who has a Canon 5D and do you think its better then the 20D?
who has a Canon 5D ?
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yes, 5D is night and day better in my opinion - I still use my 20D for fast hit and run type of shots or when shooting production stills but the better quality is definately 5D - I can use it for print ad work. any other questions venus just email me - I dont follow threads usually like this.Comment
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5D is much better then the 20D... and they both suck compaired to the D200Comment
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This is what I use, if your going to do it do it right. For the money it gets no better than this, of course its the lens that makes the difference, not the camera itself if your allready purchasing in the top end.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ial_s%26sa%3DGComment
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Actually, it's the photographer that makes the difference.
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Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.Comment
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I dont know what you know, but the lighting is exactly what the light meter said to use, and the photo works for my members, maybe not yours, but mine are more then happy
and no I did not use "smart blur" what ever that is, so I am guessing you do not know as much as you want to know.
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well, I had to see what an expert like you did in the way of photography, and by the looks of th epics on the front of your site, I would agree with you... what do you know.... before you talk about lighting, get yours right.
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now lets see Mike has two avns, shoots for Genesis magazine. Actually Mike has done a bunch of print work. I think the problem with that pic the girl is too close to the background.Comment
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You may discount my critique if you like...I don't care but the fact is I shoot magazine layouts for many major publications including Genesis, Hustler and tons more. What I do on my sites is intentionally amateurish.
If you aren't open to learn how to be better you won't get any better.
first of all learn to shoot good photos without using photoshop then learn to use photoshop to make them a bit better without evidence that they were photoshopped.
Technically theres about a zillion things wrong with that pic including the composition (learn the rule of thirds)
You subject is under exposed but at least a half stop
The book case looks as though its on the side of a hill....always compose your shots with straight edges straight up and down or across.
have your model wear colors that compliment the background and when she wears stockings make sure they are the same height on both legs
shall I continue?Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.Comment
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It does not matter what he has, if whats on the front of the sites in his sig is his work then he should reconsider talking about bad lighting. I know guys who shoot for muscle and fitness, muscle mag and other magazines, one guy I know wrote a book on nude physique shooting, does it mean his work is good, no, personally I dont like his style, I know because I let him shoot me once... but because I don't like it means nothing and it shouldn't.
When taking pics, everyone is different, some people like black and white, some like to cooler colors, some like warmer, some use more light some less, everyone is different, for me to say I dont like his shots means nothing, if he likes them and his customers thats what matters, the same goes with others, if the person shooting it like it, their customers like it then why the need to flame someone.
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Mike is old and crusty lol Here you go http://www.photosig.com/go/photos you can search and see pics by lens, by camera, by f stop , etc. Lots of stuff to compare. Venus when I need my next workout plan , I think you should do one for me considering the wealth of info I am lolIt does not matter what he has, if whats on the front of the sites in his sig is his work then he should reconsider talking about bad lighting. I know guys who shoot for muscle and fitness, muscle mag and other magazines, one guy I know wrote a book on nude physique shooting, does it mean his work is good, no, personally I dont like his style, I know because I let him shoot me once... but because I don't like it means nothing and it shouldn't.
When taking pics, everyone is different, some people like black and white, some like to cooler colors, some like warmer, some use more light some less, everyone is different, for me to say I dont like his shots means nothing, if he likes them and his customers thats what matters, the same goes with others, if the person shooting it like it, their customers like it then why the need to flame someone.Comment
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Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.Comment
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Interesting how Venus gets soo massivly defensive so quick.
I'm starting to think it's steriod rage.
people - and animals - that have done too many steriods tend to get over agressive when they feel cornered. They lash out.
we've sceen it soo many time from her on here it's pretty obvious it's a textbook case.
She's a bright girl but she's TOTALLY incapable of constructive critizesm - soo much soo that it's not normal - to the extent that it has to have some sort of chemical basis to it. I'd put my money on steroids....
but what do I know - Venus will obviously debunk this but folks - think about it - seriously. would explain a lot about her.
thoughts? (other than Venus - we already know your answer)
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Truthfully? No, there isnt much there to brag about there, even you still have a lot to learn judging by your work. Dont get me wrong, your a good photographer, but now days with the technology that we have this doesnt take anything special anymore and anyone that picks up a cam can be shooting in no time and selling content or creating it for sites easily. Her photography allthough needs a little work isnt bad at all and would work just fine for her members area.You may discount my critique if you like...I don't care but the fact is I shoot magazine layouts for many major publications including Genesis, Hustler and tons more. What I do on my sites is intentionally amateurish.
If you aren't open to learn how to be better you won't get any better.
first of all learn to shoot good photos without using photoshop then learn to use photoshop to make them a bit better without evidence that they were photoshopped.
Technically theres about a zillion things wrong with that pic including the composition (learn the rule of thirds)
You subject is under exposed but at least a half stop
The book case looks as though its on the side of a hill....always compose your shots with straight edges straight up and down or across.
have your model wear colors that compliment the background and when she wears stockings make sure they are the same height on both legs
shall I continue?
