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  • fitzmulti
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    • Jan 2003
    • 14861

    #51
    FUCK Ibill!


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    • F-U-Jimmy
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      • Apr 2006
      • 6853

      #52
      Originally posted by Loch
      If any of them show up i wouldn't be stunned it something nasty went down.
      Sadly it would be a waste of time, im sure we can all think of more subtle ways of putting them out of business without getting webmasters into trouble ?
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      • MsCheyenne
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        • Mar 2005
        • 412

        #53
        Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
        I dont believe the crap that these new IBILL ass hats spout for one micro second. When Iballs went down it spawned at least half a dozen clones. These clone companies where all started by ex Iballs employees. They all saw how Iballs was being run and how the Adult webmaster was being skinned alive. Im sure they thought to themselves, wow all those webmaster got taken for millions and no one did a thing about it, so I guess we can do the same.

        Take Smegpay and recent posts on GFY about them billing for tube site knowing full well that tube site profit from others stolen content. And when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar WTF did they do, try to wiggle out of it and when GFY would not let it die they termed the client. Im sure had GFY members not posted about this incident they would still be a client.

        I will never ever trust any company that was started by ex employees of IBALLS even if they just washed dishes there. They all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I seriously dont see why the onus is on the content owner to police every site on the web just to have his ? content removed from a site. Better that the processing company checks up front. CCBill does regular checks so why not Smegpay ?
        You are surely not alone by not trusting a company started by ex iBill employees. Just as a matter of curiosity: Where do you think the money iBill defrauded their clients out of went to?

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        • F-U-Jimmy
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2006
          • 6853

          #54
          The one place it didn't go was to the webmaster's who earned it. I did hear First Data kept quite a chunk. But its anyone guess
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          • MsCheyenne
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2005
            • 412

            #55
            Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
            The one place it didn't go was to the webmaster's who earned it. I did hear First Data kept quite a chunk. But its anyone guess
            Here is an article that anyone considering doing business with ibill should read:

            http://www.newyorkdailytimes.com/home.htm?m=ibill

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            • who
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2003
              • 19593

              #56
              Who is so dumb...

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              • CDSmith
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • May 2001
                • 51460

                #57
                Originally posted by who
                Who is so dumb...
                Don't put yourself down man. You're not that dumb.



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                • MsCheyenne
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                  • Mar 2005
                  • 412

                  #58
                  Originally posted by who
                  Who is so dumb...
                  Perhaps new web masters who do not know what went down a few years ago?

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                  • captainjapan.
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 90

                    #59
                    i use to work for that fucked up company, ibill. I've never heard of any of those names listed. i came way after all the bullshit went down. basically segpay was and still is the new ibill. all the crooks from ibill formed their own company and its called segpay. i only worked there 5 months. it was a total joke. i was in sales trying to drum up business, but mostly took calls from pissed off webmasters wanting to know where their money is. i was making really good money for doing nothing so i stuck around for 5 months. very shady people that worked there. jeezus.
                    i found out exactly what went down. basically all the upper management and sales people kept "paying themselves forward" is how i was told. they would keep all your money up front to put in their own pockets first then they thought they could "pay the webmasters next month" but they kept doing it month after month. sure they had their cars and huge houses. one guy who came back told me he was in sales and made like $25,000 a month for a few months straight and he bought not only himself but his mom a house too! and thats just a sales guy. God only know how much upper management was putting in their pockets.
                    So basically it all snowballed after a few years of paying themselves first and then its like "oops, we dont have any money left for our actual clients because we all put it in our pockets". Its nothing but total greed and robbery. I cant believe they got away with it actually. Its no different than robbing a bank. You webmasters probably already know this whole story though.

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                    • MsCheyenne
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 412

                      #60
                      Thanks. This is very interesting.

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                      • F-U-Jimmy
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                        • Apr 2006
                        • 6853

                        #61
                        Hey Cheyenne
                        Can i ask you in your Avatar are you holding some poor guys balls
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                        • rowan
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 17393

                          #62
                          Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                          I just called them. The man who answered the phone said that he was an orginal programmer from the "late Ibill." He said that the "new" Ibill bought the name/trademark but are a different company. When I asked him if using the "Ibill name" was turning out to be business suicide, he said it was actually the opposite. According to "this man" who answered the phone, web sites are doing business with them based on the Ibill name.
                          Wow.

