucks or what she states is completely out of context most of the time. You dont have a vagina or dont show it on the board and you get the whole fuck-off-noob bullshit.

It is although very funny to see big webmasters giving shit to all the ppl with 'no face' but start giggling and praising to a pair of boobs as babies does when you shake a set of car keys in their face.

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10-20-2006, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

i agree, or if a newbie comes into the market he is already doomed until he proves himself to the masses and kisses up as much as he can.

i think the business is about who you know (and who likes you) more than what you know.

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10-20-2006, 11:11 AM

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10-20-2006, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Libertine

A "respected" webmaster, program owner or whatever can use stolen content, use underage content or scam affiliates, and the majority of people in adult will still stick up for them, while most others will just keep quiet.

Meanwhile, if an honest but little-known webmaster so much as misspells a word, carnage ensues.

What the hell is up with that?

Yeah, I hate it too.

Just do what I do. Call them out on it. They will claim not to give a shit, but we know they do.
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10-20-2006, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by pornopete

The kissing ass only applies to sig whores squishy.

sorry you feel that way, but in my opinion you are wrong.

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10-20-2006, 12:02 PM

because there are many talentless people in this industry whos only means of success is aligning themselves with those who are already successful.

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10-20-2006, 12:02 PM

there are several asskiss clicks on here.... its pretty sad.
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10-20-2006, 01:49 PM

these idiots call it networking
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10-20-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by SxDx

dude...there are asskissers in every walk of life. this is no different or any worse then any other sect of life

yep, very true
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10-20-2006, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Mediachick

It is although very funny to see big webmasters giving shit to all the ppl with 'no face' but start giggling and praising to a pair of boobs as babies does when you shake a set of car keys in their face.

You have a very picturesque way of expressing yourself

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