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  • Thumbelina
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    #51
    12 clicks I am not saying that it is a fucked up religion but I think is as much a cultural problem as a religious one .

    They do go hand in hand.......
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    • spacedog
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      #52
      Originally posted by nxixnxo
      hilter (a christian).....


      WRONG!!
      Hitler was a jew....


      Hey.. This is the USA & everyone's entitled to equal treatment..
      The muslims are no exception & should abide by the same rules as the rest of us...No way should the USA give one group of people special treatment..
      YES, the US guarantees freedom of religion, but we shouldnt have to change the way things work to accomodate of facilitate the practice of a particular custom or religion...


      Furthermore, after the events of 9/11/01 .. NO FUCKING WAY should they allow these rag wearing bitches to wear their masks..

      It's a security issue..
      Do these ingrates really think that if they go to the airport & the customs agent say's "S'cuse me m'aam, may I see identification" that they will not require them to remove their veil for positive ID!


      That's a HUGE security risk... HUGE!


      Here's a scenario...

      Woman A is a law abiding muslim citizen or resident of USA.. has ID with her masque.... No problem there...

      Now, we have Woman B... Al Queda Network Terrorist..
      she gets access to Woman A's ID.. she wears mask.. No one knows... Hmmm.... She would be able to get through security.....


      We should not accomodate these fuckers wish's



      One bad apple ruins it for the whole bushel..

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      • ldinternet
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        #53
        Originally posted by spacedog
        WRONG!!
        Hitler was a jew....
        Are you taking the fucking piss?

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        • spacedog
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          #54
          Originally posted by ldinternet


          Are you taking the fucking piss?

          Huh?

          What do you mean, am I taking the fucking piss?

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          • ldinternet
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            #55
            Hint: Unless you didn't realise, you just said that Hitler was Jewish.

            Originally posted by spacedog
            WRONG!!
            Hitler was a jew....
            Last edited by ldinternet; 01-31-2002, 12:18 PM.

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            • onlyreal
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              #56
              ehhe what religion he was believing

              but i read a jew fuck him when he was child and this is the reason why he hates jews

              Originally posted by ldinternet
              Hint: Unless you didn't realise, you just said that Hitler was Jewish.

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              • Theo
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                #57

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                • boneprone
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                  #58
                  The bitch needs to recognize that Driving is a Privilege
                  not a right.

                  Thats what the Judge told me anyhow!

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                  • orco
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                    #59
                    Ask some American servicemen who served in Desert Storm stationed in Riyadh what they think about muslims and arabs and you'd be surprised by their perspective I'm sure. Many of them learned via experience that reality sharply differs with what agenda driven propaganda you see.

                    Catholicism has many of it's own faults as does Judaism, but you don't like to mention the atrocities of the Spanish Inquisition, America in the Phillipines or worse yet; the Isreali's ongoing genocide of it's neighbors. Which coincidentally is only made possible because of the United States political interest, but I digress. The point being you know little about the facts and only what your pompous ass wants to hold as truths. Your attitude and arrogance only exemplifies the true nature of the powers that be; and hence the reason they have become a target of response for supporting, aiding, and effectively participating in the massacre of a race. If any other ethnicity in the world fights oppressors, for their own right to live, for their right to exist .... we call them Revolutionaries. Yet if they are arab they are a terrorist? It's called hypocricy... and when you use it in such a way that it directly causes and prolongs the suffrage and genocide of a race; you are the true "evil".

                    The religeon of islam is based on peace more so than any other in the world. It's why it's the largest religeon in the world because of the fact; it's not based on placing belief in external entities as much as it is about self purification and self embetterment. The argument with regards to them being a religeon of hate is the most ignorant statement anyone could make.

                    Rest assured if the U.S. in the future ever found itself in a similar position hypotheticly; where an alternative "super power" ( for example, Russia or China ) gave the financial backing, military force, and full support levied in the form of vetoing U.N. resolutions for the end of an occupation of the US homeland by say, Canada ... where they were bulldozing your homes, shooting your 12 year old daughters in the head, stealing all of your businesses and land that the United Nations said belonged to you, killing people at will without facing any repricussions and making Americans live in near Aparthide conditions ....

                    there would be tons of American people lacing up their sneakers with C4 to hit them mutherfuckers where it counts. Bet your ass they would be.

