Originally Posted by split_joel

I honestly think Ortan was a great scrambler, remember that is how he got injurded, when he was hit out of bonds. Fact is he returned to early in the season and did not heal all the way. I think if Ortan had the chance we would have had some great deep balls, problem is our damn receivers can't hold onto shit.

I am not denying Bitchler is a rare talent but his attitude is that of a whinny little bitch and I do not see him as a leader. I think lovie will also have pissed off players because Lovie last week said Ortan was our quarter back and traded him without question.

Fact is we had ortan all this time and lovie stuck with grossman till last season and that was a mistake. I think ortan will prove everyone wrong when he shines in denver.