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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942

    #1

    I have $10,000 to spend for promoting Paul Markham Teens.

    So how do I spend it best?

    Buy banners on webmaster boards?

    Buy spots on TGP sites?

    Give it to affiliates in extra promotions?

    What will give us the best return, to spend another $10,000 next month?



    Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
    PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70
  • scotty2hotty1111
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2006
    • 1113

    #2
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    Give it to affiliates in extra promotions?
    ICQ - 278931233




    Giving up is just NOT an option

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    • tony299
      lurker
      • Aug 2002
      • 57021

      #3
      send the check made out to Tony404 lol

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      • Toonlogos
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2002
        • 1104

        #4
        Spend it on some good content. Your current content sucks.

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        • Toonlogos
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2002
          • 1104

          #5
          Originally posted by Toonlogos
          Spend it on some good content. Your current content sucks.
          jk hehheh

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          • Dirty F
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 59204

            #6
            Make a contest on gfy where you give away $100 for every 50th post to some useless post whores who will never send you a hit. All the big companies do this so it must be good for something.

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            • Boobs
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2006
              • 7875

              #7
              sent ya an icq

              Join the fucking best in big tit sponsors!!!

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              • Dirty F
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2001
                • 59204

                #8
                Originally posted by Boobs
                sent ya an icq

                I didn't get it?

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                • L-Pink
                  working on my tan
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 39151

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Franck
                  Make a contest on gfy where you give away $100 for every 50th post to some useless post whores who will never send you a hit. All the big companies do this so it must be good for something.

                  (GFY clothing and accessories) .... longest thread .....

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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94169

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                    Buy banners on webmaster boards?
                    + sigwhores... I'll be available in 18 days !!

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Franck
                      Make a contest on gfy where you give away $100 for every 50th post to some useless post whores who will never send you a hit. All the big companies do this so it must be good for something.
                      No I tried it with content and the sign ups we got were negligible and the traffic poor.

                      Got a better idea though.

                      100% payouts for the sign ups you send over the sign ups you sent last month. So if you sent none and send one you get $30.

                      If you send ten in September and send 100 in October you get 65% on 10 and 100% on the 11th.

                      This pushes the existing to do a bit better.



                      Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                      PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                      • BoyAlley
                        So Fucking Gay
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 19714

                        #12
                        You need to think in terms of creating hype.

                        These "get paid for every post" contest threads or the like won't seperate you from the rest, and higher payouts are a dime a dozen these days, and do little to gain added exposure or get you new affiliates.

                        Spend 3k of GFY top banner spot.
                        Spend 5k on sigs.
                        Spend 2k on a unique contest.

                        Wrap in a couple of press releases, a creative publicity stunt, plus a unique contest concept, and you're gold.
                        Last edited by BoyAlley; 10-01-2006, 10:43 AM.

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                        • Roald
                          SecretFriends.com
                          • May 2001
                          • 27910

                          #13
                          spend some of it on tgp spots, check the results, tweak the tour a bit, test some more, tweak some more, etc That will help you AND your affiliates in the long run imo

                          But you probably knew that allready since you know it all


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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #14
                            Originally posted by QuaShe
                            spend some of it on tgp spots, check the results, tweak the tour a bit, test some more, tweak some more, etc That will help you AND your affiliates in the long run imo

                            But you probably knew that allready since you know it all
                            I'm thinking about spending some money on surfers boards. Do you know any with decent traffic that converts?

                            Never said I know it all, just a lot about a little bit.



                            Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                            PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                            • gangbangjoe
                              Ronin
                              • May 2004
                              • 17693

                              #15
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                              • DamageX
                                Marketing & Strategy
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 14293

                                #16
                                Fuck affiliates. Buy spots.
                                Whitehat is for chumps

                                If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                • ThumbLord

                                  #17
                                  spend some on extra traffic

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                                  • Roald
                                    SecretFriends.com
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 27910

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                    I'm thinking about spending some money on surfers boards. Do you know any with decent traffic that converts?

                                    Never said I know it all, just a lot about a little bit.
                                    Lol I should post a screencap to show how it works out for us but I am about to go in a few.

                                    Too bad you closed our account paul when we banned you from our board for spamming your shit (after I warned youthe first time). Too bad you didn't want to work with us when I contacted you ;))))

                                    Oh and maybe you never said it but you surely act like you know it all

                                    Good night and see you in Berlin, cheers!


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                                    • DamageX
                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 14293

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by QuaShe
                                      Lol I should post a screencap to show how it works out for us but I am about to go in a few.

                                      Too bad you closed our account paul when we banned you from our board for spamming your shit (after I warned youthe first time). Too bad you didn't want to work with us when I contacted you ;))))

                                      Oh and maybe you never said it but you surely act like you know it all

                                      Good night and see you in Berlin, cheers!
                                      It's never to late to learn that burning bridges isn't a good thing to do.
                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                      • elron
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 1553

                                        #20
                                        spend the money on a designer who will make your tours convert better , that's the best tip you gonna get .