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                    • [Labret]
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                      #60

                      Freeman, a former evangelist preacher, converted to Islam about five years ago.


                      Fucking bitch is an American convert.

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                      • boneprone
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                        #61
                        Its sad to see a religion that was based on peace fall soo off track to become a politiacal movement of hate.

                        Its a sad time in Islam when Muslims become the most Un-Islamic people.

                        The religion has fallen soo off its track, and these politcal Mullahs and Tyrants are redefining the perception and image of the religion over night.. Then you got this chick in Florida pulling shit like this in a time like this for attention and a political gain for herself.

                        The original purpose of that head vail is to have humulity, and not draw attention. Looks like she blew that one. She's got more eyes and attetnion towards her now than Jenna Jameson does.
                        And they are all eyes of hate.. Nice job lady! Good example of a Muslim she has become, and another great way to promote the religion properly!

                        Talk about falling off the Islamic wagon of faith. These people have evolved the religion to thier own liking and political agendas.
                        Its become more of a politcal movement than a religion. And these leaders brain wash the people that its Islams duty and so forth.

                        It seems thoughout history you see this mistake made with all religions. It just blows my fucking mind. Simply Fucked up is all I can say. Stupid fucking people all around.

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                        • spacedog
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by ldinternet
                          Hint: Unless you didn't realise, you just said that Hitler was Jewish.


                          He was jewish.... didn't you know that?
                          His born name was Hiemmler..



                          He hated himself....

                          He was a failure..

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                          • [Labret]
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by spacedog



                            He hated himself....

                            He was a failure..
                            Hitler went from an obscure political party leader of a nation absolutely devastated militarily and financially by WW1, went on to dominate Europe, and was only stopped by the Russian winter and a concerted effort by the Allies.

                            Hardly a failure. May have failed in his goals, but given what he had to work with, and what he accomplished in a short period of time, the man was hardly a failure.

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                            • spacedog
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                              • Nov 2001
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by [Labret]


                              Hitler went from an obscure political party leader of a nation absolutely devastated militarily and financially by WW1, went on to dominate Europe, and was only stopped by the Russian winter and a concerted effort by the Allies.

                              Hardly a failure. May have failed in his goals, but given what he had to work with, and what he accomplished in a short period of time, the man was hardly a failure.

                              He hated himself because he was a failure as an architecht & artist prior to his becoming chancellor...

                              And, yes he was still a failure.. He didnt finish the job!!

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                              • Sleepy
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by orco

                                we call them Revolutionaries. Yet if they are arab they are a terrorist? It's called hypocricy... and when you use it in such a way that it directly causes and prolongs the suffrage and genocide of a race; you are the true "evil".

                                The religeon of islam is based on peace more so than any other in the world. It's why it's the largest religeon in the world

                                Rest assured if the U.S. in the future ever found itself in a similar position hypotheticly; where an alternative "super power" ( for example, Russia or China ) gave the financial backing, military force, and full support levied in the form of vetoing U.N. resolutions for the end of an occupation of the US homeland by say, Canada ... where they were bulldozing your homes, shooting your 12 year old daughters in the head, stealing all of your businesses and land that the United Nations said belonged to you, killing people at will without facing any repricussions and making Americans live in near Aparthide conditions ....

                                there would be tons of American people lacing up their sneakers with C4 to hit them mutherfuckers where it counts. Bet your ass they would be.

                                I will address each paragraph you posted in order.

                                Paragraph #1.
                                The definition of Terrorist is "The essence of the activity-the use of, or threat to use, violence against civilians".

                                The definition of a Revolutionary is a person that causes very profound, tangible and real changes in the concept, the administration and the attitude of government in a country.

                                Osama is a Terrorist because he attacks civilians. Its not hypocricy, those are the literal meanings of the words.

                                Paragraph #2
                                The religion of Islam is the 3rd largest religion, not the 1st. Size has nothing to do with the quality of a religion. Assuming your religion is the largest because its yours, is a good example of being pompous.

