So if/when marijuana gets legalized... - GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

X

MildGuy

Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009

Posts: 19
Share

Post
#1

So if/when marijuana gets legalized...

03-30-2009, 09:33 AM

what do they say to all the locked up non-violent offenders in prison?

Just instantly release them?

What does they government say to them?

"LOL, sorry guys. You got trolled hard."

Yahoo: Ins0mniak [at] yahoo.com
MSN: gb2kitchen [at] live.com
Tags: None
candyflip

Carpe Visio

Join Date: Jul 2002

Posts: 43069
Share

Post
#2

03-30-2009, 09:35 AM

Are there really that many people locked away in the prison system on pot related charges?

I'd be interested in seeing what that number is.

Spend you some brain.
Email Me
Comment
Horny Dude

Earn enough to buy coffee

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 4913
Share

Post
#3

03-30-2009, 09:36 AM

Didn't we here in Ca. vote to legalize marijuana for medical purposes? Yet I still hear how he cops are busting medical marijuana places all over Ca. Guess our votes don't count.
Comment
candyflip

Carpe Visio

Join Date: Jul 2002

Posts: 43069
Share

Post
#4

03-30-2009, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Horny Dude

Didn't we here in Ca. vote to legalize marijuana for medical purposes? Yet I still hear how he cops are busting medical marijuana places all over Ca. Guess our votes don't count.

The State has legalized it for that purpose, the Federal gov't hasn't. The feds are the ones doing the raids. But, under the new administration this has been put to an end.

Spend you some brain.
Email Me
Comment
»Rob Content«

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 4348
Share

Post
#5

03-30-2009, 09:43 AM

If weed became legal it would create a huge mess for pot smokers, a very large mess. Anyone who wants pot legalized is obviously not a pot smoker, or has smoked soo much of it that they are a fucking melt.

You want it to be decriminalized and not made legal. Huge difference

80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
>> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom
Comment
DrChango

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2008

Posts: 938
Share

Post
#6

03-30-2009, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by candyflip

Are there really that many people locked away in the prison system on pot related charges?

I'd be interested in seeing what that number is.

Don't have the stats handy, but I remember reading somewhere it was around a third of the prison population (which would be hundreds of thousands) were in prison for non-violent drug-related charges. Didn't say how many of those were pot-smokers, but I would guess the majority of them.

Jacob Stiver
Mobile Monkey
Topbucks|Pink Visual|Plug In Feeds
E-Mail: [email protected]
ICQ#: 388847435
Comment
candyflip

Carpe Visio

Join Date: Jul 2002

Posts: 43069
Share

Post
#7

03-30-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by DrChango

Don't have the stats handy, but I remember reading somewhere it was around a third of the prison population (which would be hundreds of thousands) were in prison for non-violent drug-related charges. Didn't say how many of those were pot-smokers, but I would guess the majority of them.

Quite a few? Possible. Majority? I don't know.

I don't know anyone who's even spent an hour in jail on pot charges.

Spend you some brain.
Email Me
Comment
FrozenJag

Confirmed User

Join Date: Oct 2006

Posts: 1763
Share

Post
#8

03-30-2009, 09:53 AM

Wont ever happen. Just seen a thing on cnn the other day where they asked obama straight up and he said no. Was not an option as far as he was concerned.
Comment
Oracle Porn

Affiliate

Join Date: Oct 2002

Posts: 24433
Share

Post
#9

03-30-2009, 09:55 AM

there's this song...it's called DREAMS
Comment
Scott McD

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Nov 2002

Posts: 67798
Share

Post
#10

03-30-2009, 09:59 AM

Why do people depend on that shit anyway? I know some fucking idiots who have smoked that much they don't even know what day it is. If it gets legalized, then we will have more walking around like that. No thanks...

I Buy My High Quality Traffic Here, You Should Too!
Comment
notoldschool

Confirmed User

Join Date: Aug 2007

Posts: 5687
Share

Post
#11

03-30-2009, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by candyflip

Are there really that many people locked away in the prison system on pot related charges?

