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04-01-2009, 07:30 PM

htpasswd, nats admins, email, doesnt matter what, you are hacked! most of you ... but i know you dont care, lets fight the people who are using those hacked logins to share galleries at rapidshare! thats the way to go!

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04-01-2009, 07:39 PM

http://bettercgi.com/strongbox/ ... the only way to go ... btw i see people switching from strongbox to other systems, ... are you mad?

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04-01-2009, 07:41 PM

are you mindwaste's other personality?

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04-01-2009, 07:43 PM

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are you mindwaste's other personality?

i dont know who you are but i think the guy in your avatar is not you

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04-01-2009, 07:47 PM

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04-01-2009, 07:48 PM

Strongbox is good but I think ProxyPass is even better. Just my opinion.

Both of these services make shared passwords a thing of the past.
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04-01-2009, 07:49 PM

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i dont know who you are but i think the guy in your avatar is not you

Well thats too bad, because I fully believe you are really a dancing rudolph

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04-01-2009, 08:07 PM

there is about 6k passes posted today for april day, every sponsor max 20 passwords, just do yout counts. and those passwords are not bruteforced ... use your brain ...

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04-02-2009, 12:22 AM

Strongbox is good for sure.
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04-04-2009, 07:03 AM

Strongbox and both proxypass are useless. All it does is block your members and cause your customer service level to go up. But that's my opinion

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04-04-2009, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by rhcp011235

Strongbox and both proxypass are useless. All it does is block your members and cause your customer service level to go up. But that's my opinion

isnt strongbox sending automatic new generated pass to email when the old one is blocked? if not, why not?!

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04-04-2009, 11:00 AM

It is, but what good does it do, when your whole member userbase is raped, and when 100 people get blocked, they just re-issue another batch. In no time, you have your whole userbase passwords changed, and a hell of a lot of explaining to do to members.

And only to have it repeat a day or 2 after when they come back to fetch the new userbase...

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04-04-2009, 11:04 AM

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Strongbox is good but I think ProxyPass is even better. Just my opinion.

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04-04-2009, 11:07 AM

teencat is so retarded
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04-04-2009, 07:46 PM

Just host with isprime and use primecop There password service is 100% better then any other

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04-04-2009, 09:51 PM

This thread is hillarious.. everyone talking about how to prevent the stolen passes etc. to get into the site but not one fucking post talking about how the sponsor servers are compromised in the first place..
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04-05-2009, 10:34 AM

Who's server's are compromised? And what evidence do you have to suggest that they are?
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04-05-2009, 10:46 AM

Nice contest! I will send my contribution as soon as I am done eating this owl

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04-05-2009, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Tempest

This thread is hillarious.. everyone talking about how to prevent the stolen passes etc. to get into the site but not one fucking post talking about how the sponsor servers are compromised in the first place..

It's because it's bullshit... 75% aren't hacked, 75% haven't EVER been hacked, 75% haven't even been found by the password sites to fucking hack. They can't REALLY hack more than 10% of the sites.... What is a fact is the SAME 75% of the passwords are of the same crap sites or fake member areas....

That's why nobody is talking about it - it's total bullshit.

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04-05-2009, 10:53 AM

ok guys ... do i need to run a report? am i able to post here few quality, as you say "unhackable" sites, with passwords and many times also with review sites promo passes, what will be prove those sites are not hacked by bruteforce? how can you guys say that its not true when you see only to google and maybe some irc channel?

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04-05-2009, 10:59 AM

ok, there are some paysite owners in this thread, so ... check your passfiles, here is only one example ...

site:pass*
pinupfiles:mardi*
boozedwomen:ms19*

... any other paysite owner here? anyone with strongbox or some other good security proggie? lets wake up finally ...

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04-05-2009, 11:13 AM

It's funny how whenever several Strongbox users post about how well
the system works, they are always followed by a couple of people who
have never seen Strongbox who post talking trash, but saying things that
make it obvious that they are totally unfamiliar with the system. Most likely
these two people have never even SEEN Strongbox, based on some of the
things they've said. I don't understand that at all. Why the need to try to
put someone down and damage their reputation when you are totally
unfamiliar with them? Do I go around saying that your sites have the
worst conversion rate because they have dozens of popups? They don't
actually have nay popups, probably, just as the crap you say about
Strongbox is factually untrue false. What's the deal? Did we piss you
off in a past life so now you're spreading lies about us in this life?