                                From the 1998 "Information Please Almanac".
                                Christianity: 1,955,229,000 members
                                Atheism: 1,782,809,000 members
                                Muslims: 1,126,325,000 members
                                Roman Catholics : 981,465,000 members
                                Protestants : 404,020,000 members
                                Orthodox : 218,350,000 members
                                Anglicans : 69,136,000 members
                                Other Christians : 282,258,000 members

                                Paragraph #3
                                If we were to go to war with Canada it would be because of political reasons or a something similiar. We would not go to war with Canada due to religion because we have seperation of Church and State. Your comparisons are feeble at best. These Muslim countries are at war because of their Muslim religion. They attack us because of their perverted understanding of Muslim religion. Bottom line is that alot of people die because of Muslim religion and when the word terrorist is used the word Muslim usually follows. The association between the two is not an accident.

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                                • ldinternet
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by spacedog
                                  He was jewish.... didn't you know that?
                                  His born name was Hiemmler..
                                  He hated himself....
                                  He was a failure..
                                  Incorrect. Don't try to bullshit me... I studied this shit for 3 years from '96 to '99. Don't try to justify it, because you're wrong. Adolf Hitler was Austrian, a failed artist and wrote Mein Kampf whilst imprisoned for the failed Beer Hall Putsch.

                                  Besides numerous Anti-Semitic statements, he also made numerous statements against Christianity. ""So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death" -- Adolf Hitler, 14 Oct '41. One of the reasons of the persecution of Jews was because of a strain on the economy in WWII-era Germany. They sent 10% of their earnings back to the mother-land of Isreal. Concentration Camps started out simply to imprison Jews but this grew to bigger things as time passed.

                                  The word "hiemmler" doesn't even appear on Google, a spider with 2,073,418,204 pages indexed.

                                  The closed thing is Heinrich Himmler... and Heinrich Himmler was not Adolf Hitler, he was head of the Gestapo. He poisoned himself in May '45 to escape trial by the allies.

                                  And that's a fact
                                  http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Hol...hitlerjew.html

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                                  • [Labret]
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by spacedog



                                    He hated himself because he was a failure as an architecht & artist prior to his becoming chancellor...

                                    And, yes he was still a failure.. He didnt finish the job!!
                                    We all know your life story. People who live in glass houses.

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                                    • spacedog
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by ldinternet


                                      Incorrect. Don't try to bullshit me... I studied this shit for 3 years from '96 to '99. Don't try to justify it, because you're wrong. Adolf Hitler was Austrian, a failed artist and wrote Mein Kampf whilst imprisoned for the failed Beer Hall Putsch.

                                      Besides numerous Anti-Semitic statements, he also made numerous statements against Christianity. ""So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death" -- Adolf Hitler, 14 Oct '41. One of the reasons of the persecution of Jews was because of a strain on the economy in WWII-era Germany. They sent 10% of their earnings back to the mother-land of Isreal. Concentration Camps started out simply to imprison Jews but this grew to bigger things as time passed.

                                      The word "hiemmler" doesn't even appear on Google, a spider with 2,073,418,204 pages indexed.

                                      The closed thing is Heinrich Himmler... and Heinrich Himmler was not Adolf Hitler, he was head of the Gestapo. He poisoned himself in May '45 to escape trial by the allies.

                                      And that's a fact
                                      http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Hol...hitlerjew.html

                                      Hitler was jewish...
                                      That is my final answer!!!!
                                      Last edited by spacedog; 01-31-2002, 02:30 PM.

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                                      • ldinternet
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                                        #69
                                        What's that smell?

                                        Cows? Sheep? No... it's space dogshit.

                                        You're a fuckin' liar. Prove that Hitler was Jewish.

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                                        • boneprone
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                                          #70
                                          Yeah, in high school I was taught that Hitler himslef was Jewish.

                                          No Bullshit.

                                          I think its true. Unless our teachers were mislead?

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                                          • spacedog
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by ldinternet
                                            What's that smell?

                                            Cows? Sheep? No... it's space dogshit.

                                            You're a fuckin' liar. Prove that Hitler was Jewish.

                                            I am of German descent...
                                            My grandfather was imprisoned in october of 1924 at Landsberg Am Lech... He told me that Hitler was jewish.. He said he knew him...

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                                            • ldinternet
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                                              #72
                                              Grrr... quit fucking around, Boner.

