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  • MetaMan
    I AM WEB 2.0
    • Jan 2003
    • 28682

    #1

    Do you still worry about 800x600 users?

    simple question, i see alot of people including us moving into wider layouts and worrying less about 800x600 resolutions.
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  • Ice
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2002
    • 26053

    #2
    From my stats around 16% use 800x600, about 60% are 1024x768, about 20% are higher then 1024x768, and 4% unknown.
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    • After Shock Media
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      • Mar 2001
      • 35299

      #3
      Yes I still consider them. Just like I still consider the dial up users. Ignoring them would be bad business in my mind. Lots of people do not upgrade often. Nor do many change settings much on their computers and often if they do they change them to what they were used to.

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      • fallenmuffin
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2005
        • 8170

        #4
        No, I always stay within a 770px or less table or design wrap

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        • MetaMan
          I AM WEB 2.0
          • Jan 2003
          • 28682

          #5
          We used to do within 780px, now we are moving upto 850px. I think the extra width the ability to display extra content will make up for the loss of some 800x600 users.

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          • After Shock Media
            It's coming look busy
            • Mar 2001
            • 35299

            #6
            btw. I am still tracking right around 20% at 800x600.

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            • dissipate
              The Dirty Frenchman
              • Nov 2005
              • 8904

              #7
              I don't worry too much about 800x600 users, but I still try to stay under 900px wide.

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              • k0nr4d
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2006
                • 9231

                #8
                800x600 still holds a huge market share. I make all sites 780 px. The scrollbar is exactly 17px wide, so you could get away with 783 really...
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                • BigCashCrew
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 3570

                  #9
                  Yes, I still keep 800x600 in mind when having pages built.

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                  • spasmo
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 2678

                    #10
                    I design for 1024x768. It's the new 800x600.

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                    • bdld
                      $100,000
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 11452

                      #11
                      99% of the time, i dont build anything wider than 800px

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                      • Tuga
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                        • Nov 2002
                        • 7678

                        #12
                        I am starting to let them go, if we dont push it, they wont change.

                        When they start feeling that something is wrong, they will change the settings to 1024.

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                        • A-Bomb
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 680

                          #13
                          My TGP and pay sites browser stats sit at 16.5% 800x600. w3schools stats (http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp) say that for this January 20% were at 800x600 and 17% was for July. With new computer sales in December, my guess is we will be sitting 13% or 14% come January 2007.

                          I think if any resolutions are running in double digit ranges, you should worry. Think about it. If you are running 780px tables, your are pissing off 17% of your potential customers running 800x600. Whatever your normal conversion rate is, there are that may sales buried in that 17%. Now take that group and subtract the amount of people that don't buy because of the resolution issue.... which my guess is the majority of them. So can you afford to lose these sales?

                          Also on the flip side, if you reformat to cater to this 800x600 minority, what revenue would you be losing in higher resolution subscription sales and cross promotional realestate?

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                          • bl4h
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                            • Jul 2006
                            • 1282

                            #14
                            14% of my traffic is 800x600 ....ill stop worrying when its less than 1%

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                            • A-Bomb
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                              • Dec 2004
                              • 680

                              #15
                              Originally posted by A-Bomb
                              My TGP and pay sites browser stats sit at 16.5% 800x600. w3schools stats (http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp) say that for this January 20% were at 800x600 and 17% was for July. With new computer sales in December, my guess is we will be sitting 13% or 14% come January 2007.

                              I think if any resolutions are running in double digit ranges, you should worry. Think about it. If you are running 780px tables, your are pissing off 17% of your potential customers running 800x600. Whatever your normal conversion rate is, there are that may sales buried in that 17%. Now take that group and subtract the amount of people that don't buy because of the resolution issue.... which my guess is the majority of them. So can you afford to lose these sales?

                              Also on the flip side, if you reformat to cater to this 800x600 minority, what revenue would you be losing in higher resolution subscription sales and cross promotional realestate?
                              sorry, I meant greater than 800px!

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                              • jact
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                                • Sep 2002
                                • 9134

                                #16
                                I'll stop worrying about them when the % is under 5%, until then I need to make sure they're covered.
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                                • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 9395

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                  Yes I still consider them. Just like I still consider the dial up users. Ignoring them would be bad business in my mind. Lots of people do not upgrade often. Nor do many change settings much on their computers and often if they do they change them to what they were used to.
                                  Same here.....