I'd be interested in seeing what that number is.

I believe its 70 percent of our prison inmates in us are non-violent and 70 percent of those are for marijuana specifically.

legalization will NEVER happen.

No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand

http://www.bjpenn.com
Comment
notoldschool

Confirmed User

Join Date: Aug 2007

Posts: 5687
Share

Post
#12

03-30-2009, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Scott McD

Why do people depend on that shit anyway? I know some fucking idiots who have smoked that much they don't even know what day it is. If it gets legalized, then we will have more walking around like that. No thanks...

LOL...go drink a beer and start a fight. I can do without sloppy disgusting alchohol drinking retards. I also cant stand pill poppers...You are so off base its not worth rebutting your ignorance.

No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
-- Learned Hand

http://www.bjpenn.com
Comment
brassmonkey

Pay It Forward

Join Date: Sep 2005

Posts: 77396
Share

Post
#13

03-30-2009, 10:04 AM

they will never make it legal but u can just smoke it anyway

TRUMP 2026 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law!
DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com
Comment
MildGuy

Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009

Posts: 19
Share

Post
#14

03-30-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

If weed became legal it would create a huge mess for pot smokers, a very large mess. Anyone who wants pot legalized is obviously not a pot smoker, or has smoked soo much of it that they are a fucking melt.

You want it to be decriminalized and not made legal. Huge difference

Would prisoners still be released i it was decriminalized?

Yahoo: Ins0mniak [at] yahoo.com
MSN: gb2kitchen [at] live.com
Comment
Oracle Porn

Affiliate

Join Date: Oct 2002

Posts: 24433
Share

Post
#15

03-30-2009, 10:11 AM

hey what day is it today btw?
Comment
candyflip

Carpe Visio

Join Date: Jul 2002

Posts: 43069
Share

Post
#16

03-30-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by notoldschool

I believe its 70 percent of our prison inmates in us are non-violent and 70 percent of those are for marijuana specifically.

legalization will NEVER happen.

That's crazy. I know that's not the case here in NY. I got stopped a few times as a kid with some pot in my pocket and the cops always just took it and probably smoked it when they got home.

Spend you some brain.
Email Me
Comment
candyflip

Carpe Visio

Join Date: Jul 2002

Posts: 43069
Share

Post
#17

03-30-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by brassmonkey

they will never make it legal but u can just smoke it anyway

Exactly. I'm on my way out to pick up this week's supply.

Spend you some brain.
Email Me
Comment
tical

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 6504
Share

Post
#18

03-30-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

If weed became legal it would create a huge mess for pot smokers, a very large mess. Anyone who wants pot legalized is obviously not a pot smoker, or has smoked soo much of it that they are a fucking melt.

You want it to be decriminalized and not made legal. Huge difference

How would it create a huge mess for pot smokers if it was legalized?

112.020.756
Comment
michael.kickass

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Mar 2009

Posts: 11039
Share

Post
#19

03-30-2009, 10:19 AM

If it gets legal people imprisoned for pot related charges will have to do their time anyway since they were imprisoned before it was made legal.

NICERATIOS - $30 PPS - 50% Rev Share - 5% WM Referral - High Converting Sites!
Any questions about your NICERATIOS account? Vanessa will take care of you: [email protected]

Looking to expand your business in general, maybe sell your sites? Contact me:
[email protected]
Comment
Tom_PM

Porn Meister

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 16443
Share

Post
#20

03-30-2009, 10:21 AM

Thats an interesting point. If I was in jail for 5 years on pot possession, then it's made legal, I should be released IMHO. However, I dont think I should be entitled to compensation like I would if I was accused of rape but was cleared by modern DNA techniques.

But I doubt that "simple possession" is why most are in there.. they probably were also brought up on "intent to distribute" or other charges like that. Growing, selling etc. would not be made "legal", so no luck for probably 90% of them.