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                                              • ldinternet
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by spacedog



                                                I am of German descent...
                                                My grandfather was imprisoned in october of 1924 at Landsberg Am Lech... He told me that Hitler was jewish.. He said he knew him...
                                                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!

                                                Oh fuck, I just shit myself.
                                                Last edited by ldinternet; 01-31-2002, 02:37 PM.

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                                                • Chris R
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                                                  #74
                                                  It is a common rumor, but never proven.

                                                  http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html

                                                  Apparently this was started by Hitler's lawyer. Whether it is true or not, no one has ever proven. Little is known about his family background (compared to most people).

                                                  I heard it in school too, they also told us that there were studies that proved people acted differently during a full moon (common misconception that has been DISPROVEN by numerous studies). There are tons of things like this floating around. Most of them are not true - this is the greatest true one I think:

                                                  http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a990820.html

                                                  The Hitler/Jew thing is one of the greatest urban legends of all times. It falls in the category of unproven. It COULD be true, but is it?

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                                                  • spacedog
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                                                    #75
                                                    Idinternet! Go get some toilet paper you scat !

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                                                    • Chris R
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                                                      #76
                                                      The greatest urban legend that probably most people believe is that Suicides happen more during the holidays. I bet at least 75% of people believe this one. NOT TRUE.

                                                      Many, Many people "learned" the Hitler thing in school.

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                                                      • boneprone
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                                                        #77
                                                        Seriously I always though Hitler himself was a Jew! That was the Irony behind the whole thing!

                                                        Shit, in High school thats what they really taught us!
                                                        Serious!

                                                        Were they feeding us Bullshit Urban Legend? They were telling us as if it were fact. Proven Fact! Now im wondering what else this public shcool of mine taught me that was urban legend..


                                                        They also told us Man never really landed on the moon. Did he really?

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                                                        • Chris R
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                                                          #78
                                                          Yes he did - man really did land on the moon. I was there.

                                                          Ok the second part I made up.

                                                          I thought the Hitler thing was true too, as we were tought that in Middle School, it was only later I found out it was a legend. Still possible, but not proven.

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                                                          • spacedog
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                                                            #79
                                                            Of course there's men on the moon...
                                                            Who do you think makes those faces ??

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                                                            • Headless
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                              If you can't live in peace with your nieghbors, you shouldn't be able to live at all.
                                                              Hell Yeah!

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                                                              • ldinternet
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by Chris R
                                                                The Hitler/Jew thing is one of the greatest urban legends of all times. It falls in the category of unproven. It COULD be true, but is it?
                                                                ^ See the link that I posted above ^

                                                                If Hitler *was* a Jew, he wasn't a Jew... if you know what I mean, lol. In the same manner, the fact that Hitler's mother may have been a Christian/Jew, whatever, doesn't make him a Christian also. Any relation to Judaism was totally insignificant due to the fact that it wasn't Hitler himself that was a Jew, rather, his great grandparents or an even earlier generation. I'm sure he wan't a genealogy fanatic.

                                                                He never practiced Judaism, just the same way as I don't practice Shintoism, therefore he's not Jewish and I'm not a Shintoist. No 'jokes' about 'shitoism' please, thats so fuckin' lame.

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                                                                • -=HOAX=-
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  I won't even bother to read half the post in here..but I notice a few things purported to be muslim rhetoric...and since I have read the koran I can tell you this...these are the rules under which a jihad may be waged....


                                                                  1st, the koran states that a jihad may only be waged in such a manner that no women, children nor the elderly may be harmed in any manner.

                                                                  2nd, a jihad may only be waged in such a manner that no structures (builings, temples, etc) may be damaged.

                                                                  3rd, a jihad may only be waged in such a manner that no plant or tree carrying even one green leaf may be harmed.

                                                                  I think there are others too, but those I do not remember well enough to quote.

                                                                  The fact remains that the muslim religion is not inherently an anti-western nor warlike religion. The reason there are so many militant muslims (although in my opinion they are equally as warlike as most any other major religion) is the fact that in the poverty of those eastern countries an unplaceable anger grows as a result of being denied the basics of human rights. This anger is harvested and manipulated by the Bin Laden's of the world. They mold it into a hatred of western ideals and customs, and diguise it as Allah's Rhetoric. As far as the muslim religion goes...The Water is pure, it is the Glass that is stained...


