EPASSPORTE DRAMA - 2 Hacked webmasters money not returned

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  • EpassporteSucks
    Registered User
    • Oct 2006
    • 14

    #51
    How many other people as this happened too????
    Epassporte SUCKS

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    • gecko
      ******
      • Jun 2002
      • 21846

      #52
      Hope you get it solved
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      • MaddCaz
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2006
        • 9483

        #53
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        • bl4h
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2006
          • 1282

          #54
          epassporte ruined my life

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          • SmokeyTheBear
            ►SouthOfHeaven
            • Jun 2004
            • 28609

            #55
            this story is very frightening , i suspect to get around the withdrawl limit they used the money to purchase something they could quickly launder the money, such as a western union money order or something of the ilk.. maybe a gaming site that they then cash out onto another account.

            If epassporte isnt going to give you your money back they should at least be cooperative in helping you track down the fraud..

            The very first thing you should do is contact your local police.. they will do much of the leg work for you. as you pointed out in may be fruitless , but it also might not be fruitless..
            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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            • Rami
              Registered User
              • Jun 2003
              • 32

              #56
              This sucks big time ... might be a reason for me to stop epassporte payments
              Rami

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              • EpassporteSucks
                Registered User
                • Oct 2006
                • 14

                #57
                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                this story is very frightening , i suspect to get around the withdrawl limit they used the money to purchase something they could quickly launder the money, such as a western union money order or something of the ilk.. maybe a gaming site that they then cash out onto another account.

                If epassporte isnt going to give you your money back they should at least be cooperative in helping you track down the fraud..

                The very first thing you should do is contact your local police.. they will do much of the leg work for you. as you pointed out in may be fruitless , but it also might not be fruitless..
                I highly doubt that police in Uruguay would pursue this on an International basis.
                Epassporte SUCKS

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                • THY
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2002
                  • 351

                  #58
                  well i dont even know from where was this person.. we got nothiing, they have all the information needed but they wouldnt provide it, they are protecting this person.

                  So what do you guys think? i should contract some international lawyer and spend like 5k on it.... to recover my 2k? lol

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                  • viking1
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 493

                    #59
                    This sucks mate , so we all know epass support is looking at this thread ,come in and give us some answear , some people here have thousands of $ in epass .

                    This is just BS , get your asses in here and explain NOW

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                    • THY
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2002
                      • 351

                      #60
                      thanks for the support.

                      well i guess they have nothing to say about it? they cant deny anything so they could only make it worst... they are hoping to have this thread die soon as it usually happens...

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                      • tony299
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021

                        #61
                        if your in the US, checks people no bullshit that way.Real business has used them forever. If you think your avoiding taxes all that is asking for delayed pain.

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                        • THY
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2002
                          • 351

                          #62
                          im not in the US, not sure what you mean, i dont use epass to avoid taxes.

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                          • tehHinjew
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 5755

                            #63
                            could it be an inside job?

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                            • Ordo
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1186

                              #64
                              Sounds like an inside job, or epassporte trying to be like paypal in a more shady way...

                              I'd call the police and have this investigated.
                              Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

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                              • viking1
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2005
                                • 493

                                #65
                                Originally posted by tehHinjew
                                could it be an inside job?
                                Starting to wonder ......

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                                • tenderobject
                                  Need Designs? 312352846
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 11688

                                  #66
                                  too bad. scumbags are using epass for these kinds of bullshite. i hope they could atleast protect their card holders or even their own company on fraudalent actions. been scammed by a gfy scammer using epass a few months ago. then after i sent money to this guy and then waited for the stuff then after a few days i reported it to michael olsen atleast theyve closed the account although if im the only one who reported this user they will not shut it down. kinda sad. didn;t even get the money. but after that i usually accept payments bank wires and xoom which is kinda hassle for clients.


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                                  • V_RocKs
                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 32467

                                    #67
                                    May I ask what your password was?

                                    My password is not in a dictionary. It has numbers and letters. It has 10 characters...

                                    Did you use that same password ANYWHERE ELSE?