                          I've seen ibill.net before but I figured someone snapped it then copied it from archive.org as a joke.

                          Wow.

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                          • JFK
                            FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 67373

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Loch
                            If any of them show up i wouldn't be stunned it something nasty went down.
                            seems to me last time they showed up at an event, they had security

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                            • Zester
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                              • Jul 2003
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                              #64
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                              • MaDalton
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                                • Feb 2004
                                • 39861

                                #65
                                Originally posted by captainjapan.
                                i use to work for that fucked up company, ibill. I've never heard of any of those names listed. i came way after all the bullshit went down. basically segpay was and still is the new ibill. all the crooks from ibill formed their own company and its called segpay. i only worked there 5 months. it was a total joke. i was in sales trying to drum up business, but mostly took calls from pissed off webmasters wanting to know where their money is. i was making really good money for doing nothing so i stuck around for 5 months. very shady people that worked there. jeezus.
                                i found out exactly what went down. basically all the upper management and sales people kept "paying themselves forward" is how i was told. they would keep all your money up front to put in their own pockets first then they thought they could "pay the webmasters next month" but they kept doing it month after month. sure they had their cars and huge houses. one guy who came back told me he was in sales and made like $25,000 a month for a few months straight and he bought not only himself but his mom a house too! and thats just a sales guy. God only know how much upper management was putting in their pockets.
                                So basically it all snowballed after a few years of paying themselves first and then its like "oops, we dont have any money left for our actual clients because we all put it in our pockets". Its nothing but total greed and robbery. I cant believe they got away with it actually. Its no different than robbing a bank. You webmasters probably already know this whole story though.
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                                • MediaGuy
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                                  • Sep 2004
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                                  #66
                                  So let's see a run down on these sites and companies running with them... maybe they're reputable Vuiton and Rolex duplicate dealers...

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                                  • F-U-Jimmy
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                                    • Apr 2006
                                    • 6853

                                    #67
                                    Bump to the first page
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                                    • Zester
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                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 5344

                                      #68
                                      i'm just waiting for websitebilling to show up again
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                                      • Lifer
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 871

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                        I dont believe the crap that these new IBILL ass hats spout for one micro second. When Iballs went down it spawned at least half a dozen clones. These clone companies where all started by ex Iballs employees. They all saw how Iballs was being run and how the Adult webmaster was being skinned alive. Im sure they thought to themselves, wow all those webmaster got taken for millions and no one did a thing about it, so I guess we can do the same.

                                        Take Smegpay and recent posts on GFY about them billing for tube site knowing full well that tube site profit from others stolen content. And when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar WTF did they do, try to wiggle out of it and when GFY would not let it die they termed the client. Im sure had GFY members not posted about this incident they would still be a client.

                                        I will never ever trust any company that was started by ex employees of IBALLS even if they just washed dishes there. They all seem to be tarred with the same brush. I seriously dont see why the onus is on the content owner to police every site on the web just to have his ? content removed from a site. Better that the processing company checks up front. CCBill does regular checks so why not Smegpay ?
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                                        • MsCheyenne
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                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 412

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                          Hey Cheyenne
                                          Can i ask you in your Avatar are you holding some poor guys balls
                                          Actually that is ClubDom's favorite fetish model, Jean Bardot, holding some guy's poor balls. Speaking of poor balls, this guy got off easy. lol.

                                          Cheyenne
                                          Last edited by MsCheyenne; 06-21-2009, 01:47 PM. Reason: spelling typo

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                                          • F-U-Jimmy
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2006
                                            • 6853

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                            Actually that is ClubDom's favorite fetish model, Jean Bardot, holding some guy's poor balls. Speaking of poor balls, this guy got off easy. lol.

                                            Cheyenne
                                            Ouch that makes me cringe, Cute girl
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                                            • Dodge2hot
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                                              • Sep 2005
                                              • 197

                                              #72
                                              Ok, so they are still in biz. Why don't the ones that they owe money to join together and nail their asses?