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                                        • dissipate
                                          The Dirty Frenchman
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 8904

                                          #21
                                          Buy me hookers, drugs, and alcohol.

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                                          • tranza
                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 57559

                                            #22
                                            You could give our submission services a try.

                                            Are most loyal customers are paysite owners.

                                            See sig for info: www.qualityhandsubmissions.com
                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                            • Rui
                                              web
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 9533

                                              #23
                                              Maybe we could work a cross-promotion deal ;)

                                              Then again Quashe post scared me :S oyhhh
                                              Last edited by Rui; 10-01-2006, 12:50 PM.

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                                              • madawgz
                                                8.8.8.8
                                                • Mar 2006
                                                • 30509

                                                #24
                                                give it to me, i will say promote paul markham teens in every thread i post in ;)
                                                TAEMDLRMSKRJIXMRLSMRJ.

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                                                • Paul Markham
                                                  Too old to care
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 52942

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by DamageX
                                                  It's never to late to learn that burning bridges isn't a good thing to do.
                                                  He burned it and continues to burn it.

                                                  I was posting on his board in reply to people asking SPECIFICALLY about a model featured on our site, some were exclusive to us. I did not start threads, I rarely replied to the thread, just gave them a link to the girls model page or a gallery. A link his surfers were asking for. I had surfers replying to my posts.

                                                  If he does not want to work his board I thought I would try it. The traffic from the board with my work was negligible, he was sending 1-2 sign ups a month. He banned me from posting, big fucking deal.

                                                  I will not bother about a guy sending 1-2 sign ups a month and does not want me to work his board.



                                                  Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                  PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by elron
                                                    spend the money on a designer who will make your tours convert better , that's the best tip you gonna get .
                                                    We did that and the tour converted worse. The site converts well enough, maybe the non professional design makes it stand out.

                                                    How much traffic do you send us? As you know how badly we convert it.



                                                    Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                    PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                      Too old to care
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 52942

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Rui
                                                      Maybe we could work a cross-promotion deal ;)

                                                      Then again Quashe post scared me :S oyhhh
                                                      I'm getting a section inside the paysite to feature partners FHGs, if you want to feature there hit me up.



                                                      Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                      PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                      • Mr.Right - Banned For Life
                                                        I guarantee it
                                                        • May 2005
                                                        • 18314

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Franck
                                                        Make a contest on gfy where you give away $100 for every 50th post to some useless post whores who will never send you a hit. All the big companies do this so it must be good for something.

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                                                        • Tuga
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 7678

                                                          #29
                                                          Hit me up and buy a big banner spot on a 60k blog, that should be worth something

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                                                          • elron
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 1553

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                            We did that and the tour converted worse. The site converts well enough, maybe the non professional design makes it stand out.

                                                            How much traffic do you send us? As you know how badly we convert it.
                                                            Most common mistake of paysite owners is that they believe that a professional designer has also skills to make the design convert .
                                                            If the conversion went worse it mean the new tours were shity .

                                                            It took me a while to get the concept of what will improve the conversion and what wont . Design level wont change a thing . In your case i can advice you to put 30-40 seconds movie clips of your videos at your video tour , you'll be supprised of how much it will improve your conversion .

                                                            Good luck .
                                                            Last edited by elron; 10-02-2006, 04:16 AM.

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                                                            • Pointless
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 2142

                                                              #31
                                                              I would think about investing in a top banner spot on gfy.

                                                              7k use that on prepaid spots.
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                                                              • Klen
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 32234

                                                                #32
                                                                Perhaps you could invest in on SEO optimizing.Since you have teen niche,try to boost keywords teens to your sites.

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                                                                • Fizzgig
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 9649

                                                                  #33
                                                                  For $5,000 I'll tell you the best way to invest the other half.
                                                                  ---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---

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                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 52942

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ThumbLord
                                                                    spend some on extra traffic
                                                                    Decided to buy some traffic from Ask Jolene.

                                                                    They always do well.

                                                                    Then will be looking at some TGP spots.

                                                                    No comments about my idea to reward "EXTRA" sign ups.

                                                                    What ever you sign up in October 18 to November 18 over and above what you did in the previous month we will pay out 100% on. So if you did nothing, just joined us or never promoted us, you get paid out 100% on everything. Existing affiliates will get 100% on all sign ups over the amount they sent last month.

                                                                    That will motivate everyone in my opinion. But I'm a rookie at driving traffic.



                                                                    Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                                    PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                                    • pawsregd
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                      • 2290

                                                                      #35
                                                                      We got what you need...banner spots, gallery spots and text links...I will ICQ you

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                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by elron
                                                                        Most common mistake of paysite owners is that they believe that a professional designer has also skills to make the design convert .
                                                                        If the conversion went worse it mean the new tours were shity .

                                                                        It took me a while to get the concept of what will improve the conversion and what wont . Design level wont change a thing . In your case i can advice you to put 30-40 seconds movie clips of your videos at your video tour , you'll be supprised of how much it will improve your conversion .

