I do this once a year or so, it's fun and I see many new faces
Post here and i'll answer your newbie (or not) business question
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i assume this is for a free site right (tgp/mgp)? You can see a bookmark rate in the range of 0.03% to 1.5%. Depends on the traffic source, layout and if you trade with other sites or not. If you don't trade,your bookmark rate will be superior, same with the quality of your traffic. Imagine trading of traffic as a battle between your site and your trades on who has the best site. The best will win the most bookmarkers, make no mistake about it.Comment
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Hi,Originally posted by Soul_RebelI do this once a year or so, it's fun and I see many new faces
What can i do to make this site better converting www.lasexcams.com ?
i want all the advice good and bad
Only then i can make things better
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other than linkdumps & porn guestbooks, is there any way to increase my inbound links without having to link back to a million people?Comment
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Originally posted by wallyHi,
What can i do to make this site better converting www.lasexcams.com ?
i want all the advice good and bad
Only then i can make things better
thanks for the great help on this board
are the ifriends girls actually online as appear? My guess is not,therfore what I would do is stop rotating random girls and pick the most attractive ones. If you have a decent amount of traffic flow to that you can track the performance of each girl (will take a while) and eliminate those not performing well. Also put the friends of lasexcams.com below IMLIVE banner and not above.Comment
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I am just starting out, but in a total gift from god I have the opportunity to sign an AMAZING girl to an exclusive deal for me to represent her. Seriously, this girl has Hustler/Penthouse centerfold written all over her and she's very serious about getting into porn as a career.
My only problem is I'm in USA and she is in Canada. I need a contract that will be legal and binding in both countries and I have no idea where to start. I am also running on limited funds so I want to avoid getting lawyers fees racked up.
Can anyone help?
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Hello,
I've got a couple of questions, would be great ify ou could answer em
- Out of all the free/not free scripts etc, are there any you reccommend, even to a good programmer? (basically what I am asking, are there any programs/scripts for adult sites that are worth buying, even if I am able to program/script anyway)
- Are there any sponsors/companies that you know of or use that pay out good cpm (ie any that you reccommend that pay $x.xx per 1000 impressions or whatever)Comment
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What niche and what program convert best in your opinion ? And can you recommend any good ppc programs ?Last edited by Cyber Fucker; 09-29-2006, 10:07 AM.Comment
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Hello, I'm new, obviously. Thank you for taking your time to answer questions for us.
My question? Content. I am looking to create new solo girl & lesbian content starring local first-timer ametuer girls only. I have some beauties lined up ready to shoot. I am working on a very tight budget though and was thinking about selling some of my picture sets to content providers while I keep the video sets on my website. Is this a good idea or bad?
Noob question, two parts: If I sell my content (video or pics) to a provider will I still be able to use it for myself? Can I sell my content to multiple content providers?He who laughs last...
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/subscr...ption&t=660579Originally posted by ImplodeLol another noob question: How do I subscribe to this thread? =D
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Although I don't have any first hand experience with content production, I believe you need to consider certain things about this business relationship.Originally posted by bzinteractionsI am just starting out, but in a total gift from god I have the opportunity to sign an AMAZING girl to an exclusive deal for me to represent her. Seriously, this girl has Hustler/Penthouse centerfold written all over her and she's very serious about getting into porn as a career.
My only problem is I'm in USA and she is in Canada. I need a contract that will be legal and binding in both countries and I have no idea where to start. I am also running on limited funds so I want to avoid getting lawyers fees racked up.
Adult models are not that highly paid ones, actually the opposite. In the case you will not be the photographer yourself and you just plan to have the role of agent don't expect to make any actual money unless your model ends up the next jenna jameson. Now getting into content production yourself is a big step. It requires decent skills you don't gain overnight and some good equipment at least.
So from what you see, while you can possbile work things out, you are thinking to start from a wrong basis. Why? Because penthouse looking models willing to do porn exist in dozens and it takes more than that to do something decent. Skills in photography is a big plus, same goes with marketing skills. If I were you I would primarily look to gain such skills (if you dont have already) and then checkout the model factor, it's of less importance.Comment
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hello,Originally posted by deadmoonHello,
I've got a couple of questions, would be great ify ou could answer em
- Out of all the free/not free scripts etc, are there any you reccommend, even to a good programmer? (basically what I am asking, are there any programs/scripts for adult sites that are worth buying, even if I am able to program/script anyway)
- Are there any sponsors/companies that you know of or use that pay out good cpm (ie any that you reccommend that pay $x.xx per 1000 impressions or whatever)
you can check xbiz.com directory for a good # of scripts. You didn't specify what type of scripts you are interested in, so I'll break-them down.