                                  You must be able to reach as many people as you can...

                                  People with flash sites would be smart to have a 56k version to, which not many do.....

                                  now if you are real good with your tables you can make the page fit there screen perfect, but I never try to do that.....

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                                  • Project-Shadow
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 7340

                                    #18
                                    I figure the people still on 800x600 are newer to the internet and computers.. therefore are easier sells. Once that number drops to <5% I'll no longer worry but for now i'm still trying to squeeze the last of those sales.

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                                    • Elli
                                      Reach for those stars!
                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 17991

                                      #19
                                      Nothing wider than 800 layout or design wise, but my photos are now 1024 on the long side as a general rule.
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                                      • squishypimp
                                        PostMaster General
                                        • Aug 2006
                                        • 10781

                                        #20
                                        a large amount of internet users are still using it, so yes.

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                                        • SmokeyTheBear
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                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 28609

                                          #21
                                          more users using 800x600 than firefox so if you plan around firefox u should be planning around 800x600
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                                          • marketsmart
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                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 20419

                                            #22
                                            you should keep with that until it drops below 10%

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                                            • Gillespie
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                                              • Aug 2006
                                              • 1391

                                              #23
                                              The real question is how do these 800x600 convert. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they're using a 14" 800x600 old piece of crap, chances are that they don't have the money to buy anything and are probably just burning up bandwidth.

                                              My traffic is 12% 800x600. The vast majority uses XP and 1024x768, which is exactly the minimum I'm shooting for. Also, Analytics reports that only 8% uses dialup. This is the reason I build TGPs 750 pixels wide and use big thumbnails.

                                              So yeah, the real question is how much is 800x600 traffic willing to spend...
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                                              • PlugRush Sascha
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                                                • Jan 2004
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                                                #24
                                                No. Maybe I should, but I don't.
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                                                • karlcore
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                                                  • Jul 2006
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                                                  #25
                                                  I do, because I'm in no position NOT to worry about them. If their money is green, I'm concerned.
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                                                  • TimBlaze
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                                                    • Oct 2006
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                                                    #26
                                                    i consider them
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                                                    • MetaMan
                                                      I AM WEB 2.0
                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 28682

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Gillespie
                                                      The real question is how do these 800x600 convert. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they're using a 14" 800x600 old piece of crap, chances are that they don't have the money to buy anything and are probably just burning up bandwidth.

                                                      My traffic is 12% 800x600. The vast majority uses XP and 1024x768, which is exactly the minimum I'm shooting for. Also, Analytics reports that only 8% uses dialup. This is the reason I build TGPs 750 pixels wide and use big thumbnails.

                                                      So yeah, the real question is how much is 800x600 traffic willing to spend...

                                                      This is exactly the part i was thinking about, anyone with a half decent new monitor uses a resolution above 800x600 (there are cases but i am just saying)

                                                      If content is king then why not use that extra space to display more content that can reach the majority of your resolution users? (ie 1024x768)

                                                      At the same time money is green for everyone you could also be losing money due to the fact of wasted space.

                                                      That is the exact reason why we are moving forward and away from 800x600 layouts.

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                                                      • Gillespie
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                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                        • 1391

                                                        #28
                                                        Money is green, we can agree on that. However, pastures seem to be greener if you use the extra space to plug in more stuff.

                                                        I use a 1440x900 laptop screen. There really is nothing more annoying than to browse a site that is still optimized for less than 800x600.

                                                        Take this, for example: http://www.forummonkeys.com/forums/index.php

                                                        That thing uses like a third of my screen. It's just not practical at all, and I've seen several porn blogs using that table width.
                                                        Last edited by Gillespie; 10-04-2006, 04:42 PM.
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                                                        • emthree
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                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 10816

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Gillespie
                                                          Money is green, we can agree on that. However, pastures seem to be greener if you use the extra space to plug in more stuff.
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                                                          • Gillespie
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                                                            • Aug 2006
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                                                            #30
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                                                            • nico-t
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                                                              • Aug 2004
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                                                              #31
                                                              yea, kinda... not all my sites though

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