                                                                  just my 2¢...
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                                                                  • ldinternet
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    Boneprone, if you have kids, you should keep them away from that garden shed of a high school... and NASA. Lol.

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                                                                    • Dopy
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Spacedog calm down LOL

                                                                      You must understand that ldinternet is superior, our British education standards are much higher than yours.

                                                                      Please, know your place on the ladder


                                                                      BTW - Hitler was a Muslim

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                                                                      • sternyduke
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        yeah when i was in highschool i heard hitler was jew too ...but who knows.

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                                                                        • Chris R
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          ldinternet,

                                                                          Oh I surely agree he wasn't a PRACTICING Jew. I don't think anyone would argue with that. I meant it as a Jewish Blood type thing. Many times people refer to Judiasm in this was. He loks jewish - things like that. Of course, this is kind of like saying someone looks african-american - how do you know they are American - did you check his passport? People are afraid to say "black", do these people still give the same description when vacationing in England,
                                                                          "Our waiter, did you see him?"
                                                                          "What did he look like"
                                                                          "The African-American Gentleman"

                                                                          I would crack up with laughter.

                                                                          Anyway, to many people - if your last name is Goldstein - you are Jewish - even if you go to Mass every week. Most people mean it as a term of ancestry - rather than religion. Of course, you are correct, he wasn't Jewish AT ALL from the religious sense. Also, I doubt the Nazis would let Jacob Goldstein go - even if he practiced Christianity, although I do not know for sure.

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                                                                          • Dopy
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Quote Jewish Chronicle

                                                                            One of the most frequently asked questions we receive is whether Adolf Hitler was Jewish or had ancestors who were. The idea seems to arise from the remote possibility that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Hitler's father, Alois, was registered as an illegitimate child with no father. Alois' mother worked in the home of a wealthy Jew and there is some chance a son in that household got the woman (i.e., Hitler's grandmother) pregnant. Adolf Hitler was not Jewish.

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                                                                            • onlyreal
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Jewish or not



                                                                              just wanna add he selected man of the years two times by Time Magazine

                                                                              i think he was one of the biggest commnaders world ever seen.
                                                                              if hero russians(read stalingrad defence see the heroince of russians) didnot stop and if he was not sick and let his panzers to go normandia and stop normandia landing

                                                                              yep he will be the first commander conquered the world

                                                                              Originally posted by [Labret]


                                                                              Hitler went from an obscure political party leader of a nation absolutely devastated militarily and financially by WW1, went on to dominate Europe, and was only stopped by the Russian winter and a concerted effort by the Allies.

                                                                              Hardly a failure. May have failed in his goals, but given what he had to work with, and what he accomplished in a short period of time, the man was hardly a failure.
                                                                              Last edited by onlyreal; 01-31-2002, 03:15 PM.

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                                                                              • ldinternet
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Chris R
                                                                                Oh I surely agree he wasn't a PRACTICING Jew. I don't think anyone besides spacedog would argue with that.
                                                                                I concur.

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                                                                                • Chris R
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Osama bin Laden was the first choice for last year, but Time Warner caved into the pressure and made Rudolph Giuliani. You still know who hitler was. Will people know who Rudolph Giuliani is 60 years from now? I doubt it.

                                                                                  It is amazing how yellow the media becomes in times of tragedy. Don't get me wrong - I think he did a great job, but so could many other men and women.

                                                                                  People try to pretend Osama bin Laden won't change our way of life. They think by giving him "Man of the Year" that it is insulting to the lives of the people he took. I think it is insulting to those with a brain to pretend that evil does not exist in the world - and that some of these people have a great impact on our lives.

                                                                                  Anyone that travels by airplane now - is effected by Osama bin Laden. Even if you don't - you still are. He is the one man for better or worse that has changed our lives the most in the past year. It ulting to believe that if Rudolph Giuliani never lived - that New York would not have been able to survive.