SmartThumbs and ComusThumbs are both good scripts to run a thumb TGP/MGP. My company is about to release another very good script under the name VistaThumbs at a more competitive price, but currently I don't have a working example. (pretty soon though i will)
Trading Scripts: TM3 (http://www.tgpsoftware.com/) is a good trading script, same goes with RB4 (http://www.scriptkeeper.net/scp/rb4/)
For link lists I recommend: http://www.xpowerlinks.com
For top lists checkout: DF TopList Professional (http://www.dfservice.com/dftop/index.html.en.htm)
CPM programs in the adult industry won't make you any real money. There's isn't any close to decent cpm program at this moment and more likely never existed. Avoid ppc programs as well unless they are search egines. Revshare and PPS are the ones that will max. your earnings. Honestly don't waste your time and traffic with any other.Comment
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you are welcome.Originally posted by ImplodeHello, I'm new, obviously. Thank you for taking your time to answer questions for us.
My question? Content. I am looking to create new solo girl & lesbian content starring local first-timer ametuer girls only. I have some beauties lined up ready to shoot. I am working on a very tight budget though and was thinking about selling some of my picture sets to content providers while I keep the video sets on my website. Is this a good idea or bad?
Noob question, two parts: If I sell my content (video or pics) to a provider will I still be able to use it for myself? Can I sell my content to multiple content providers?
Yes, you can do any of the above based on the agreement you'll have and the license you'll provide. Of course pricing will vary accordingly. I suggest if you plan to make any sologirl site, not to sell the content of it to others because it will decrease the marketing value your attempt will have. In the case of sites having multiple-girls I don't see any problem.Comment
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A quite small question:
what's the best toplist for my blog.. and i search for something will make a sum of owed clicks. (incoming-outoing)
hopefully you could awnser this aswel. thanks in advance
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Originally posted by naughty_wldA quite small question:
what's the best toplist for my blog.. and i search for something will make a sum of owed clicks. (incoming-outoing)
hopefully you could awnser this aswel. thanks in advance
DF TopList Professional (http://www.dfservice.com/dftop/index.html.en.htm)
this is a good one,some big top lists use it,there;s also autorank pro,but i think its outdated.Comment
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How do I trade traffic with other TGP sites when I am new and have very little traffic to start with? Many sites require > 100 hits to start the trade, so I can purchase traffic from Choker, but then once my purchased traffic dies out, how do I keep a trade active/alive?Comment
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As someone who has been an affiliate for a long time how many sales do you think are lost between the affiliates promotional site (tpg, gallery, blog, freesite) and the sponsors sign up form? Meaning they get the sale and you do not get credit.
As a follow up question it?s obvious there are various reasons for this to happen, what do you think are the most common reasons and what are the methods you use to reduce this?http://www.maddiestyle.com Contact Me (link trades) - maddmail/at/maddiestyle.com
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Do you find that most sign ups come from people actively searching for good content they like or are most sign ups an impulse buy based on the hotness of the sales material (model, sex, quality, idea)?
Basically should I use what I consider the best of breed paysites and push them or should I always look for the new models, new content, next big thing and push that?
Maybe there isn?t that much difference, but since I started putting a site together I find that I?m over whelmed with choices. Do I use a hard sales pitch like ?This site is the sexiest? most hardcore? bla bla click here now? or do I use a softer pitch basically presenting paysite banners and text links along with my site?
My solution is to put myself in the surfers chair and try to figure out his mind set. So are most surfers willing to pay for high quality, or do they need that one off /something different content or is this all a marketing game and hot sales material is the end all be all.
If this specific question doesn?t make any sense I would appreciate just your general sales technique. And ideas.
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Question about traffic management
The idea is to get as much traffic as possible and convert it to sales. Do you consider any link not leading to a sales page / sign up page a traffic leak. Would it be better to not trade traffic/ link exchange and just purchase traffic. The time saved can be used to refine the conversation rate of your pages.