The way you do things will not always work for everyone else. Its not your photography thats making you look bad to her, its the layout and design and the fact that you have not invested the money to hire a proper designer to compliment your work because honestly, the graphics on your site are terrible. My comment is in no way meant to insult you but if you want to have bragging rights and be able to offer advice and actually have people listen then you have to present what you offer with an airtight presentation.Comment
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Most bodybuilders are very insecure. Especially around power lifters.
Interesting how Venus gets soo massivly defensive so quick.
I'm starting to think it's steriod rage.
people - and animals - that have done too many steriods tend to get over agressive when they feel cornered. They lash out.
we've sceen it soo many time from her on here it's pretty obvious it's a textbook case.
She's a bright girl but she's TOTALLY incapable of constructive critizesm - soo much soo that it's not normal - to the extent that it has to have some sort of chemical basis to it. I'd put my money on steroids....
but what do I know - Venus will obviously debunk this but folks - think about it - seriously. would explain a lot about her.
thoughts? (other than Venus - we already know your answer)

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I aint insulted ...I have a formula for my sites that works very well. Thats all that counts...see when you have an amateur site that professionally designed it doesnt look amateur anymore does it? The surfers all think its the same shit they get everyplace else...go figure...Truthfully? No, there isnt much there to brag about there, even you still have a lot to learn judging by your work. Dont get me wrong, your a good photographer, but now days with the technology that we have this doesnt take anything special anymore and anyone that picks up a cam can be shooting in no time and selling content or creating it for sites easily. Her photography allthough needs a little work isnt bad at all and would work just fine for her members area.
The way you do things will not always work for everyone else. Its not your photography thats making you look bad to her, its the layout and design and the fact that you have not invested the money to hire a proper designer to compliment your work because honestly, the graphics on your site are terrible. My comment is in no way meant to insult you but if you want to have bragging rights and be able to offer advice and actually have people listen then you have to present what you offer with an airtight presentation.Mike South
It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.Comment
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Hey man if its working for you fair enough.I aint insulted ...I have a formula for my sites that works very well. Thats all that counts...see when you have an amateur site that professionally designed it doesnt look amateur anymore does it? The surfers all think its the same shit they get everyplace else...go figure...
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There's something too that. I know a few body builders here - provinical amateur level but champions... So long as you're agreeing with them, they're fine. And all the ones I know LIVE for complements on everything - their brains, their body, their work, etc
heaven forbid disagree with them. They can't handle thatThis dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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So do you think she's typing up a woozy right now?There's something too that. I know a few body builders here - provinical amateur level but champions... So long as you're agreeing with them, they're fine. And all the ones I know LIVE for complements on everything - their brains, their body, their work, etc
heaven forbid disagree with them. They can't handle that
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This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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I have to disagree. I've given Venus advice a number of times and she's always been very nice and respectful. I think she's very capable of constructive criticism. The problem is that Mike South's comments were not "constructive". Mike says...."well lets see you overused photoshop smart blur and your lighting is bad...the photo doesn't "pop" as we say in the biz". I don't see Mike's comment as being constructive. A "constructive" comment would have been to tell her what was wrong with her lighting. Give her something that she can use and grow from. Telling someone that they have "bad lighting" is not constructive. Telling them they have bad lighting and then telling them how to improve it - now we are talking constructive criticism
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obviously you read what I said about positive comments aboveI have to disagree. I've given Venus advice a number of times and she's always been very nice and respectful. I think she's very capable of constructive criticism. The problem is that Mike South's comments were not "constructive". Mike says...."well lets see you overused photoshop smart blur and your lighting is bad...the photo doesn't "pop" as we say in the biz". I don't see Mike's comment as being constructive. A "constructive" comment would have been to tell her what was wrong with her lighting. Give her something that she can use and grow from. Telling someone that they have "bad lighting" is not constructive. Telling them they have bad lighting and then telling them how to improve it - now we are talking constructive criticism
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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you gave her advice on this board and she was very nice and respectfull?
please show me because i don't believe it
I have to disagree. I've given Venus advice a number of times and she's always been very nice and respectful. I think she's very capable of constructive criticism. The problem is that Mike South's comments were not "constructive". Mike says...."well lets see you overused photoshop smart blur and your lighting is bad...the photo doesn't "pop" as we say in the biz". I don't see Mike's comment as being constructive. A "constructive" comment would have been to tell her what was wrong with her lighting. Give her something that she can use and grow from. Telling someone that they have "bad lighting" is not constructive. Telling them they have bad lighting and then telling them how to improve it - now we are talking constructive criticism
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I don't care if you believe it or not. Constructive criticism is called "constructive" for a reason. If your going to critique someones work, tell them whats wrong with it and then tell them how to fix it. In fact, the definition of "constructive" is..."promoting improvement or development". Now read back over Mike South's first statement and show me how what he said would promote improvement or dvelopment in Venus's work.
Mike's comment was not constructive criticism but merely his opinion of the picture. Big difference
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