                                                                        Good luck .
                                                                        On affiliates traffic in September we did 1-500 over all, on all traffic we did better. But a lot of that is old members rejoining and traffic sources I'm keeping quiet about.

                                                                        It's also improving since we opened up the tour to show the whole site. We have a 100 page tour.

                                                                        So I don't think the tour does so badly.

                                                                        But the idea of the video clips is good, will update the clips.

                                                                        I would really like to convert more, because I think that's more important then getting traffic, but not sure how to make a big improvement.



                                                                        Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                                        PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                                        • LadyMischief
                                                                          Orgasms N Such!
                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 18135

                                                                          #37
                                                                          You mean you haven't already done a marketing analysis and started figuring out where your best returns will be? Lots of people in here will have advice, but only trial and error is going to tell you personally what's going to work best for your progra.

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                                                                          • xcitecash
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                                            • 801

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Toonlogos
                                                                            Spend it on some good content. Your current content sucks.

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                                                                            • elron
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                              • 1553

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                              So I don't think the tour does so badly.
                                                                              Never said your tours do so badly , only gave you my own exprerience tips

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                                                                              • JimiJimi
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                • 483

                                                                                #40
                                                                                good luck
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                                                                                • Tuga
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 7678

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                  Then will be looking at some TGP spots.
                                                                                  Give some love to blogs too

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                                                                                  • pussyluver
                                                                                    Clueless OleMan
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 11009

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    US to ban all Teen sites within the next year or two. Google will be dropping team sites from the index... Suggest you move on to mature or another niche.

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                                                                                    • ridikuloz
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                                      • 2080

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      get some asian chicks on the site.,
                                                                                      Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.

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                                                                                      • pussyluver
                                                                                        Clueless OleMan
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 11009

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by pussyluver
                                                                                        US to ban all Teen sites within the next year or two. Google will be dropping team sites from the index... Suggest you move on to mature or another niche.

                                                                                        This is why Lightspeed has secretly created another program..... (Don't want to give the secret away)

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                                                                                        • Chris
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                          • 27880

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by BoyAlley
                                                                                          You need to think in terms of creating hype.

                                                                                          These "get paid for every post" contest threads or the like won't seperate you from the rest, and higher payouts are a dime a dozen these days, and do little to gain added exposure or get you new affiliates.

                                                                                          Spend 3k of GFY top banner spot.
                                                                                          Spend 5k on sigs.
                                                                                          Spend 2k on a unique contest.

                                                                                          Wrap in a couple of press releases, a creative publicity stunt, plus a unique contest concept, and you're gold.
                                                                                          i didnt know gays knew how to market properly???
                                                                                          [email protected]

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                                                                                          • tenderobject
                                                                                            Need Designs? 312352846
                                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                                            • 11688

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            more prmo tools paul for affiliates. more and more and more tools affiliates can use.


                                                                                            NEED DESIGNS?!?

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                                                                                            • PMdave
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 1517

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                              So if you did nothing, just joined us or never promoted us, you get paid out 100% on everything. Existing affiliates will get 100% on all sign ups over the amount they sent last month.

                                                                                              That will motivate everyone in my opinion. But I'm a rookie at driving traffic.
                                                                                              Uhm why would you disadvantage existing affiliates? They are the ones you need to take care of in the first place. Create happy affiliates and bump the affiliate referral from 5 to 10%. Ad a contest where the person who reffers the new webmaster with the highest number of signups in a specific time period gets an extra k or two.

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                                                                                              • PMdave
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                                • 1517

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Since you are the producer of all your content:
                                                                                                Get a programmer to create a brandable gallerie system (backgroundcolor adjustable + a top banner with the folowing text: "teenpaysite.com presents Paul Markham Teens"). Ad a brandable "portal" that features all the galleries with the look and feel of a real paysite plugin. Enough pictures on the galleries to make it real enough and just enough content to make sure surfers will have an urge to join the paulmarkhamteens site (I suggest 1 gallerie with 25-30 pics per model). Increase the urge by offering a small dicount on the regular price that's "only available to members of thisteensite.com".
                                                                                                Paysite owners link from their site to the portal with their affiliate id and get their % for evey signup generated.

                                                                                                Upsell & free plugin for other site owners + extra quality traffic for you for well under 10k

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                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 52942

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                  You mean you haven't already done a marketing analysis and started figuring out where your best returns will be? Lots of people in here will have advice, but only trial and error is going to tell you personally what's going to work best for your progra.
                                                                                                  Our best return in on members who cancel and come back in 3 to 6 months.

                                                                                                  It's growing at a very nice rate. They come back for the updates, problem is we can't shoot more and most content providers are poor. But I have any budget I like for new content for the paysite.

                                                                                                  Not going exclusive unless the girl is very special. Members would rather have 10 new sets to one exclusive one.

                                                                                                  This is about new traffic.



                                                                                                  Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                                                                  PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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                                                                                                  • LiveDose
                                                                                                    Show Yer Tits!
                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                    • 25792

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Bet it all on red.

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