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  • druidezFR
    Registered User
    • Oct 2006
    • 8

    #1

    P2Pads ratio on Homemade 1 :50 000

    Hello,

    To start excuse me for my bad English and thank you with the person who will take time to read me!

    I began campaign with P2Pads. (1.300.000 FR traffic for 5000$) adult traffic.

    My contact ?Rob? at P2Pads certify me that he could send to me this traffic but after the launching of the campaign we let us receive only 500 visitors/day.
    P2PAds used our videos DRM which it shares on their server.

    After multiple try to increase the amount of traffic FR I understood that it could never send the 1.300.000 French visitor.
    Disappointed that, we decide to convert our FR campaign into US campaign.

    We let P2Pads use their own videos for this new campaign and use two groups of keyword.

    1st keyword group: Standard dating keyword that P2Pads purpose and our suggested keyword like :

    sex date
    porn date
    adult date
    xxx dating
    dating porn
    date sex
    blind date sex
    sex date
    adult sex date
    sex date site
    real sex date
    woman sex date
    sex tonight date
    date hot local sex
    hot date sex
    ..etc

    2nd Keyword group: Homemade and spy porn

    private home sex
    private home porn
    PRIVATE video porn
    homemade sex
    homemade sex
    homemade porn
    home spy video porn
    spy porn
    spy cam porn
    spy camera porn

    ..etc


    Each keyword groups on one separate URL.

    Date traffic = AFF
    Homemade / Spysex = Serious partners


    My P2Pads affiliate manager start the campaign and 48 hour after we receive only 100 visitors/day.
    At this time I contact Rob and explains there is a major problem with our campaign since the beginning and that nothing never work!!!!!
    Rob explain me that it?s the traffic corresponding at our keyword ?Etc...Etc and that it can nothing make for that.
    I say to him that I will send an email has his responsible to have explanation.

    It thus proposes that to me :
    ? I have some untargeted P2P traffic that I can give you until Monday. This traffic isn't part of your regular campaign, but there is a good amount of it. ?

    I don?t will this traffic. I will my targeted traffic.
    The traffic for which I paid

    I have sent a mail and now I wait??
    Since this last discussion with Rob we started has to receive traffic.

    But Look  :

    Serious partner Stats can be seen here :

    H T T P : // img237.imageshack.us/img237/6923/statsoh3.jpg
    H T T P : // img237.imageshack.us/img237/2254/countriehx8.jpg


    Stats Adult friend finder are in the same style


    What do you think about that ?
    P2Pads send to me untargeted/misc traffic?
    We can better do with 404 traffic 


    The best to finish! Our campaigns have a 40 days limited (we do not have was informed of that before the purchase). The 2006/10/14 it?s finish. We really started has to receive traffic yesterday

    Thanks for reading
    Last edited by druidezFR; 10-06-2006, 08:50 AM.
  • martinsc
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jun 2005
    • 27043

    #2
    ouch........
    Make Money

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    • detoxed
      vip member
      • Jan 2003
      • 17798

      #3
      Damn, seen that a lot

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      • Huggles
        GFY'S #1 retard
        • Feb 2003
        • 12544

        #4
        Sounds to me like you're a newb.



        I could convert that traffic 1:100



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        • lazycash
          Troll Patrol
          • Aug 2002
          • 15214

          #5
          Their p2p traffic is the absolute worst, they know its complete junk but continue to charge inflated prices.
          "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

          Its crazy..."

          VenusBlogger

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          • Huggles
            GFY'S #1 retard
            • Feb 2003
            • 12544

            #6
            Originally posted by lazycash
            Their p2p traffic is the absolute worst, they know its complete junk but continue to charge inflated prices.

            That's a pretty baseless thing to say, don't you think?
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            • lazycash
              Troll Patrol
              • Aug 2002
              • 15214

              #7
              Originally posted by Huggles
              Sounds to me like you're a newb.



              I could convert that traffic 1:100



              Lol, 1:100k maybe. Go easy on him, he just wasted 5k.
              "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

              Its crazy..."

              VenusBlogger

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              • cutievids
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2006
                • 773

                #8
                that's one crappy ratio.

                you sure you're selling your sponsors properly?
                ICQ: 320573202

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                • lazycash
                  Troll Patrol
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 15214

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Huggles
                  That's a pretty baseless thing to say, don't you think?
                  It would be baseless if I had nothing to base it on, but I do.
                  "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                  Its crazy..."

                  VenusBlogger

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                  • dunefield
                    www.barely18movies.com
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 10920

                    #10
                    First post... Troll?

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                    • druidezFR
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 8

                      #11
                      We have our own DRM sdk and our Own movies sharing on 8 servers on 100 mbits datacenter and make a lot of money with this.