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                                                                                  • orco
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 64

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Sleepy;


                                                                                    "The definition of Terrorist is "The essence of the activity-the use of, or threat to use, violence against civilians".
                                                                                    The definition of a Revolutionary is a person that causes very profound, tangible and real changes in the concept, the administration and the attitude of government in a country.
                                                                                    Osama is a Terrorist because he attacks civilians. Its not hypocricy, those are the literal meanings of the words. "

                                                                                    Firstly the people that are being defended and trying to fight oppressors are kept without a structured political power, and hence any military force to combat another nation either politically or militarily. So, this being the case while they are being slaughtered their response should be considered "unethical" ?
                                                                                    The fact is they don't have a choice in the matter .. it's either respond the way they do or sit and die. It doesn't justify by any means however the unfortunate thing is they have no alternative but to await their demise. Anyone in that situation reacts accordingly.

                                                                                    With regards to whether or not they are revolutionary or terrorists; the line is not that black and white. Che Gueverra is one of the most prominent revolutionaries in recent memory and he's regarded by right wing bible wielding US-centric racists as merely a killer because of course in their mind; the people in South America, Bolivia etc had no right to fight for their lives.
                                                                                    Similarly after years of the long arm of the U.S. being able to oppress and watch as these people are slaughtered, they RESPOND to our actions and policy and we act as if it was unprovoked.

                                                                                    "The religion of Islam is the 3rd largest religion, not the 1st. Size has nothing to do with the quality of a religion. Assuming your religion is the largest because its yours, is a good example of being pompous. "

                                                                                    That was a typo; what was intended to be written was that Islam is the largest growing religeon in the world. Which I only stated to support the fact that it's widely supported and embraced because of it's self embetterment foundation.

                                                                                    " If we were to go to war with Canada it would be because of political reasons or a something similiar. We would not go to war with Canada due to religion because we have seperation of Church and State. Your comparisons are feeble at best. These Muslim countries are at war because of their Muslim religion. They attack us because of their perverted understanding of Muslim religion. Bottom line is that alot of people die because of Muslim religion and when the word terrorist is used the word Muslim usually follows. The association between the two is not an accident."

                                                                                    You are wrong... the analogy was that another country backed and supported a country that invaded the US ... regardless of religeon. The Isreali occupation of Palestine and massacre of it's people is actually happenstance that they are different religeons. The point is it's a racist regime, unlawfully occupying another land despite clear U.N. resolutions and boundaries... and given the go ahead to kill and place these people in such a horrid life. And now when they respond to that you claim they are fighting because of their "religeon"? They are being oppressed .. period. And any animosity towards the United States is because of it's participation in the onslaught of the people, NOT any perversion of their perspective of Islam. That's like Afghans saying the people in their country are being killed because of the U.S.' disillusioned bible thumping Christian government who wants to cleanse the world of non conformists. And if you don't think the U.S. participates then you seriously don't have a clue about the reality of these issues and shouldn't even be speaking on them.

                                                                                    You wonder why the word "terrorist" is usually followed by "muslim" ... it's because in the arab world right now, "death" and "suffrage" is followed by the "Isreal / U.S." tag team.

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                                                                                    • Chris R
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 1151

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      ldinternet,

                                                                                      I actually didn't notice your editing job until the second time I went through the messages

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                                                                                      • spacedog
                                                                                        Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                                        • 14149

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        I just saw that too...
                                                                                        I never said he was a practicing jew, just said he was a jew..

                                                                                        idinternet..lol...

                                                                                        I wouldn't argue with that..
                                                                                        I'd just make you shit some more...

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                                                                                        • Sleepy
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                          • 679

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Orco, I cant dispute much of your post because you changed the root of the argument
                                                                                          while also implying alternate meanings to your previous posts. Your now saying that they
                                                                                          ARE technically terrorists but they have a good reason ? Are you also telling me that
                                                                                          terrorism is excusable on their part because they are too uncivilized to form a stable
                                                                                          government ?

                                                                                          You say they have no choice ( I assume Afghans ) . Osama is worth 100 million. He could
                                                                                          have invested his money into a better government, food, medicine or even asked NATO for
                                                                                          assistance in forming a stable government. What he did was rape the country and put them
                                                                                          at war with over 100 other countries worldwide. Blaming that on Americans is a far stretch
                                                                                          indeed. Mohammad bin Laden was born in 1957, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Afghan is not even
                                                                                          his homeland. He moved there because he was exiled from Saudi Arabia. Non of his intentions
                                                                                          were even closely related to the interests of Afghans. His war was based on his own interests
                                                                                          and the ability to convince Afghans of a perverted version of Muslim religion.