Are sign ups so hard to come by that buying traffic should only be used to feed a sites trading / link exchanging productivity. But if the surfer doesn?t sign up at your trade partners site what makes you think they will sign up from your site. For that matter, these traffic sellers are pushing the same or similar sponsors as me, same question applies.
Are there traffic sellers with quality traffic that hasn?t been through the gauntlet? Are traffic trades only good for gaining search engine exposure?
Sorry I?m writing a fucking novel here, I?m more interested in the strategy / why do, than the technique how to stuff at this point.http://www.maddiestyle.com Contact Me (link trades) - maddmail/at/maddiestyle.com
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when you purchase traffic you tweak your site to maximize your productivity while keeping bookmarkers rate it an acceptable level. It all depends how well you do your numbers. A friend of mine created an approx 1.8 mil uniques/day traffic network without spending any money in traffic aside some feeding traffic he had from other projects. Took him about 8 months, it can be done, but it's not that simple. Preparation of this network was an additional 6 months of work. Obviously when you have your own scripts and experience things are easier. So back to your question.....try your site to overperform any sites you are trading with. Be very picky about the quality of traffic you purchase and the cost of it.Originally posted by SuperDave05How do I trade traffic with other TGP sites when I am new and have very little traffic to start with? Many sites require > 100 hits to start the trade, so I can purchase traffic from Choker, but then once my purchased traffic dies out, how do I keep a trade active/alive?Comment
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Hey Sould Rebel!
Great thread - and the perfect place to answer my questions
- I promote Ivana & Masha through my blog. They were my top keywords for SE traffic. Recently SE traffic dropped dramatically, and now Ivana & Masha are like on place 8 or 9 at my keyword stats. So, did you realize any drop in SE traffic for those sites aswell? I'm just wondering if it's my site or Google keyword shifts.
- Please have a look at http://www.naughtysologirls.com/! Any suggestions how to improve it and maybe get more traffic?Comment
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Originally posted by Mad manAs someone who has been an affiliate for a long time how many sales do you think are lost between the affiliates promotional site (tpg, gallery, blog, freesite) and the sponsors sign up form? Meaning they get the sale and you do not get credit.
As a follow up question it?s obvious there are various reasons for this to happen, what do you think are the most common reasons and what are the methods you use to reduce this?
Good question, I was asked the same during a webmaster lecture. There isn't any definitely answer due to different ways of tracking sales by aff. programs. If the aff.program tracks both by Cookie Session and URL Query String Tracking then only a minimal fraction (less than 1% to 2% my estimation) of the total sales are getting lost. Tracking by Cookie Session only may result in avg 10-12% of sales lost (not getting credited to affiliates) therefore not a recommended method. Make sure your aff.program is using both.Comment
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Hi!, another question. On traffic trading, if I have for example, 20 outs to a trade, and 20 ins from that trade, but productivity is like 50% or any other number below 100%; what should I do? keep the trade because it is fair in the number of ins and outs, or drop it because of low productivity?
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here's my embarassing newbie question....
do you think I should submit my galleries to MGP/TGPs without having a TGP of my own? Just hosting the galleries with some crap on the .com index
I currently have a $760/month server setup and am making about $2100 a month in profit from non-xxx shit, I wanna up that number by quite a few hundreds.Roll that shit, light that shit,
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Hey TimBlaze
I was wondering, if you would be so kind as to email me or ICQ me... on how your managing as to be so successful in your online business ventures.
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hey
i have three sites and we are using verotel for payment how would one set up an affiliate program with it.
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--------------------------------Originally posted by Mad manDo you find that most sign ups come from people actively searching for good content they like or are most sign ups an impulse buy based on the hotness of the sales material (model, sex, quality, idea)?
Basically should I use what I consider the best of breed paysites and push them or should I always look for the new models, new content, next big thing and push that?
I can tell you at this point competition is high enough you need to combine almost all of those to achive satisfying results. Potential members primarily get impressed with a model, but before joining they consider the value of your site based on the price you ask.
Maybe there isn?t that much difference, but since I started putting a site together I find that I?m over whelmed with choices. Do I use a hard sales pitch like ?This site is the sexiest? most hardcore? bla bla click here now? or do I use a softer pitch basically presenting paysite banners and text links along with my site?
I would go with the softer pitch version. Avoid common phrases and a lot of !!!
My solution is to put myself in the surfers chair and try to figure out his mind set. So are most surfers willing to pay for high quality, or do they need that one off /something different content or is this all a marketing game and hot sales material is the end all be all.