                                    Why is this important? I do security consulting and it is friggin very easy to steal the database from a lot of sponsors. But you do not even need a recent DB. You could have stolen one 2 years ago back when 90% of sponsor programs were extremely hackable.

                                    So you now have a list of every affiliate and their password to say 40 programs. How hard is it to use those same accounts to try and login to epassporte and your bank account and anything else you own with the same login and password?

                                    So I truely believe Epassporte is not at fault here. But you might know otherwise. Did you use your password anywhere else? If not was it easy to guess like hooters1 or something a dictionary attack with a basic ruleset (add a digit to the end, make it h4ck3r sp34k, etc...)?

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                                    • cyberstar
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 1263

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                      Umh sorry, a bit offtopic but how do i turn on email notifications?
                                      that's the first thing i did after reading this post.. damn
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                                      • EpassporteSucks
                                        Registered User
                                        • Oct 2006
                                        • 14

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                        May I ask what your password was?

                                        My password is not in a dictionary. It has numbers and letters. It has 10 characters...

                                        Did you use that same password ANYWHERE ELSE?

                                        Why is this important? I do security consulting and it is friggin very easy to steal the database from a lot of sponsors. But you do not even need a recent DB. You could have stolen one 2 years ago back when 90% of sponsor programs were extremely hackable.

                                        So you now have a list of every affiliate and their password to say 40 programs. How hard is it to use those same accounts to try and login to epassporte and your bank account and anything else you own with the same login and password?

                                        So I truely believe Epassporte is not at fault here. But you might know otherwise. Did you use your password anywhere else? If not was it easy to guess like hooters1 or something a dictionary attack with a basic ruleset (add a digit to the end, make it h4ck3r sp34k, etc...)?
                                        Your saying that your pretty positive that Epassporte has been hacked at one time or another?
                                        Epassporte SUCKS

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                                        • THY
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 351

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                          May I ask what your password was?

                                          My password is not in a dictionary. It has numbers and letters. It has 10 characters...

                                          Did you use that same password ANYWHERE ELSE?

                                          Why is this important? I do security consulting and it is friggin very easy to steal the database from a lot of sponsors. But you do not even need a recent DB. You could have stolen one 2 years ago back when 90% of sponsor programs were extremely hackable.

                                          So you now have a list of every affiliate and their password to say 40 programs. How hard is it to use those same accounts to try and login to epassporte and your bank account and anything else you own with the same login and password?

                                          So I truely believe Epassporte is not at fault here. But you might know otherwise. Did you use your password anywhere else? If not was it easy to guess like hooters1 or something a dictionary attack with a basic ruleset (add a digit to the end, make it h4ck3r sp34k, etc...)?

                                          no, impossible to know, it was a mixed word english/spanish and i didnt use it anywhere else..

                                          and dont forget that the same day another webmaster was hacked for 2500 dollars....

                                          so this person guessed or stole 2 passwords the same day?

                                          weird dont you think..

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                                          • V_RocKs
                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32467

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by EpassporteSucks
                                            Your saying that your pretty positive that Epassporte has been hacked at one time or another?
                                            No, I am saying that I am 100% positive that AFFILIATE programs have been hacked.

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                                            • V_RocKs
                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 32467

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by THY
                                              no, impossible to know, it was a mixed word english/spanish and i didnt use it anywhere else..

                                              and dont forget that the same day another webmaster was hacked for 2500 dollars....

                                              so this person guessed or stole 2 passwords the same day?

                                              weird dont you think..
                                              What was your relationship to the other webmaster?

                                              This password isn't used for your MYSQL login or SSH login or anywhere else?

                                              You own 4 programs?

                                              Not the same password as your CCBILL, Epoch, etc login?