43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
Comment
Bored

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 1011
Share

Post
#21

03-30-2009, 10:23 AM

I dont think its relevant to be honest. Of course if there are a lot of people in jail for simple possession, I would imagine they would get released.

If Satan Wore a Hairpeice, there would be HELL TOUPEE!!
HTML Porn
pbbc fo li
Comment
MildGuy

Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2009

Posts: 19
Share

Post
#22

03-30-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by michael.kickass

If it gets legal people imprisoned for pot related charges will have to do their time anyway since they were imprisoned before it was made legal.

That's how I believe it will be as well.

It just doesn't seem right.

It doesn't seem right to say "okay, if you had the substance between before we all agreed it was legal, then you must spend years of your life behind bars + felony conviction so good luck with getting a job. But if you had the substance after we all agreed to legalize it, then you're fine. But even though it's okay now, you guys still have to serve your time when we didn't feel like legalizing it."

I say legalizing, but substitute with whatever you want, decriminalize or whatever.

Mexican president begging Obama to legalize it.

Yahoo: Ins0mniak [at] yahoo.com
MSN: gb2kitchen [at] live.com
Comment
pornguy

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Mar 2003

Posts: 62912
Share

Post
#23

03-30-2009, 10:28 AM

One way or another this is going to create a mess.

PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!
Comment
LAJ

Gingerific

Join Date: Jun 2001

Posts: 5567
Share

Post
#24

03-30-2009, 10:30 AM

Yeah... all the non-violet users SHOULD be released.

YNOT.com - The original industry resource
email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting
Comment
Darkland

Confirmed User

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 1488
Share

Post
#25

03-30-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Scott McD

Why do people depend on that shit anyway? I know some fucking idiots who have smoked that much they don't even know what day it is. If it gets legalized, then we will have more walking around like that. No thanks...

No different the Alcoholics.

Originally posted by MildGuy

what do they say to all the locked up non-violent offenders in prison?

Just instantly release them?

What does they government say to them?

"LOL, sorry guys. You got trolled hard."

No, if a law changes it doesn't become retroactive. If you got caught when it was still illegal, THAT is the time you are going to do. Not a hard concept to understand.

"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01
Comment
Darkland

Confirmed User

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 1488
Share

Post
#26

03-30-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by MildGuy

It just doesn't seem right.

Many things in this world aren't right. Case in point...

In you kill an enemy wearing your countries colors it is patriotic.

You kill an enemy without government approval it is manslaughter or murder.

Life could not function without hypocrisy.

"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives." H.S.T. 09/12/01
Comment
bufferover

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jan 2004

Posts: 25209
Share

Post
#27

03-30-2009, 10:44 AM

I hope that i will see that day when the weed will be legal here
Comment
»Rob Content«

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 4348
Share

Post
#28

03-30-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by LAJ

Yeah... all the non-violet users SHOULD be released.

Fully agree with this.

80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
>> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom
Comment
»Rob Content«

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 4348
Share

Post
#29

03-30-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by tical

How would it create a huge mess for pot smokers if it was legalized?

There is a plethora of things that would create a mess. How about how much the government would tax marijuana. Remember now if it was legalized you have have to go to the store to buy it, and the store would have hours. And the better the weed the higher the price. So what you pay now for say an ounce of good weed, would be a lot more expensive. Because it would become a mainstream multi million dollar operation. Also remember it would still be illegal to grow, and there would be rules and licensing to growing it, and well all the small time guys would be put out of business because the tobacco companies would open large growing operations.

You know about DUI... There would be a DUH driving while high, yes it would 100% happen. So no more smoking a J and then driving home, pulled over and fucked.

It would be a true nightmare for pot smokers are the gov would mandate everything, tax the shit out of it. Just like smokes you would have a state and federal tax, and since they would want to get as much out of it as possible it would be taxed to all hell.

