Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?

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  • TheSenator
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2003
    • 13340

    #1

    Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?

    Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?


    Does anybody know this?

    I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months.
    ISeekGirls.com since 2005
  • Choker
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2001
    • 9024

    #2
    Originally posted by TheSenator
    Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?


    Does anybody know this?

    I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months.
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    • wargames
      Kliris
      • May 2003
      • 10423

      #3
      We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later.
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      • TheSenator
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Feb 2003
        • 13340

        #4
        Originally posted by wargames
        We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later.
        Ugg....

        There has to be a way around this
        ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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        • GTS Mark
          Vrume Mark
          • Jan 2001
          • 20912

          #5
          We haven't seen any issues this far doing it in the manner we're currently doing it. However I have heard some horror stories from site owners that are redirecting traffic to some of our competitors.

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          • Titan
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2002
            • 994

            #6
            We have been doing this for a while and I haven't seen any difference. If you have a teen tgp, blog, tube etc. I would redirect the traffic to a teen cash site.
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            • bdld
              $100,000
              • Dec 2001
              • 11452

              #7
              redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

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              • GTS Mark
                Vrume Mark
                • Jan 2001
                • 20912

                #8
                Originally posted by bdld
                redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.
                quoted for truth

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                • WiredGuy
                  Pounding Googlebot
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 34512

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bdld
                  redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.
                  Bingo... these days search engines don't like many forms of redirection that its better to keep them on a mobile version of your site.
                  WG
                  I play with Google.

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                  • TheSenator
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 13340

                    #10
                    What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress?
                    ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                    • TTiger
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 3030

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TheSenator
                      What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress?
                      some good stuff here
                      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WordPress+mobile

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                      • Iron Fist
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 23400

                        #12
                        search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations.
                        i like waffles

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                        • TheSenator
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 13340

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TTiger
                          I'm talking about experience....

                          nice try
                          ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                          • TheSenator
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 13340

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sharphead
                            search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations.
                            Basically, I don't wanna kill my traffic with Google for a few thousand dollars with mobile.


                            I am removing my re-directs and going with the best solution for wordpress mobile.


                            Also, I am look for sponsors who can carry my affiliate ID over to there mobile site for credit.
                            ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                            • Renegade Jeff
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 60

                              #15
                              Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network.

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                              • spacedog
                                Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 14149

                                #16
                                google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

                                place this in your header.

                                Code:
                                <link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />
                                This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

                                IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

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                                • spacedog
                                  Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                  • Nov 2001
                                  • 14149

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Renegade Jeff
                                  Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network.
                                  Wow.. He's not a smart one..

                                  Motorola mobile browser doesn?t support IFrames
                                  OpenWave doesn?t support IFrames
                                  BlackBerry 8700 running a 4.2.1 firmware does not support IFrames.
                                  BlackBerry 8830 running a 4.2.2 firmware also does not support IFrames
                                  Opera Mobile 8.5 does not support IFrames

                                  and a shitload of others do not support iframes.

                                  pretty much limits it to IEMobile and iPhone.

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                                  • RevShare it!
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2008
                                    • 667

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by spacedog
                                    google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

                                    place this in your header.

                                    Code:
                                    <link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />
                                    This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

                                    IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.
                                    Good info

                                    I will also add that on our own sites we have not seen any changes using our redirect nor heard anything from any affiliates using our redirect.

                                    Originally posted by TheSenator
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                                    • Jack Sparrow
                                      Almost goners..
                                      • May 2008
                                      • 11420

                                      #19
                                      Heard the same story more then once.
                                      The way around would be to setup a mobile version ON your domain, redirect it there.
                                      White.

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                                      • CaptainWolfy
                                        Playa
                                        • Dec 2005
                                        • 8439

                                        #20
                                        you should be just fine if you use this at the end of your redirect script:
                                        if($mobile_browser)
                                        {
                                        header('Cache-Control: no-transform');
                                        header('Vary: User-Agent, Accept');
                                        header("robots:noindex,nofollow");
                                        header('Location: '.$mobile_link);
                                        exit;
                                        }

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                                        • Agent 488
                                          Registered User
                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 22511

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by spacedog
                                          Google specifically tells you to do this.
                                          link?




                                          .

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                                          • TheDoc
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 13827

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by spacedog
                                            google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

                                            place this in your header.

                                            Code:
                                            <link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />
                                            This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

                                            IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.


                                            http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35312

                                            How does Google modify web pages for mobile viewing?
                                            Print

                                            Google Web Search on mobile phones allows users to search all the content in the Google index for desktop web browsers. Because this content isn't written specifically for mobile phones and devices and thus might not display properly, web search results are viewed through our transcoder, which analyzes the original HTML code and converts it to a mobile-ready format. To ensure that the highest quality and most useable web page is displayed on your mobile phone or device, Google may resize, adjust, or convert images, text formatting and/or certain aspects of web page functionality.

                                            If you do not want Google to transcode your web page, you may request that Google redirect the user to an alternate page whenever the user attempts to view the page through the transcoder. You can do so by including the following line in the <HEAD> section of the HTML file for your page:

                                            <link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="alternate_page.htm" />

                                            The alternate page should be a mobile-optimized version of the original page or a message informing the user that the site is not available on the phone.
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                                            It's all disambiguation

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                                            • Agent 488
                                              Registered User
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 22511

                                              #23
                                              ok thanks.

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                                              • FrozenJag
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2006
                                                • 1763

                                                #24
                                                If you do redirect i reccomend using no follow. Although I wouldnt reccomend redirecting whatsoever if your a big se baller.

                                                Instead display ad if its mobile user, and no ad displays if its not. (Like good size ad right under the header).

                                                Good luck.

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                                                  #25
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                                                  • Allison
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 2068

                                                    #26
                                                    TopBucks/PinkVisual has been around in the mobile game for a while (since 2007). Redirecting to another domain can be damaging if you have a good natural search engine listing. However, from keeping it on your domain or subdomain we see that there is no impact.

                                                    We offer whitelabels for mobile solutions that we handle fully on our end, that keep the traffic on your domain and don't put your natural search engine listings at risk.

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                                                    • tetsuo001100
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                      • 59

                                                      #27
                                                      but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right?

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                                                      • fuzebox
                                                        making it rain
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 22353

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tetsuo001100
                                                        but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right?
                                                        I know it's been a few days, but bump to get some more input on this. It's been my understanding that google won't penalize the javascript redirects as well.

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                                                        • fuzebox
                                                          making it rain
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 22353

                                                          #29
                                                          bump because I liked this discussion.

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                                                          • daemonx
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                            • 79

                                                            #30
                                                            I played with it for about a month on one of my TGPs which has pretty decent traffic from Google. At first I tried redirecting directly to a sponsors site. In a few days my Google traffic was down by 80%. The traffic picked up once I removed the redirect.

                                                            Then I created a mobile landing page on a sub domain and kept redirecting to the landing page for about 2 weeks with no changes in SE traffic. Now I'm using a white label created by TopBucks on a sub domain of one of my sites and am happy with the results. Gonna get the guys create mobile white labels for all of my sites now.

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