                      With P2Pads traffic we not make money

                      I know P2P traffic i'm not a newbie !

                      i use P2P traffic since 1 year now with Microsoft DRM.
                      We have our own plateform for encoding and share.

                      But we have call P2Pads for a campaign because we can't have 1 300 000 good visitor traffic with our 8 servers.

                      I thought that P2PAds can but apparently P2Pads can either.

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                      • poisson
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 6474

                        #12
                        Originally posted by druidezFR
                        Hello,

                        To start excuse me for my bad English and thank you with the person who will take time to read me!

                        I began campaign with P2Pads. (1.300.000 FR traffic for 5000$) adult traffic.

                        -----------------------------------------------------------


                        The best to finish! Our campaigns have a 40 days limited (we do not have was informed of that before the purchase). The 2006/10/14 it?s finish. We really started has to receive traffic yesterday

                        Thanks for reading

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                        • druidezFR
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cutievids
                          that's one crappy ratio.

                          you sure you're selling your sponsors properly?
                          yes i have contacted my AFF affiliate manager that have verify this !

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                          • Huggles
                            GFY'S #1 retard
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12544

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lazycash
                            It would be baseless if I had nothing to base it on, but I do.


                            Let's hear it?
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                            • TDF
                              Triple OG nigga on GFY
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 27296

                              #15
                              nice ratio
                              Sig heil

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                              • druidezFR
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 8

                                #16
                                My AFF Stats here :

                                h t t p : // img430.imageshack.us/img430/8343/affjy3.gif

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                                • Huggles
                                  GFY'S #1 retard
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 12544

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by druidezFR
                                  We have our own DRM sdk and our Own movies sharing on 8 servers on 100 mbits datacenter and make a lot of money with this.

                                  With P2Pads traffic we not make money

                                  I know P2P traffic i'm not a newbie !

                                  i use P2P traffic since 1 year now with Microsoft DRM.
                                  We have our own plateform for encoding and share.

                                  But we have call P2Pads for a campaign because we can't have 1 300 000 good visitor traffic with our 8 servers.

                                  I thought that P2PAds can but apparently P2Pads can either.


                                  Seems fishy, if you know P2P traffic so well, why would you buy an ad campaign with P2Pads if you're making such good money doing it yourself?
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                                  • druidezFR
                                    Registered User
                                    • Oct 2006
                                    • 8

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Huggles
                                    Seems fishy, if you know P2P traffic so well, why would you buy an ad campaign with P2Pads if you're making such good money doing it yourself?

                                    To have more traffic that i can with my 8 servers !
                                    And because i use only emule !

                                    P2Pads say to use all P2P network

                                    your question is stupid ! Why you buy traffic if you have allready 1 website ?
                                    Why make a second TGP if you have allready one ?
                                    pff

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                                    • Huggles
                                      GFY'S #1 retard
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 12544

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by druidezFR
                                      To have more traffic that i can with my 8 servers !
                                      And because i use only emule !

                                      P2Pads say to use all P2P network

                                      your question is stupid ! Why you buy traffic if you have allready 1 website ?
                                      Why make a second TGP if you have allready one ?
                                      pff


                                      Ahhh, I understand now. I didn't know you only used eMule and were looking to expand your marketing campaign. I was under the impression that you already advertised across the same network.
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                                      • BabeHunter
                                        Webmaster
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 4063

                                        #20
                                        damn that's the worst ratio i ever seen
                                        Yep

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                                        • lazycash
                                          Troll Patrol
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 15214

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BabeHunter
                                          damn that's the worst ratio i ever seen
                                          Do a gfy search, there's others that have had even worse ratios with them. The thread starter spent 5k on their traffic and will be lucky to see $300 in sales from it.
                                          "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                          Its crazy..."

                                          VenusBlogger

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                                          • GTS Mark
                                            Vrume Mark
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 20912

                                            #22
                                            The truth is that this "customer" owns his own p2p company and is just jumping on the bandwagon to bash us. If we knew he had his own p2p company we would not have sold the traffic to him in the first place...

                                            I think he's pissed because he tried to reverse engineer what we were doing and could'nt figure it out. So what does he do, he sees the other thread where everyone is bashing us for selling traffic to legal adware companies and jumps on that bandwagon.

                                            If he has his own p2p company why in the hell would he need us? Think about it for a second...

                                            DH

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                                            • Huggles
                                              GFY'S #1 retard
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 12544

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

                                              If he has his own p2p company why in the hell would he need us? Think about it for a second...

                                              DH

                                              Yeah exactly. That's what I said!


                                              He did answer and say that he is only on eMule, and you guys are on multiple networks. I guess that's a reason for trying you guys, but like you said, sounds like he's just trying to get more info on how you guys do it.
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                                              • woj
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                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 47880

                                                #24
                                                What's so surprising? I thought it's a well known fact that p2p traffic is worse than 404 traffic...
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                                                • RobbieRye
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                  • 616

                                                  #25
                                                  For the last 30 days, we have worked very hard to provide this customer with a good campaign.