And then it would also become hip and trendy, so you'd have the cheap weed and the designer weed. It would be the same as alcohol, the better the wine the more you pay. So when it would come to getting some nice BC budz that are nice and sticky, be ready to pay 3 times what you pay now, can't afford it all the time, get ready for a lot more brown and dry mexican stuff.

The prices would also become a lot more expensive when you take into consideration of the shipping of the marijuana from where it is grown to where it will be distrusted. So if it's grown in say California, it will need to be shipped around the country and real companies would have to be used. This will need to take into cost of operating a business. When I send it out I will have to use a proper service, pay someone to load and unload it, package it, the shipment itself. Getting weed from somewhere not in the USA you have to pay the importing tax as well.

No more giving someone a free ounce or two and having them drive a trunkload of it somewhere.

I can go on and on for hours, but these are just a few things.

80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
>> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom
Comment
Ace_luffy

www.creationcrew.com

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 12164
Share

Post
#30

03-30-2009, 11:08 AM

++ Adult and Mainstream Websites Designs | 10 banners for only $50 | html5 Banners ++
email : [email protected] Telegram : https://t.me/creationcrew WhatsApp : +63 956 420 4819 | HTML5/Responsive Site - Div/CSS - ElevatedX - NATs - Wordpress
Comment
Stephen

Consigliere

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 1771
Share

Post
#31

03-30-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

Remember now if it was legalized you have have to go to the store to buy it, and the store would have hours. And the better the weed the higher the price. So what you pay now for say an ounce of good weed, would be a lot more expensive. Because it would become a mainstream multi million dollar operation.

There are beautiful (and not so) dispenseries all around California where you can walk in (with your card / rec) and peruse a wide variety of high-quality, medicinal offerings ? row upon row of jars with sample buds in them. Sure, the price can be high (no pun intended), with 1/8s up to $55 ? but this is typically a lot better quality than the $200/oz you might get from a friend or out on the street...

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

Also remember it would still be illegal to grow, and there would be rules and licensing to growing it, and well all the small time guys would be put out of business because the tobacco companies would open large growing operations.

While certain counties in CA may have their own restrictions, 6 flowering plants are allowed state-wide I'm told. There are cooperatives and the like that extend the number, but for the individual patient / grower, half-a-dozen budding plants are likely enough...

Boutiques will thrive, even in a land of Wal-marts...
Comment
»Rob Content«

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 4348
Share

Post
#32

03-30-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Stephen

There are beautiful (and not so) dispenseries all around California where you can walk in (with your card / rec) and peruse a wide variety of high-quality, medicinal offerings ? row upon row of jars with sample buds in them. Sure, the price can be high (no pun intended), with 1/8s up to $55 ? but this is typically a lot better quality than the $200/oz you might get from a friend or out on the street...

While certain counties in CA may have their own restrictions, 6 flowering plants are allowed state-wide I'm told. There are cooperatives and the like that extend the number, but for the individual patient / grower, half-a-dozen budding plants are likely enough...

Boutiques will thrive, even in a land of Wal-marts...

What does any of this have to do with pot being fully legalized?

80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
>> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom
Comment
D-Money

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 9716
Share

Post
#33

03-30-2009, 11:17 AM

Just seems strange that it's legal to drink (over 21) and doctors can decide whether or not you can have xanax and other hard drugs. But if you take a bong hit or smoke a joint, that's totally illegal (without a medicinal card in a few states).

The answer seems simple. Make a chart of all drugs and categorize the bad verses the good affects. You'll find weed is basically like booze, but not as bad. Then make a chart for how much money each drug brings into the US economy (include booze). Legalize it, make it 21 and over or on a doctors prescription. Or we can all lose our homes and go broke while we all debate it.

Peter Tosh was a wise man...

Still Ballin'
Comment
Stephen

Consigliere

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 1771
Share

Post
#34

03-30-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

What does any of this have to do with pot being fully legalized?

