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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204
    #1

    Am i the only one who can't seem to convert cam sites.

    I'm sending blog traffic, free site traffic and member area traffic to a few cam sites and nothing...it's doing shit.

    Is it my traffic or what?

    Is anybody actually making good money off those sites?
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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204
      #2
      TOTALS 30435 13235 31 1 $25.00 $0.00 20.0% $ 5.00

      So 30k raws made me 5 bucks with cams.com

      Wtf???

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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204
          #3
          I think it's time to remove a few ads....

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            • Klen
              • Aug 2006
              • 32234
              #4
              Well perhaps your visitors cannot afford to pay for cam access,since they are cost more then ordinary pay site.Also good old video porn can be much better then cam porn beacuse you will never know what you can see there.

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                • Klen
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 32234
                  #5
                  Also you could try some other web cam sponsors until you conclude they all suck or not.

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                    • pr0
                      rockin tha trailerpark
                      • May 2001
                      • 23088
                      #6
                      work with people to optimize it

                      i make roughly $1.70 per click off seo traffic to cam sites
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                        • fuzzylogic
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 4796
                          #7
                          cam sites are a different game than porn sites. you can't expect to convert just by sending to join or main pages like we do with porn sites. It's not like that. I recommend talking to ur rep about where and how to send ur traffic.

                          i have been making my living for 3 years off cam sites

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                            • Brujah
                              Beer Money Baron
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 22157
                              #8
                              I have cam domains for sale.

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                                • justsexxx
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 13723
                                  #9
                                  I suck at it as well. I tried a few cam sponsors....Made a lot of free joins, but no money....
                                  Questions?

                                  ICQ: 125184542

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                                    • Dirty F
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 59204
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by justsexxx
                                      I suck at it as well. I tried a few cam sponsors....Made a lot of free joins, but no money....


                                      .

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                                        • Vite
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2006
                                          • 278
                                          #11
                                          Have you ever tried a different webcam sponsor?

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                                            • lazycash
                                              Troll Patrol
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 15214
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                              TOTALS 30435 13235 31 1 $25.00 $0.00 20.0% $ 5.00

                                              So 30k raws made me 5 bucks with cams.com

                                              Wtf???
                                              Your first mistake was sending to cams.com, probably one of the worst $/unique of any of the cam sponsors. Trying sending to a free join program like ifriends, mtree, hsn or camazoncash and you'll see much better results.
                                              "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                              Its crazy..."

                                              VenusBlogger

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                                                • lazycash
                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 15214
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                                  I have cam domains for sale.
                                                  Can you email me the list with pricing to webcams @ qwest.net
                                                  "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                  Its crazy..."

                                                  VenusBlogger

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                                                    • KingK7
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 6372
                                                      #14
                                                      Yeah, I am pulling a few links from members areas myself.

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                                                        • fallenmuffin
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                          • 8170
                                                          #15
                                                          Nope, its everyone lol i'm removing my ads today as well

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                                                            • Maxxx9000
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 1082
                                                              #16
                                                              I'm getting one sale for every 40 members on Cams.com. It was way more last month though.. Not sure exactly what i'm doing right. But Cam sites totaly works for me. I'm making a whole lot more on cams than on Videos or images... My total this whole year at cams.com is 1 sale for every 24 members. It has been a really bad month though...
                                                              Cams.com paid for my car - Love you guys

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                                                                • Antonio
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 14136
                                                                  #17
                                                                  cams, hardcore, softcore, whatever - this month suck dick for me, if it goes the same way the begining of the next month I'm going to take 10 days off and go on a fucking vacation, working and not making shit is no fun at all

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                                                                    • Digipimp
                                                                      BP4L OT DL
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 13481
                                                                      #18
                                                                      cam sites convert shitty because the cam sites arent really that surfer friendly for the most part. no mention of prices half the time, girls dont speak english very well or care about the customer as they're on 10 different sites at the same time, some sites prices are too high, 4.99 a minute is ridiculous these days as well as being able to sign up with no credit card and sit in free videochats with hundreds of girls for an unlimited amount of time everyday for the rest of your life.

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                                                                        • Dwreck
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                          • 7362
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Im willing to sit down with you Franck and have Gunner and myself go over your sites and figure out the best plan.

                                                                          How long have you been promoting webcams in general?
                                                                          Derek *Dwreck* Smout
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                                                                            • squishypimp
                                                                              PostMaster General
                                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                                              • 10781
                                                                              #20
                                                                              change sponsors, it should work then

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                                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 59204
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Dwreck
                                                                                  Im willing to sit down with you Franck and have Gunner and myself go over your sites and figure out the best plan.

                                                                                  How long have you been promoting webcams in general?
                                                                                  Well thanks but thats not really worth my time. I rather just forget about it. I mean i have no problems selling other stuff so i dont see what i should suddenly concentrate on cams.