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04-05-2009, 11:15 AM

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04-05-2009, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by raymor

It's funny how whenever several Strongbox users post about how well
the system works, they are always followed by a couple of people who
have never seen Strongbox who post talking trash, but saying things that
make it obvious that they are totally unfamiliar with the system. Most likely
these two people have never even SEEN Strongbox, based on some of the
things they've said. I don't understand that at all. Why the need to try to
put someone down and damage their reputation when you are totally
unfamiliar with them? Do I go around saying that your sites have the
worst conversion rate because they have dozens of popups? They don't
actually have nay popups, probably, just as the crap you say about
Strongbox is factually untrue false. What's the deal? Did we piss you
off in a past life so now you're spreading lies about us in this life?

not sure if it was adressed to me, but i said and i will always say that strongbox is one of the best so far! strongbox is on top, hackable but it is pain in ass cause it needs so much proxies that are hard to find these days ... another thing is, security of the paysite owners, if they cannot hide htpasswd file or secure their email or database, its not about strongbox then ... respect and go http://bettercgi.com/strongbox/ go!

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04-05-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by TeenCat

ok, there are some paysite owners in this thread, so ... check your passfiles, here is only one example ...

site:pass*
pinupfiles:mardi*
boozedwomen:ms19*

... any other paysite owner here? anyone with strongbox or some other good security proggie? lets wake up finally ...

Ok, so now we are back to sites using password files, which the processors often do not remove passwords when they cancel?

Which often means they are also using standard auth methods, getting bruteforced on usernames that haven't been removed for years.

So the truth is you need to tell them to delete the current files and have the processors rebuild them with active members so 99% of the leaks will stop....

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04-05-2009, 11:38 AM

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Ok, so now we are back to sites using password files, which the processors often do not remove passwords when they cancel?

Which often means they are also using standard auth methods, getting bruteforced on usernames that haven't been removed for years.

So the truth is you need to tell them to delete the current files and have the processors rebuild them with active members so 99% of the leaks will stop....

those are not old passwords, those are actual and check the sites, do you think those are abbandoned and old ones? boozed is few months and pinup was posting about their relaunch few days back ... and its not about rebuilding whole database file, its about changing the password in nats or ccbill or where and send new one to the owner. if you generate it, its small chance that the one will popup at boards again ... with doing that you will spend much less time than sending dmca notices few times per week ...

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04-05-2009, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by TeenCat

those are not old passwords, those are actual and check the sites, do you think those are abbandoned and old ones? boozed is few months and pinup was posting about their relaunch few days back ... and its not about rebuilding whole database file, its about changing the password in nats or ccbill or where and send new one to the owner. if you generate it, its small chance that the one will popup at boards again ... with that you will spend much less time than sending dmca notices few times per week ...

If it's a password file, chances are it's not a nats backend - unless the client never changed over, and then the nats backend wouldn't be able to change the files anyway since the processors do it.

Just because a program was released a few months ago doesn't mean the main site is a few months old - it could be years old.

The majority are still 'old canceled accounts' the mass majority of password leaks once looked up in the processor, are canceled accounts the processor didn't send a cancel notice on. The rest do get a password change, many systems automate it.

Personally I have sent only one DMCA notice, ever. And not for direct piracy but a client. I have promoted on newsgroups, piracy sites, tubes, etc for 10+ years. I have told members that they can download and share the content.

I'm not in that group of people that think piracy or free porn hurt my business, at all. And I still use password sites, fake member areas, trade the traffic off, help rebuild error pages for clients to trap the traffic, and so on...

My efforts aren't to stop piracy or leaks, but to convert the traffic they DO send, why would I take my own in-house traffic away?

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04-05-2009, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

It's because it's bullshit... 75% aren't hacked, 75% haven't EVER been hacked, 75% haven't even been found by the password sites to fucking hack. They can't REALLY hack more than 10% of the sites.... What is a fact is the SAME 75% of the passwords are of the same crap sites or fake member areas....

Lol.

While the "75%" mark is a bit unatianable, with all the wast number of paysites out there, i'm not even sure i've heard of 50% of all the paysites.

However, your other posting that it's mostly "not deleted canceled accounts by processors" and that it's mostly passes for fake member areas or crap sites, is laughable at best.
If i were to go to TBP now for example, i doubt there'd be 1 site in the top 20 of every category that i have not seen it beeing hacked. Is that 75%? No. Are 95% of POPULAR sites hacked, yes, at one point in time (no longer then 5 years).