For many Californians, it is legal (at least at the state level)

You may not see it "legalized" on a national level the way some folks want, but the fact of the matter is that thousands of people can walk into a commercial retail outlet today and legally walk out with all the buds, edibles, extracts, and more that they want...
Comment
tical

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 6504
Share

Post
#35

03-30-2009, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

There is a plethora of things that would create a mess. How about how much the government would tax marijuana. Remember now if it was legalized you have have to go to the store to buy it, and the store would have hours. And the better the weed the higher the price. So what you pay now for say an ounce of good weed, would be a lot more expensive. Because it would become a mainstream multi million dollar operation. Also remember it would still be illegal to grow, and there would be rules and licensing to growing it, and well all the small time guys would be put out of business because the tobacco companies would open large growing operations.

You know about DUI... There would be a DUH driving while high, yes it would 100% happen. So no more smoking a J and then driving home, pulled over and fucked.

It would be a true nightmare for pot smokers are the gov would mandate everything, tax the shit out of it. Just like smokes you would have a state and federal tax, and since they would want to get as much out of it as possible it would be taxed to all hell.

And then it would also become hip and trendy, so you'd have the cheap weed and the designer weed. It would be the same as alcohol, the better the wine the more you pay. So when it would come to getting some nice BC budz that are nice and sticky, be ready to pay 3 times what you pay now, can't afford it all the time, get ready for a lot more brown and dry mexican stuff.

The prices would also become a lot more expensive when you take into consideration of the shipping of the marijuana from where it is grown to where it will be distrusted. So if it's grown in say California, it will need to be shipped around the country and real companies would have to be used. This will need to take into cost of operating a business. When I send it out I will have to use a proper service, pay someone to load and unload it, package it, the shipment itself. Getting weed from somewhere not in the USA you have to pay the importing tax as well.

No more giving someone a free ounce or two and having them drive a trunkload of it somewhere.

I can go on and on for hours, but these are just a few things.

I think you're over analyzing the situation.

Look at the pharmaceutical industry for instance, as soon as patents expire & generics can be made (with the same effectiveness) they are sold for WAY cheaper than the prescription drug. Marijuana can't be patented, therefore it isn't subject to that kind of proprietary pricing.

Prices won't go up - they will go down. Marijuana already has a decent price & it is ILLEGAL! How would legalizing it make it more expensive? The same people would just continue growing top notch shit and selling it for the same price if that was the case...

Last - if you're high and driving you should have to deal with the consequences - you are impaired!

Last edited by tical; 03-30-2009, 11:29 AM.

112.020.756
Comment
»Rob Content«

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 4348
Share

Post
#36

03-30-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by tical

I think you're over analyzing the situation.

Look at the pharmaceutical industry for instance, as soon as patents expire & generics can be made (with the same effectiveness) they are sold for WAY cheaper than the prescription drug. Marijuana can't be patented, therefore it isn't subject to that kind of proprietary pricing.

Prices won't go up - they will go down. Marijuana already has a decent price & it is ILLEGAL! How would legalizing it make it more expensive? The same people would just continue growing top notch shit and selling it for the same price if that was the case...

Last - if you're high and driving you should have to deal with the consequences - you are impaired!

ok let me see here...

Points to be made:

1) The comparison to pharmaceuticals is moot and arbitrary. the entire point of patents and generic branding is that various drugs can be copied and manufactured. this isn't the case with marijuana. moot point. what it IS subject to is government interference and regulation/policies surrounding cost.

2) Prices will not go down. it's arbitrary to compare the price of illegal marijuana with legal marijuana, because the dynamics are totally different. government regulation will result in a government run 'industry', much like cigarettes and alcohol, where the government sets prices and makes a profit off those products. costs will include taxes, manufacturing, transport, testing, etc.

Legalizing it will make it more expensive simply through government involvement. As it stands there is no 'middle man', there is no regulation, and the users and producers set their own prices as per societal norms and acceptable practices.