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                                                                                    • gfx3
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                                      • 1685
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                      TOTALS 30435 13235 31 1 $25.00 $0.00 20.0% $ 5.00

                                                                                      So 30k raws made me 5 bucks with cams.com

                                                                                      Wtf???
                                                                                      Hey Franck are you using just cams.com?

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                                                                                        • Huggles
                                                                                          GFY'S #1 retard
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 12567
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Franck, GTS has secretly targetted you and you are being shaved!



                                                                                          Once I remember I stole a spring roll from Mark's plate in the Mandalay bay buffet, 2 days later at home 3 black helicopters buzzed my house!
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                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by squishypimp
                                                                                              change sponsors, it should work then
                                                                                              Fucking idiot. You have no clue whatsoever about anything sponsor related. Please shut the fuck up stupid surfer.

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                                                                                                • gfx3
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                  • 1685
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Franck put on your icq majin kintaro that's you isn't it?

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                                                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                      • 59204
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by gfx3
                                                                                                      Franck put on your icq majin kintaro that's you isn't it?
                                                                                                      Thats me. But dont bother hitting me up. Im not interested in another sponsor.

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                                                                                                        • dissipate
                                                                                                          The Dirty Frenchman
                                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                                          • 8904
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I wont touch cam sites with a 10 foot pole - fuckers never convert for me.

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                                                                                                            • Bossman
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                                                              • 1263
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                              TOTALS 30435 13235 31 1 $25.00 $0.00 20.0% $ 5.00

                                                                                                              So 30k raws made me 5 bucks with cams.com

                                                                                                              Wtf???
                                                                                                              Our traffic gets 1 free member per 14-16 uniques, and your traffic is 1 free member per 426 uniques... doesn´t look good!

                                                                                                              Your free member to sale ratio looks below average - could be better...

                                                                                                              We are sending typin, se and free site (text link) traffic.
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                                                                                                                • tranza
                                                                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                  • 57559
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Overall conversion for me is around 1:3,000

                                                                                                                  Cams suck for me too.

                                                                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                                                                    • Huggles
                                                                                                                      GFY'S #1 retard
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                      • 12567
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                      Thats me. But dont bother hitting me up. Im not interested in another sponsor.


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                                                                                                                      Yes, yes you are Franck.... yeeeeessss...
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                                                                                                                        • DutchTeenCash
                                                                                                                          I like Dutch Girls
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                          • 21684
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          conversions arent amazing

                                                                                                                          but still im pushing some 40X traffic to AFF and getting nice results

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                                                                                                                            • Huggles
                                                                                                                              GFY'S #1 retard
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 12567
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                                                              Overall conversion for me is around 1:3,000

                                                                                                                              Cams suck for me too.



                                                                                                                              That looks like my stats remote from monday and Today



                                                                                                                              Nothing like 600k uniques in traffic and shitty sales days!
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                                                                                                                                • gfx3
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 1685
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                                  Thats me. But dont bother hitting me up. Im not interested in another sponsor.
                                                                                                                                  It's not about the sponsor (yes I would have suggested you a different one) but it's also about the tools + the way you are marketing the cams. Perhaps you just need to look for a new angle

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                                                                                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 59204
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gfx3
                                                                                                                                      It's not about the sponsor (yes I would have suggested you a different one) but it's also about the tools + the way you are marketing the cams. Perhaps you just need to look for a new angle
                                                                                                                                      I'm gonna pull all links today. Thanks anyway.

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                                                                                                                                        • uno
                                                                                                                                          RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 18450
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Huggles
                                                                                                                                          Franck, GTS has secretly targetted you and you are being shaved!



                                                                                                                                          Once I remember I stole a spring roll from Mark's plate in the Mandalay bay buffet, 2 days later at home 3 black helicopters buzzed my house!
                                                                                                                                          So I'm not the only one?
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                                                                                                                                            • TheSenator
                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 13330
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Best thing to do is admit your traffic is not converting into paying webcam customers.

                                                                                                                                              I usually let my traffic go for about 4 to 6 months until I start making some real cash, if not I switch out programs.

                                                                                                                                              I have been lucky with the "webcam" niche for years. I know exactly what they are looking for and how to make them pay for it. I have many accounts spread out over multiple webcam affiliates and rotate them out all year long.
                                                                                                                                              ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                                                                                                                                • sandman!
                                                                                                                                                  Icq: 14420613
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 15427
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  i will buy all your cam traffic if you want to sell it
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                                                                                                                                                    • John Marco
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 912
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      you have to promote the sites much differently than you would regular paysites. The affiliates who do the best are those that make their own custom pages and just link to join forms.. it takes a lot more effort than just linking straight to a paysite tour that sells itself a bit more
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                                                                                                                                                        • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                                          :glugglug
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 26118
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Of all the cam programs I promote, I only have 1 that does well consistently.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Fizzgig
                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 9649
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I never had any luck, but it seems like they would convert the best since cams are one of the most popular items in paysite member areas.
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                                                                                                                                                                • BSleazy
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 6721
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                                                                  I'm sending blog traffic, free site traffic and member area traffic to a few cam sites and nothing...it's doing shit.