                                                  At his request, we've recreated the campaign many times, extended his time on our network, and generally done a heck of a lot of work to make him happy.

                                                  Sadly, not everyone can.


                                                  Now that his campaign is coming near to an end, he has told us he will charge back, etc, etc, etc.

                                                  He runs a competing peer-2-peer traffic service and I think that he's simply just trying to bash us now.


                                                  We're still delivering traffic to him. We will fulfill our obligations. There won't even be any hard feelings even though we've been treated poorly.

                                                  We stand behind our product - I'll be posting some actual conversion statistics soon

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                                                  • GTS Mark
                                                    Vrume Mark
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 20912

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lazycash
                                                    Do a gfy search, there's others that have had even worse ratios with them. The thread starter spent 5k on their traffic and will be lucky to see $300 in sales from it.
                                                    Almost everyone that has bought from us last year has made their money back or broken even.

                                                    Ask Ace from Naughty America, his campaign took 5 months to break even but it did break even and start making money.

                                                    Buying traffic is a crap shoot, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. I'm not going to lie to you and say that EVERYONE is going to make money because obviously that ain't going to happen. I wish everyone made money but there are only so many things we can do, we can't control tour designs, processing, advertising, clips, paysite hosting etc...

                                                    Lots of components in why a campaign works or doesn't work.

                                                    DH

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                                                    • druidezFR
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 8

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                      The truth is that this "customer" owns his own p2p company and is just jumping on the bandwagon to bash us. If we knew he had his own p2p company we would not have sold the traffic to him in the first place...

                                                      I think he's pissed because he tried to reverse engineer what we were doing and could'nt figure it out. So what does he do, he sees the other thread where everyone is bashing us for selling traffic to legal adware companies and jumps on that bandwagon.

                                                      If he has his own p2p company why in the hell would he need us? Think about it for a second...

                                                      DH

                                                      Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                      The truth is that this "customer" owns his own p2p company and is just jumping on the bandwagon to bash us. If we knew he had his own p2p company we would not have sold the traffic to him in the first place...

                                                      I think he's pissed because he tried to reverse engineer what we were doing and could'nt figure it out. So what does he do, he sees the other thread where everyone is bashing us for selling traffic to legal adware companies and jumps on that bandwagon.

                                                      If he has his own p2p company why in the hell would he need us? Think about it for a second...

                                                      DH
                                                      1/
                                                      Yes I launch soon a SPONSOR who uses the drm as tools for promotion. (like zangocash but no for spyware ! Just 100% CB Adult website clean)
                                                      I create promotional videos tools DRM already encoded that the webmasters will divide on their Web site and network P2P with the promot our Web site.

                                                      You sell the traffic of the P2P. it is absolutely not same work. All the contrary

                                                      if the traffic that you send was good I would have you to advise highly has all my futur webmasters.

                                                      2/
                                                      My futur sponsor is for FR only webmaster. Not launched on US market

                                                      3/
                                                      Look again the process/history of my campaign.
                                                      Verify my campaign if all is ok keyword...etc
                                                      Read the icq history of rob. I can send mine history if you want.

                                                      My campaign does not work ! it certainly not of your voluntary but this campaign not corespond at what i have paying for.

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                                                      • bdld
                                                        $100,000
                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 11452

                                                        #28
                                                        i'm not surprised the slightest bit..

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                                                        • bdld
                                                          $100,000
                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                          • 11452

                                                          #29
                                                          there's a reason why they wont let you buy a $100 worth, they want the 5k sales only so if you dont like it half-way, tough luck for you.

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                                                          • druidezFR
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Oct 2006
                                                            • 8

                                                            #30
                                                            I had asked for one "test Campaign" for 1000$ or 1500$ but that was refused

                                                            5000$ is the minimum for P2Pads campaign

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                                                            • JeanClaude VanDamme
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 652

                                                              #31
                                                              C'est quoi ton sponsor FR druidezFR ?
                                                              Aldo ?

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                                                              • GTS Mark
                                                                Vrume Mark
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 20912

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by bdld
                                                                there's a reason why they wont let you buy a $100 worth, they want the 5k sales only so if you dont like it half-way, tough luck for you.
                                                                Ummm bdld check my sig... It's been that way for several weeks.

                                                                READ before you post.

                                                                DH

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                                                                • GTS Mark
                                                                  Vrume Mark
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 20912

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by druidezFR
                                                                  I had asked for one "test Campaign" for 1000$ or 1500$ but that was refused

                                                                  5000$ is the minimum for P2Pads campaign
                                                                  $500 is the test campaign, 5k is our cheapest full campaign.

                                                                  DH

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                                                                  • Theo
                                                                    HAL 9000
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 34515

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Huggles
                                                                    Sounds to me like you're a newb.