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04-05-2009, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by ladida

However, your other posting that it's mostly "not deleted canceled accounts by processors" and that it's mostly passes for fake member areas or crap sites, is laughable at best.

Anyone that visits password sites/forums, come on... they all know the lists SUCK... 90% of the sites are the worst sites on the Internet, out of the 10% left - 90% don't work. And huge amounts are total fake member areas, setup with the password site owner and the paysite owner.

That's like 12 years old of tricks man, still being repeated today.

Originally posted by ladida

If i were to go to TBP now for example, i doubt there'd be 1 site in the top 20 of every category that i have not seen it beeing hacked. Is that 75%? No. Are 95% of POPULAR sites hacked, yes, at one point in time (no longer then 5 years).

They aren't hacked at all... Are 95% of the popular sites hacked... Not even close to 5%.

You people have no idea what volume of sales is, what volume of a member base is.. These people get more chargebacks in a day than almost every that has posted in this post gets in SALES a month.

BTW, hacks - very easy to notice. See, what you change a password or a few, if they re-leak - you have been hacked.

More members = More leaks... Not more hacks, not more brute force attacks. Not more requests to be hacked... Just more members giving out passwords. IE: #1, 2 and 3 ways password leaks happen.

I would love more non-password site & non-paysite owners to come educate me though.

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04-05-2009, 12:25 PM

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If it's a password file, chances are it's not a nats backend - unless the client never changed over, and then the nats backend wouldn't be able to change the files anyway since the processors do it.

Just because a program was released a few months ago doesn't mean the main site is a few months old - it could be years old.

The majority are still 'old canceled accounts' the mass majority of password leaks once looked up in the processor, are canceled accounts the processor didn't send a cancel notice on. The rest do get a password change, many systems automate it.

Personally I have sent only one DMCA notice, ever. And not for direct piracy but a client. I have promoted on newsgroups, piracy sites, tubes, etc for 10+ years. I have told members that they can download and share the content.

I'm not in that group of people that think piracy or free porn hurt my business, at all. And I still use password sites, fake member areas, trade the traffic off, help rebuild error pages for clients to trap the traffic, and so on...

My efforts aren't to stop piracy or leaks, but to convert the traffic they DO send, why would I take my own in-house traffic away?

hm man you are one of thousands, i think there are not so many people who dont care about their content. if you allow your members to share your content, there is not needed to new possible buyers to buy it, unless you have big base of addicted fans. anyway, i am again not talking about all those google searched long lasting or exploited passes, but about passes to onlytease, mpl studios, kink, diesel access, payserve and similar quality and rare sites. and i am sorry but i am not sure what you mean with that last traffic sentence ...

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04-05-2009, 12:29 PM

TeenCat re-read what TheDoc said or have someone that understands english explain it to you.
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04-05-2009, 12:30 PM

you are still wrong ... most of the popular sites are hacked, where do you think all the rapidshare material is comming from? buyers are not sharing their password, buyers email or other informations was hacked and used to get already bought password which is then posted in private forums for uploaders ... you see only uploads, but behind it is the pass, which i can kill in minutes ... but about that is the other thread ... fact is that "75%" sites are hacked ...

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04-05-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Ozarkz

TeenCat re-read what TheDoc said or have someone that understands english explain it to you.

yes i know my english sucks, thats my very bad, need to find some online english school ... anyway thanks, going to re read again ...

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04-05-2009, 12:36 PM

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hm man you are one of thousands, i think there are not so many people who dont care about their content. if you allow your members to share your content, there is not needed to new possible buyers to buy it, unless you have big base of addicted fans. anyway, i am again not talking about all those google searched long lasting or exploited passes, but about passes to onlytease, mpl studios, kink, diesel access, payserve and similar quality and rare sites. and i am sorry but i am not sure what you mean with that last traffic sentence ...

First, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to be over exposed online.. If I think I have reached that mark, then my first mistake was made.

Free Porn & Piracy can NEVER dilute you online... At that, the top 20 companies stacked together, still don't reach NastyDollars - So every one of the top 20 can at least say they haven't been EXPOSED ENOUGH........

Do you know why the biggest of the big, lets say about the top 20... hardly ever bitch about Piracy or Password leaks? I'm not talking about theft, or real problems - I'm talking about Tubes, newsgroups, etc - What... have you not noticed the biggest of the big....... Don't care?