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                                              • EpassporteSucks
                                                Registered User
                                                • Oct 2006
                                                • 14

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                No, I am saying that I am 100% positive that AFFILIATE programs have been hacked.
                                                How likely is it that Epassporte has been hacked?
                                                Epassporte SUCKS

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                                                • cyberstar
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                  • 1263

                                                  #74
                                                  Thy, I am so sorry to hear this. I hope you can get your money back. This really sucks!!
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                                                  • V_RocKs
                                                    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 32467

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by EpassporteSucks
                                                    How likely is it that Epassporte has been hacked?
                                                    If it were, we'd all know it pretty damn quick.

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                                                    • THY
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 351

                                                      #76
                                                      nop, i own 4 programs yes and i dont use this pass anywhere else... email etc... some way or another my passwords are all different and even if you knew one would be hard to tell the others.. being in this business for over 6 years now and never had a problem like this..

                                                      about the other webmaster, i dont know him at all.. i made a thread last week when i had this problem and this webmaster contacted me on icq saying his account was hacked too for 2500.... so we talked and realized that it was the same hacker actually..
                                                      i know he was saying the true because epassporte confirmed to me that someone else was hacked thou they didnt want to tell me who was him..


                                                      and MYSQL, SSH etc all those logins are setup by my programmers not by me, different passwords..

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                                                      • EpassporteSucks
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                        • 14

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                        If it were, we'd all know it pretty damn quick.
                                                        Are you so sure? Maybe the better strategy would be to get a few grand a week to not alert them and make it look random.
                                                        Epassporte SUCKS

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                                                        • THY
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 351

                                                          #78
                                                          ANYWAS...

                                                          i have a simple question for EPASSPORTE...
                                                          just answer this please..

                                                          HOW DID THIS PERSON TO WITHDRAW 4500 DOLLARS IN 1 HOUR!

                                                          thanks.

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                                                          • THY
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2002
                                                            • 351

                                                            #79
                                                            yes and another thing im sure is that these guys might be after the big accounts or program owners... think many big companies do lots of payouts and probably wouldnt even notice if they miss 2k...

                                                            i had clients pay me from 5k to 10k by mistake instead of 1k etc...... they got the money back of course.

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                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 32467

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by THY
                                                              ANYWAS...

                                                              i have a simple question for EPASSPORTE...
                                                              just answer this please..

                                                              HOW DID THIS PERSON TO WITHDRAW 4500 DOLLARS IN 1 HOUR!

                                                              thanks.
                                                              That is a good question... Because the only way he could have done so is to use a coporate account to receive the money. Which means there is a very large account that should also be pissed off here.

                                                              The only other way would be to send a specially crafted POST that would circumvent the check. But that would require a lot of knowledge and skill on the hackers part and a complete disregard for basic filtering of the users input.

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                                                              • EpassporteSucks
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Oct 2006
                                                                • 14

                                                                #81
                                                                What is the official statement from Epassporte? Seems like a fairly serious thread and concern to their security.
                                                                Epassporte SUCKS

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                                                                • THY
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 351

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by THY
                                                                  ANYWAS...

                                                                  i have a simple question for EPASSPORTE...
                                                                  just answer this please..

                                                                  HOW DID THIS PERSON TO WITHDRAW 4500 DOLLARS IN 1 HOUR!

                                                                  thanks.
                                                                  still waiting for a reply on this... i think we deserve that at least.

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                                                                  • Platinumpimp
                                                                    Logos and such.
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 10214

                                                                    #83
                                                                    If the story you tell is right, epassporte is DEFINATELY the one to take the hit here.
                                                                    I design logo's.

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                                                                    • Platinumpimp
                                                                      Logos and such.
                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 10214

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by EpassporteSucks
                                                                      What is the official statement from Epassporte? Seems like a fairly serious thread and concern to their security.
                                                                      The official statement is that you are too afraid to post under your real name, shitstain.
                                                                      I design logo's.