                                              I was one of the lucky ones that never had any dealings with them.
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                                              • Zester
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 5344

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Dodge2hot
                                                Ok, so they are still in biz. Why don't the ones that they owe money to join together and nail their asses?
                                                how ? do what exactly ?
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                                                • Juilan
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                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 15141

                                                  #74
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                                                  • american pervert
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                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 6840

                                                    #75
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                                                    • pornguy
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                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 62912

                                                      #76
                                                      Not good. A lot of people that DONT know about them will get screwed.
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                                                      • AmeliaG
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                                                        • Jan 2003
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                        you should have emailed them your avatar picture - maybe that would have helped
                                                        Ya know, Cheyenne, I've looked at your avatar over and over and just thought hot chick and did not process what you were doing
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                                                        • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                          • 6853

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                                          Not good. A lot of people that DONT know about them will get screwed.

                                                          Thats why it good to keep this on the first page, so at least a few newbees will see what a bunch of asshats Iballs is. It would be great if people who post on other boards make a link to this thread, that way we can cover more ground.

                                                          Looks like more than a few of the old Iballs staff are still running this new incarnation of online theft
                                                          icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                          • marzzo
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                                                            • May 2002
                                                            • 2134

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                                            Thats why it good to keep this on the first page, so at least a few newbees will see what a bunch of asshats Iballs is. It would be great if people who post on other boards make a link to this thread, that way we can cover more ground.

                                                            Looks like more than a few of the old Iballs staff are still running this new incarnation of online theft
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                                                            • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                              • 6853

                                                              #80
                                                              Bump Bitch
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                                                              • Nikki_Licks
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                                                                • May 2005
                                                                • 6323

                                                                #81
                                                                Back to the top so others can see the snake is back
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                                                                • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                  • Apr 2006
                                                                  • 6853

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Kick to the top
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                                                                  • tranza
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 57559

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                                                    Kick to the top
                                                                    Just helping
                                                                    I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                    • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                      • Apr 2006
                                                                      • 6853

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by tranza
                                                                      Just helping
                                                                      Thanks for the bump
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                                                                      • CamTraffic
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                                                                        #85
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                                                                        • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                          • 6853

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Nightly bump
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                                                                          • collegeboobies
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                            • 3644

                                                                            #87
                                                                            guess whos back guess whos back ibills back

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                                                                            • MsCheyenne
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                                                                              • Mar 2005
                                                                              • 412

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                                                              Ouch that makes me cringe, Cute girl
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                                                                              • Fabien
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                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 4789

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by captainjapan.
                                                                                i use to work for that fucked up company, ibill. I've never heard of any of those names listed. i came way after all the bullshit went down. basically segpay was and still is the new ibill. all the crooks from ibill formed their own company and its called segpay. i only worked there 5 months. it was a total joke. i was in sales trying to drum up business, but mostly took calls from pissed off webmasters wanting to know where their money is. i was making really good money for doing nothing so i stuck around for 5 months. very shady people that worked there. jeezus.
                                                                                i found out exactly what went down. basically all the upper management and sales people kept "paying themselves forward" is how i was told. they would keep all your money up front to put in their own pockets first then they thought they could "pay the webmasters next month" but they kept doing it month after month. sure they had their cars and huge houses. one guy who came back told me he was in sales and made like $25,000 a month for a few months straight and he bought not only himself but his mom a house too! and thats just a sales guy. God only know how much upper management was putting in their pockets.
                                                                                So basically it all snowballed after a few years of paying themselves first and then its like "oops, we dont have any money left for our actual clients because we all put it in our pockets". Its nothing but total greed and robbery. I cant believe they got away with it actually. Its no different than robbing a bank. You webmasters probably already know this whole story though.
                                                                                Exactly what i think happened ! (if all is real)

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                                                                                • Fabien
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 4789

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by MediaGuy
                                                                                  So let's see a run down on these sites and companies running with them... maybe they're reputable Vuiton and Rolex duplicate dealers...

                                                                                  :D

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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by stuckinflorida
                                                                                    2. They must not be very bright using the iBill name if they really want to sell to adult merchants.
                                                                                    About as bright as anyone who signs up for Ibill to process for them. Anyone that stupid is not going to be making a lot of money.

                                                                                    Originally posted by Loch
                                                                                    If any of them show up i wouldn't be stunned it something nasty went down.
                                                                                    Didn't they show up at a Las Vegas or Miami show a few years ago and no oe said diddly squat?

                                                                                    Maybe I'm thinking too far out the box but the thing that really amazes me is the banks and credit card companies who approved them to deal with other peoples money again.