                                                                                          Trying to rationalize the fact that "terrorist" is usually followed by "muslim"
                                                                                          is inexcusable. Under no circumstance will I excuse cowardly attacks on the
                                                                                          innocent. There is an obvious difference between right and wrong which eludes you.

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                                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 19814

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Chris R
                                                                                            Osama bin Laden was the first choice for last year, but Time Warner caved into the pressure and made Rudolph Giuliani. You still know who hitler was. Will people know who Rudolph Giuliani is 60 years from now? I doubt it.

                                                                                            It is amazing how yellow the media becomes in times of tragedy. Don't get me wrong - I think he did a great job, but so could many other men and women.

                                                                                            People try to pretend Osama bin Laden won't change our way of life. They think by giving him "Man of the Year" that it is insulting to the lives of the people he took. I think it is insulting to those with a brain to pretend that evil does not exist in the world - and that some of these people have a great impact on our lives.

                                                                                            Anyone that travels by airplane now - is effected by Osama bin Laden. Even if you don't - you still are. He is the one man for better or worse that has changed our lives the most in the past year. It ulting to believe that if Rudolph Giuliani never lived - that New York would not have been able to survive.
                                                                                            at what point do you finally break down and admit that you're proud of Osama?

                                                                                            And to my friend Hoax, who wrote:

                                                                                            """1st, the koran states that a jihad may only be waged in such a manner that no women, children nor the elderly may be harmed in any manner.

                                                                                            2nd, a jihad may only be waged in such a manner that no structures (builings, temples, etc) may be damaged.

                                                                                            3rd, a jihad may only be waged in such a manner that no plant or tree carrying even one green leaf may be harmed. """"


                                                                                            I think its hilarious to believe that a *peaceful* religion spends so much time stating how war should be waged.
                                                                                            Too funny.

                                                                                            The fact that Osama's followers came from so many different countries (was it 50 or more?) but only one religion is very telling.
                                                                                            Oh, and so are the apologist's attempts to remind us about the harm christians did hundreds of years ago.

                                                                                            Guess what? Christians and Muslims where killing lots of people hundreds of years ago. The difference is that the Christians evolved and formed a society that understood murder was wrong. The muslims didn't.
                                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                            • nemesis
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                              • 1335

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                              And please stop spreading the lies about Americans being able to travel freely in Egypt, India, and Turkey. This is completely untrue. Ask the state department what they think. (oh wait, I'll bet you're smarter than them too)
                                                                                              I do not know why the fuck you put Turkey's name there... Man, you are a fucking liar just saying whatever you think without giving any proof...
                                                                                              Turkey Attracted over 10 million Tourists in 2000...(the total population of the country is 60M) Germany is in the first rank with 17.50 % and then many other european countries follows.
                                                                                              Another fact, Last year 515,000 Americans visited Turkey (NYtimes referring 2001)
                                                                                              Sources:
                                                                                              http://college3.nytimes.com/guests/a.../25/858769.xml
                                                                                              http://www3.estart.com/turkey/lifestyles/turizm.html


                                                                                              Also, for that picture, The way that the women wear do not have much to do with Islam. That type of dress is a traditional wearing style of Arabs (Fact, Turks has nothing to do with arabs, Totally different race totally different culture...) Turkey is a secular country and religion has nothing to with laws. That women at the picture would not be able to get a drivers license in Turkey as well as cannot become a teacher or any other government officer.(The reason is, that kind of wearing style is beleived to be a Arab tradition, and cannot be related with Islam. The religion of Islam has been abused by some Arabs... They relate every bullshit they make with religion. Hate, terror is againist to Islam, it is a peaceful religion period.

                                                                                              If Turkish people (who are %95 percent muslim) hated Americans, we would not let American Air force to use our army bases to bomb Iraq during the Gulf War.... As well as, Usa would not cover the last economical problems we had. So, could you please tell what kind of fucked up reasoning you have behind this... Here you are not talking to your redneck buddies who has no idea about the world. Here, you are arguing with a group of people from many countries and religions. Your fucked reasoning will not work here. If you have some facts and sources for that shit, just go ahead and post them.... If you do not have any shit, then go to your local bar and chat with your redneck friends, not with us...