So let me get this straight... Programs here on GFY doing 100-300 sales a day (the very very very very very very very rare) do bitch about it, the rest are MUCH smaller...

Now, these guys bitch sales are down, slipping etc..... But what about the guys doing 500-1000 sales a day or more? - How can anyone statistically say piracy or free porn hurts them - if they aren't at atleast doing the sales of the many above them?

And why are these the people bitching, and not the monsters? How can someone do 2 or 3, or 10 times the sales as you, and yet - you think piracy or password leaks... is bad... for you?

I'm just confused... just a confused soul I guess.

You do understand, that the more you remove piracy, the more you remove password leaks, the more you 'try to remove your brand online' - The more the Industry has dropped... Yes, tubes were going 2 years before the drop, newsgroups/piracy etc for 12 years ---- Yet we only started to drop - AFTER people started to bitch and REMOVE THE CONTENT (IE TRAFFIC).....

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04-05-2009, 12:49 PM

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First, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to be over exposed online.. If I think I have reached that mark, then my first mistake was made.

Free Porn & Piracy can NEVER dilute you online... At that, the top 20 companies stacked together, still don't reach NastyDollars - So every one of the top 20 can at least say they haven't been EXPOSED ENOUGH........

Do you know why the biggest of the big, lets say about the top 20... hardly ever bitch about Piracy or Password leaks? I'm not talking about theft, or real problems - I'm talking about Tubes, newsgroups, etc - What... have you not noticed the biggest of the big....... Don't care?

So let me get this straight... Programs here on GFY doing 100-300 sales a day (the very very very very very very very rare) do bitch about it, the rest are MUCH smaller...

Now, these guys bitch sales are down, slipping etc..... But what about the guys doing 500-1000 sales a day or more? - How can anyone statistically say piracy or free porn hurts them - if they aren't at atleast doing the sales of the many above them?

And why are these the people bitching, and not the monsters? How can someone do 2 or 3, or 10 times the sales as you, and yet - you think piracy or password leaks... is bad... for you?

I'm just confused... just a confused soul I guess.

You do understand, that the more you remove piracy, the more you remove password leaks, the more you 'try to remove your brand online' - The more the Industry has dropped... Yes, tubes were going 2 years before the drop, newsgroups/piracy etc for 12 years ---- Yet we only started to drop - AFTER people started to bitch and REMOVE THE CONTENT (IE TRAFFIC).....

hmm man i know that i am just a small drop in the sea, but i am optimistic and i hope more requests from surfers will do more sales ... there is removeyourcontent.com and what i read they are doing good work. but if there will be source for uploaders, there will be still uploads. now you are talking about a traffic from those publicity, but i dont think my project can hurt it, maybe it can bring it to another way. and, here we go, dead passwords can make more sales, as they are doing already for me and sponsors that got killed some passes already

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04-05-2009, 12:55 PM

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hmm man i know that i am just a small drop in the sea, but i am optimistic and i hope more requests from surfers will do more sales ... there is removeyourcontent.com and what i read they are doing good work. but if there will be source for uploaders, there will be still uploads. now you are talking about a traffic from those publicity, but i dont think my project can hurt it, maybe it can bring it to another way. and, here we go, dead passwords can make more sales, as they are doing already for me and sponsors that got killed some passes already

Dead passwords are the king - but that is what the protection systems are for. Tease a little to keep the password up, then kill it for the traffic/sales, or whatever they are doing.

I don't think I bashed your idea, just that I don't think big sites give a shit - and the small just need to be informed.

Think ANY company can PROVE that using a removal system, has "increased" sales due to a drop in Piracy? - I highly doubt it or the buzz would be alllllllll over the Industry.

But I can guarantee you, they are all still using the service because they think it is 'what is hurting them'... and this is helping - even though they can't prove it.

Directions: Move Keyboard - Take Head - Bash on desk .... that's all the majority in this industry need to do.

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04-05-2009, 02:55 PM

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They aren't hacked at all... Are 95% of the popular sites hacked... Not even close to 5%.

You really have no idea . It is astounding to me how with such certainty you try to speak about things you have no idea about.

If this was something owners openly talked about, you might have an idea, however, noone is going to admit "yes, we got hacked, all our data leaked, including affiliate data, and member address and emails".

I can only ask you one last thing, was your program hacked? (while you had it) ?

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