                                                                    I could convert that traffic 1:100



                                                                    i didn't know you are into science fiction

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                                                                    • rollinthunder
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                      • 359

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Obviously if the traffic was any good they would use it themselves for their own sites instead of selling it through a high pressure sales team.

                                                                      Buying traffic from a 'broker' is newb mistake #1.

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                                                                      • StuartD
                                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 29903

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by rollinthunder
                                                                        Obviously if the traffic was any good they would use it themselves for their own sites instead of selling it through a high pressure sales team.

                                                                        Buying traffic from a 'broker' is newb mistake #1.
                                                                        p2pads doesn't have any sites, otherwise it would be p2psites.

                                                                        And buying traffic is a very common practice from newbs to the wisest of veterans.
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                                                                        • rollinthunder
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                          • 359

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                          p2pads doesn't have any sites, otherwise it would be p2psites.

                                                                          And buying traffic is a very common practice from newbs to the wisest of veterans.
                                                                          Of course you would say that, since you work for them. Wouldnt you agree if it was easy enough just to open some affiliate accounts and buy some traffic and start making money, then GTS would cease to exist as they would be getting rich of their own 'targeted traffic'?

                                                                          Obviously whatever GTS sells is at the very least not intended for an affiliate to make money off of.

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                                                                          • StuartD
                                                                            Sofa King Band
                                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                                            • 29903

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by rollinthunder
                                                                            Obviously whatever GTS sells is at the very least not intended for an affiliate to make money off of.
                                                                            You're right. It's not. Which is why we have recurring clients from years back still buying from month to month on schedule.
                                                                            It's because they make nothing.

                                                                            You have us figured out.
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                                                                            • RobbieRye
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 616

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by rollinthunder
                                                                              Wouldnt you agree if it was easy enough just to open some affiliate accounts and buy some traffic and start making money... blah blah blah
                                                                              We do.

                                                                              All the time.

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                                                                              • rollinthunder
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                • 359

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                You're right. It's not. Which is why we have recurring clients from years back still buying from month to month on schedule.
                                                                                It's because they make nothing.

                                                                                You have us figured out.
                                                                                I'd like to hear from even 1 affiliate who has made money on any of your advertising deals.

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                                                                                • QuaWee
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                  • 5791

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Ugh, that sucks
                                                                                  i luv mainstream

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                                                                                  • squishypimp
                                                                                    PostMaster General
                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                    • 10781

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    everyone has always told me that p2p traffic sucks.

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                                                                                    • StuartD
                                                                                      Sofa King Band
                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 29903

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by rollinthunder
                                                                                      I'd like to hear from even 1 affiliate who has made money on any of your advertising deals.
                                                                                      There are none. You said so yourself. GTS has only been around for almost 4 years or so. So naturally, not one single affiliate has ever made money. We'll be out of business by Christmas.
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                                                                                      • RobbieRye
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                                                        • 616

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by rollinthunder
                                                                                        I'd like to hear from even 1 affiliate who has made money on any of your advertising deals.
                                                                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...&highlight=P2P

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                                                                                        • druidezFR
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                                          • 8

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I can't convert P2Pads traffic because is poor or my campaign not work good or i have miss somthing. I try other technique for the end of this campaign but A lot of money can be made on P2P traffic.

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                                                                                          • madawgz
                                                                                            8.8.8.8
                                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                                            • 30509

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            that really sucks i think you should buy more traffic
                                                                                            TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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                                                                                            • rollinthunder
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                                              • 359

                                                                                              #47

                                                                                              Thats not an affiliate.

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                                                                                              • rollinthunder
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                                                • 359

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by StuartD
                                                                                                There are none. You said so yourself. GTS has only been around for almost 4 years or so. So naturally, not one single affiliate has ever made money. We'll be out of business by Christmas.

                                                                                                So an affiliate of some saturated program advertised here on gfy can simply buy traffic from you and be guaranteed a profit?

                                                                                                I got some land to sell you in Florida you jackass.

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                                                                                                • jono
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                  • 617

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Interesting

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                                                                                                  • StuartD
                                                                                                    Sofa King Band
                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 29903

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by rollinthunder
                                                                                                    So an affiliate of some saturated program advertised here on gfy can simply buy traffic from you and be guaranteed a profit?

                                                                                                    I got some land to sell you in Florida you jackass.
                                                                                                    Nobody is guaranteed anything. Sure, some people don't make a profit. But then, they buy a spot foolishly thinking their work is done... that somehow money will just roll in.
                                                                                                    Build a proper gallery, target your niche with the site's demographic... do your homework... then you will make sales.

                                                                                                    But a guarantee?? No such thing anywhere. I'd also like to point out that you are the first person in this thread to even mention that word. So where you got it from, I have no idea.
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