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                                                                                    • Terrayx
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                                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                                      • 2

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Gonna write them 2 return my money lol

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                                                                                      • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                                        • Apr 2006
                                                                                        • 6853

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Terrayx
                                                                                        Gonna write them 2 return my money lol


                                                                                        Let us know how that works out for you !
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                                                                                        • trishauptown
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                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                          • 990

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Exactly what I was thinking

                                                                                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                          Class action suit?
                                                                                          My kind of girl!! I was just in Providence last weekend featuring at the Cadillac Ranch.

                                                                                          Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                                                                          I would happily forget about the 20k they took me for and even give them 20k on top of it if I could pop just one of the fucker's balls. 50k for both of the balls. Heck, if he was willing to sell his soul what could a couple of nuts mean to him?

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                                                                                          • MsCheyenne
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                                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                                            • 412

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by trishauptown
                                                                                            Exactly what I was thinking



                                                                                            My kind of girl!! I was just in Providence last weekend featuring at the Cadillac Ranch.
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                                                                                            • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 4090

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                                              I know someone who could do it. Whether he would or not is another matter. He goes by the name "Fightthispatent" on GFY, and at one time made it his mission to organize the collective fight against Acacia and their rather tyranical attempt to enforce a patent they'd purchased which involved video streaming. Do you recall it?

                                                                                              The guy is a machine when he sets his mind on a course.

                                                                                              Brandon, if you're reading this - fire up "Fightibill" and get busy rallying all those who got royally SCREWED OVER by this despicable POS company. :D

                                                                                              LOL.

                                                                                              the problem is that what moneys that were owed to webmasters, the liabilities were to the old iBill.. the new iBill, whether you think of it as segpay or ibill.net don't have the direct liability.

                                                                                              if there was fraud, then the corporate veil can be pierced and officers can be held liable.

                                                                                              you would need to fire up a class action lawsuit by some attorney who would try to uncover the muck.. once he's done that, and the court does find executives guilty, then collecting the judgment is another matter.. and then after some money was squeezed out of former cold ibill execs hands, the lawyer will probably take like 60%.... and the rest is split up among the defendants... and then since you probably claimed the money withheld from ibill as a loss on your corporate taxes, that you will then be taxed on the $5.32 that each plaintiff would receive.

                                                                                              it all just sux


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                                                                                              • GregE
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                                                                                                • Jul 2004
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                                                                                LOL.

                                                                                                the problem is that what moneys that were owed to webmasters, the liabilities were to the old iBill.. the new iBill, whether you think of it as segpay or ibill.net don't have the direct liability.

                                                                                                if there was fraud, then the corporate veil can be pierced and officers can be held liable.

                                                                                                you would need to fire up a class action lawsuit by some attorney who would try to uncover the muck.. once he's done that, and the court does find executives guilty, then collecting the judgment is another matter.. and then after some money was squeezed out of former cold ibill execs hands, the lawyer will probably take like 60%.... and the rest is split up among the defendants... and then since you probably claimed the money withheld from ibill as a loss on your corporate taxes, that you will then be taxed on the $5.32 that each plaintiff would receive.
                                                                                                If a class action lawsuit accomplishes nothing more than to personally impoverish a few iBill executives, well...... that's good enough for me

                                                                                                Go for it !

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                                                                                                • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                                  • 4090

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by GregE
                                                                                                  If a class action lawsuit accomplishes nothing more than to personally impoverish a few iBill executives, well...... that's good enough for me

                                                                                                  Go for it !
                                                                                                  To do this is alot of work, you have to first collect up the evidence by pulling all the possible plaintiffs (those that lost money). document everything and pitch it to class action attorneys to find one that will take it on contingency.

                                                                                                  the better the job that is done in documenting, the easier it will be for them to smell blood and want to take up the case.

                                                                                                  after that, its in their hands to go through the process.

                                                                                                  i do not have the time for this. there should be plenty of pissed off enough webmasters to take up this fight.


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                                                                                                  • CDSmith
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                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                    • 51460

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                                                                                    i do not have the time for this. there should be plenty of pissed off enough webmasters to take up this fight.
                                                                                                    If none of them have stepped up by now I doubt it's going to happen.

                                                                                                    You were the last hope.

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