                                                                                                                                                                  Is it my traffic or what?

                                                                                                                                                                  Is anybody actually making good money off those sites?
                                                                                                                                                                  Free search engine traffic looking for cams, converts great...although I haven't had it in a while.

                                                                                                                                                                  Anyone with a little money to throw at a few things can easily get it. I should consult. I know everything but my monster debt and child support leaves me with nothing.
                                                                                                                                                                  icq 156131086

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                                                                                                                                                                    • BSleazy
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 6721
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by John Marco
                                                                                                                                                                      you have to promote the sites much differently than you would regular paysites. The affiliates who do the best are those that make their own custom pages and just link to join forms.. it takes a lot more effort than just linking straight to a paysite tour that sells itself a bit more

                                                                                                                                                                      He's right on that. Join forms seem to work the best especially for cam sites that have free or $1 lifetime joins with cc. Webcams.com converts good though for 4.99. But you can't throw general traffic at this. Has to be people looking for cams. "cams" isn't the keyword(s) you want to target either.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                          lurker
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          dont feel bad your not alone got a great domain chubbycams.com and it did squat. We tried ifriends for awhile and not much now its for my wife on camz and we still dont get much.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • TheJimmy
                                                                                                                                                                              ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 10747
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I do 1:100 to 1:500 at worst, when it goes over that I get a bit tripped out.

                                                                                                                                                                              Hit me up if you want any tips on the promo's you're using, also depends on the source of traffic of course...
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                                                                                                                                                                                • RawAlex
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 9465
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Okay, here is the deal (as far as I can tell); If you are marketing to used porn surfers (TGP traffic, link list traffic, etc) you are pretty much screwed. By the time the surfer gets to you, he has already seen X number of cam and dating site links. Basically he is already bored of those things and doesn't want it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  It you are marketing UP the chain a bit (even at the TGP or link site level) you have a little bit more chance.

                                                                                                                                                                                  if you are marketing UP the chain further (direct SE traffic, targetted trades, non-porn entertainment sites) then you are likely doing much better.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, and if you are trying to get into it now, you are too late... Once someone signs up once, they are someone else's client for life (and the cam system's if they paid flat rate once). Basically, if you are sending high volumes of the lowest end traffic, you are someone else's traffic bitch, and you won't make a penny.

                                                                                                                                                                                  (note, my same opinion applied to poker and dating sites... if you are late to the game, you are someone else's bitch making no money and giving your traffic away).

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Kevsh
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 8619
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                                                                                                      Well thanks but thats not really worth my time. I rather just forget about it. I mean i have no problems selling other stuff so i dont see what i should suddenly concentrate on cams.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Don't let your bad experience to date deter you, blog/member area traffic is hard to convert - ideally, you need quality seo traffic but if that's not doable try converting niche traffic to niche cam sites/sections. Most programs have promo materials for the major niches and/or let you link directly to profiles in that niche.

                                                                                                                                                                                      As far as motivation, think of 20% lifetime revshare (about standard) and customers dropping up to $100 at a time. Lots of customers go on a binge and drop a few hundred dollars a day. Try making that with pay sites!

                                                                                                                                                                                      Not every customer of course is a whale, but I've had one for example 2 1/2 years running on one cam site. I'd estimate he's made me $3000+ alone. How many joins and rebills would you have to get to come close to that? Again, not everyone is like him, but you do get "medium fish" fairly often who drop a few hundred before they quit/go somewhere else.

                                                                                                                                                                                      The money is there, you just have to stick with it and work until you find the right fit.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by Kevsh; 09-30-2006, 09:27 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Solid Bob
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 1213
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Franck, if you want to give cams a try again drop me an email sometime. The promo is usually done a bit different, some sponsors are better than others, etc.
                                                                                                                                                                                          [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • SolidScripting
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 120
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Solid Bob
                                                                                                                                                                                              Franck, if you want to give cams a try again drop me an email sometime. The promo is usually done a bit different, some sponsors are better than others, etc.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm sure I'll seem biased here, but Bob does know how to convert some cams.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Hit him up if you still want to tap that income.



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                                                                                                                                                                                                • sicone
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Retired
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 18453
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I have never had much luck with cams or dating sites

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • BigCashCrew
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3570
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Franck, I'm not sure how you are promoting but keep in mind, if it is revshare give it some time. Over time your free users will come back and spend money. It will start adding up if you stick with it. Also look at how you are marketing it. I can give you some free chat credits to my sites so you can get into the mind set of a webcam surfer.

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