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                                                                      • EpassporteSucks
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                                        • 14

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by Platinumpimp
                                                                        The official statement is that you are too afraid to post under your real name, shitstain.
                                                                        At least I am posting - they haven't said a word about this situation.
                                                                        Epassporte SUCKS

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                                                                        • EpassporteSucks
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Oct 2006
                                                                          • 14

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Needs a BUMP
                                                                          Epassporte SUCKS

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                                                                          • THY
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                            • 351

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Platinumpimp
                                                                            The official statement is that you are too afraid to post under your real name, shitstain.
                                                                            lol, may be he is afraid of having his epass account "hacked" if he does... :D

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                                                                            • Matt 26z
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                              • 18481

                                                                              #88
                                                                              P2P banking will continue to be high risk since it doesn't have an ounce of government regulation yet.

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                                                                              • THY
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                • 351

                                                                                #89
                                                                                well thats it for today... i was hoping to get some explanation from them but it seems like they prefer to ignore it... do you know any other big adult company that would do something like this?

                                                                                anyways i will try again tomorrow, may be they were too busy today and didnt check the board.. : )

                                                                                thanks to everyone that replied to this thread.

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                                                                                • phonesex
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                                  • 3437

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  never leave more than a few hundred dollars in your epass account at any given time and withdraw as soon as you can.

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                                                                                  • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 14142

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    I Luv u Thy

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                                                                                    • Daruma
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 3494

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                      P2P banking will continue to be high risk since it doesn't have an ounce of government regulation yet.
                                                                                      what do you mean yet?
                                                                                      there will never be gov regulation on these types of payment solutions.. they are spread around too many countries todo anything like that

                                                                                      RIP TD

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                                                                                      • NoWhErE
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Sep 2005
                                                                                        • 10605

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        This has Epassporte internal scam plastered all over it.

                                                                                        Unless the hacker has setup a network of accounts to steal money and then filter it through his accounts (the type of thing the mafia would do), then it is highly likely that its an inside job. I am DAMN sure there are PLENTY of disgruntled employees in that company and I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are pocketing our money.


                                                                                        The fact that Keyzer or anyone else from Epass hasn't responded proves the fact that they are trying to come up with a good story to back themselves up.



                                                                                        I am shocked that they have not suspended the hackers account. Everyone here pisses and moans everytime their account gets locked up cause they have 3-4k in their account and require proof of their ID.


                                                                                        Its also fucked up that epass would cover the hacker's ass on this.
                                                                                        skype: lordofthecameltoe

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                                                                                        • tenderobject
                                                                                          Need Designs? 312352846
                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                          • 11688

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          bump for epassporte


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                                                                                          • msan
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jun 2006
                                                                                            • 1336

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            It's more likely an inside job since no one can withdraw that large amount of money in an hour.
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                                                                                            • emthree
                                                                                              Dialer Kingpin
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 10816

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              If it's an inside job...
                                                                                              2k here and there adds up over time.

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                                                                                              • gooddomains
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 10127

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                This is how it works always, even with your bank account. Report to the authorities and you might be able to save some money.

                                                                                                Originally posted by THY
                                                                                                here is what we got from EPASSPORTE..(see i typed it fine)..

                                                                                                we talked with Annelies - one of the supervisors there. Basically - the burden of solving this is on us. We have to get an international supena to get the information for the fraudulant account holder. They admitted it was fraud but they will not take burnden of solving this for us - we have todo that - so we have to hire an international lawyer to get an international supena to get the information for the records of the person that committed fraud to us. Then the process can take 6 months to investigate. Then the person that did fraud probably used fake information so it will go nowhere.
                                                                                                She admitted that we loose, they make $ on fees and the person that committed fraud makes $$. The $ was immediately transfered to buy something she will not tell me what that was - that is what we need the lawyer todo - to get access to that information - probably went to either buy something or to some online service or gaming place.
                                                                                                they have all of the information - they will not tell us - its almost that we have to sue them to get that information.

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                                                                                                • AdultEUhost
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                  • 2579

                                                                                                  #98
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                                                                                                  • martinsc
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jun 2005
                                                                                                    • 27043

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    another bump for answers...
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                                                                                                    • StatsJunky
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                                      • 639

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Epassporte are a bunch of useless morons. I had a similar situation and they did nothing and wouldn't even consider shutting down or investigating the othger account.
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