If this specific question doesn?t make any sense I would appreciate just your general sales technique. And ideas.
It's all of the above actually. Some are very demanding, others less demanding, some are willing to spend money for a monthly fee, other's they won't and they only chance you can get from them some extra bucks is through agressive practises and so on. There's no univeral surfer's profile; also it's important to have in mind the traffic source plays significant role. A free passwords promo page can work well on SE traffic,but it's destiny is to fail in tgp/mgp. When you target tgp/mgp surfers you need to offer them something different, of good quality at least and justify them the money you ask them to pay. Branding of a site is also important, that takes a lot of time and exposure.
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Originally posted by Mad manQuestion about traffic management
The idea is to get as much traffic as possible and convert it to sales. Do you consider any link not leading to a sales page / sign up page a traffic leak. Would it be better to not trade traffic/ link exchange and just purchase traffic. The time saved can be used to refine the conversation rate of your pages.
Pretty much this is the idea. What someone calls a traffic leak can serve a purpose and it depends from the type of site too. If it's a paysite avoid as many traffic leaks as possible including those PPS programs. No $/sale can justify a popup that will take over the signup age and this is a common practise. About traffic purchases, surprisingly this is how I started in adult marketing and it was a long way to learn. I was kind of lucky cause although I'm not a veteran that period the competition was way lower and generating sales was much easier. This means I had an extensive learning time period that wasn't extremely costly like it is now. Before starting buying trafic you need to be sure you hold at least certain webmaster/marketing skills. Sold traffic is by almost by default ovepriced. I would look traffic trades/link exchanges/SEs for start if I were you
Are sign ups so hard to come by that buying traffic should only be used to feed a sites trading / link exchanging productivity. But if the surfer doesn?t sign up at your trade partners site what makes you think they will sign up from your site. For that matter, these traffic sellers are pushing the same or similar sponsors as me, same question applies.
Again it depends the traffic,i assume you are referring to skimmed tgp/mgp traffic, that one is not the best to generate sales. Usually sites that sell such trraffic to brokers have lower quality than the average and smaller % of bookmarkers. You don't see thumbzilla or al4a selling skim traffic for example. And yes,if those sites push the exact same paysites with the ones you do it's possible (not guaranteed) the results will be even worse
Are there traffic sellers with quality traffic that hasn?t been through the gauntlet?
honestly i'm not the best person to answer this,but....Choker traffic is good. Trafficholder.com is another good one.
Are traffic trades only good for gaining search engine exposure?
you mean link exchanges? if so yes, cause usually the traffic coming from those is minimal and hard to monitor what you actually send and what you receive. If you are referring to traffic trades + toplists, those don't play any role on ranking since pretty often they are not hard links but script based.[/b]
Sorry I?m writing a fucking novel here, I?m more interested in the strategy / why do, than the technique how to stuff at this point.
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can i get a lil advice on this Q plz, i know its newbieOriginally posted by TimBlazehere's my embarassing newbie question....
do you think I should submit my galleries to MGP/TGPs without having a TGP of my own? Just hosting the galleries with some crap on the .com index
I currently have a $760/month server setup and am making about $2100 a month in profit from non-xxx shit, I wanna up that number by quite a few hundreds.
Roll that shit, light that shit,
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I was just wondering what you find is the most successful way of gaining traffic to a site without costing insane amounts of moneyComment
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On traffic trading, if I have for example, 20 outs to a trade, and 20 ins from that trade, but productivity is like 50% or any other number below 100%; what would you do? keep the trade because it is fair in the number of ins and outs, or drop it because of low productivity?Comment
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sorry for the delay,i'll reply to the rest today.
Some forms you may possible use (if they are up to date):
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Hi there, this is my first post. This thread is cool, Congrats. I am sure there is going to be a lot to learn for me here. Regards to allMaxlamenace
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Bump for the inbound links question, I found a couple more directories and places i can submit on thelinksmachine but still looking to raise the site profile!
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Hi Soul_Rebel!
First of all...great thread!
Here's my question...
What dyou think is the best way to start in this business today?
Galleries, freesites or other stuff???
I thought about building a link list and submitting freesites to my and other lists.
Do you think its worth the effort or do you have other suggestions?Last edited by metalkid; 10-09-2006, 02:26 AM.ICQ: # 45735783Comment





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