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                                                                                              • Chris R
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 1151

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                THIS POST WAS NOT MADE BY CHRIS R - IT WAS EDITED BY SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN I EDITED IT TO ADD THIS LINE

                                                                                                nemesis,

                                                                                                you are an ass. The fact that turkey is in nato and stuff like that means nothing to me. Notice I can't prove him wrong with the state departments own website and then he brings up stuff about flat earth and things like that.

                                                                                                A muslim could take his life one day and I would still love them.

                                                                                                That is what racism is - blind hatred - blind to the truth. Please prove me wrong with the two totally false statements I've made.
                                                                                                The only thing the state department warns about tukey is driving - apparently there is some aggressive driving over there

                                                                                                THIS POST WAS NOT MADE BY CHRIS R - IT WAS EDITED BY SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN I EDITED IT TO ADD THIS LINE
                                                                                                Last edited by Chris R; 02-01-2002, 05:49 AM.

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                                                                                                • 12clicks
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 19814

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  alright you two dopes, muslims are currently killing Americans.
                                                                                                  I'm sure you think its all a fake put on by us racists to make muslims look bad.

                                                                                                  *muslims* from several different countries are killing Americans. That makes it religious. Now if you two would loosen the towel on your head and let the blood flow, you'd see that we have a problem with *muslims*
                                                                                                  When there are only 2 muslims left, and one of them kills another American, the remaining muslim will say,"no,no, he was a fanatic, I'm just a peace loving muslim"
                                                                                                  hahahaha
                                                                                                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                                  • orco
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                    • 64

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Sleepy;

                                                                                                    You again are worng; you simply DON"T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
                                                                                                    "you also telling me that terrorism is excusable on their part because they are too uncivilized to form a stable government ? "

                                                                                                    First of all I am not talking about Afghans so you wasted your breath... these people fighting for their right to exist are Palestinians. The Palestinian suffrage is what spurns this muslim extremist hatred and leads a people with no alternative to take their last drastic steps to survive. The conditions exist as they do for these people because of what OUR government does and is doing. It's not a matter of being civilized .... its the fact that OUR country prevents them from basic rights and conditions MANDATED they have by the United Nations because of our bed buddy relationship with Isreal and their War Criminal prime minister. WE prevent them from being able to form their "state" ... WE are the fuckin problem there ... and if you think otherwise; you need to go take a look at world events from the rest of the planet and realize what you are shown and read here is not the whole truth.

                                                                                                    "Trying to rationalize the fact that "terrorist" is usually followed by "muslim" is inexcusable. Under no circumstance will I excuse cowardly attacks on the innocent. There is an obvious difference between right and wrong which eludes you."

                                                                                                    The hillarious aspect of this argument is that the United States both directly and indirectly was and is responsible for past and ongoing atrocities to these people; and killed many "innocents". Yet they were poor Palestinian arabs and it was convenient for our Isreali buddies so we never gave a shit about their lives. However after they have died and suffered for years upon years at our hands and policies; and died as well.... they respond and you claim they are the only one killing innocents and civilians? You have no clue about the country you live in!

                                                                                                    12 Clicks

                                                                                                    the reason that *muslims are killing americans* is because us AMERICANS have been killing them and their children for years. We just never gave a shit. Now they struck back, they responded and we try to act like the rightious ones.

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                                                                                                    • Chris R
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 1151

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Come on 12 Clicks, post the proof - there are 5 million muslims in this country - how many have killed Americans?

                                                                                                      You keep spewing your crap without any proof - how long do you plan on doing this?

                                                                                                      Or is it just certain countries now? Please let us know which countries have the good muslims and which ones the bad ones.

                                                                                                      Why don't you just call us dopes again - that makes everyone on here understand how smart you are.

                                                                                                      How about the State Department - care to show me how I was wrong? You said they had an opinion - I posted the link from their website. Obviously I must have misunderstood what you meant by the state department - please let me know where the other state department is that shows this.

                                                                                                      Come on - show this dope the facts. Please educate me so I can understand what I am missing. I have only asked for this a few times now.

                                                                                                      Waiting to be educated by his holiness 12 Clicks,
                                                                                                      Chris (AKA Dope, Cunt, Closet Towel Head)

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