Sure, the 'same people could just continue to grow', but if the government now has a brand new industry, they will want to curb that with every possible effort. There will be an increased rise in prosecution for drug crimes that cannot be proved to have been purchased from a regulated vendor, and increased penalties for those caught growing/distributing. And setting up as a regulated vendor would be highly costly. This makes for a hostile environment for the 'growers'. Will it curb it? no, but it will make it a less appealing and attractive method of business.

It will be more difficult to find a quality 'dealer' because no one will want to take on anyone new as a 'client'.

Take a look over the past 15 years and how much more expensive cigarettes have gotten. They are what now 5-9 bucks a pack depending on where you are. Remember when they were less then 2 bucks a handful of years ago, and the govt will likely do with marijuana what they did/do with cigarettes. Jack the price up, under the guise of 'betterment of people' and 'incentive to quit' while still making MAD profit off the industry, due to GOVERNMENT REGULATION.

I think this is good for now.

80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
>> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom
Comment
TheDoc

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 13827
Share

Post
#37

03-30-2009, 12:31 PM

Rob do you smoke?

As of right now, the Gov and State aren't the ones making the Pot. The people are.

Prices will go down... The more the GOV produces, the more it gets on the streets, the more it gets in my hands, the more everything drops in price. More = Less Cost.... More higher quality strains, means we all end up with higher quality strains.

The quality 'on average' is better in Canada and at least 1/2 the cost, and the cost has gone down as it become more legal.

Growing pot to sell it, is about as illegal as it gets right now. It curbs nobody now it will curb nobody later. Dealers don't take walk-ins, they take word of mouth referrals - which are safe.

While I can prob grow tobacco, I can't grow my brand smokes or make them. I can't grow my own personal crop in a closest, attic or in the back corner of the woods. I have never seen fields of wild tobacco growing, or random crops in the woods..

This is why I asked if you smoked. If you did or do, you would understand how it works more. Right now our pot is super over priced based on its quality, because it's illegal. Every other Country that has legalized it, went the other direction in costs - ours would be no different.

~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
It's all disambiguation
Comment
collegeboobies

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Jul 2004

Posts: 3644
Share

Post
#38

03-30-2009, 12:56 PM

it wont be legalized
Comment
Tom_PM

Porn Meister

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 16443
Share

Post
#39

03-30-2009, 12:59 PM

I bet if you DID grow a tobacco crop and got busted, you'd be in pretty deep doo anyway. Zoning laws?, is it toxic to native animals?, destructive to native flora? etc etc etc. You could still hit the jail. You'd need to check your local zoning laws, just like if you wanted to have a pot bellied pig as a pet.

43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
Comment
»Rob Content«

Confirmed User

Join Date: Dec 2006

Posts: 4348
Share

Post
#40

03-30-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

As of right now, the Gov and State aren't the ones making the Pot. The people are.

I fail to see the relevance here, as we are discussing the implications of legalization.

Originally posted by TheDoc

Prices will go down... The more the GOV produces, the more it gets on the streets, the more it gets in my hands, the more everything drops in price. More = Less Cost.... More higher quality strains, means we all end up with higher quality strains.

Economics 101. supply does not always dictate cost. DEMAND DICTATES COST.

Originally posted by TheDoc

The quality 'on average' is better in Canada and at least 1/2 the cost, and the cost has gone down as it become more legal.

There is no such thing as 'more' or 'less' legal. there is legal and illegal. criminal and not criminal. prohibited and unprohibited. one should ask oneself WHY it is 'more legal'.

Originally posted by TheDoc

Growing pot to sell it, is about as illegal as it gets right now. It curbs nobody now it will curb nobody later. Dealers don't take walk-ins, they take word of mouth referrals - which are safe.

No, carrying in large amounts is also illegal. the only reason they don't bother with small amounts is because it's pot, and not crack. we're not discussing the amounts of usage. we're discussing the benefits/negatives of legalization.

Originally posted by TheDoc

While I can prob grow tobacco, I can't grow my brand smokes or make them. I can't grow my own personal crop in a closest, attic or in the back corner of the woods. I have never seen fields of wild tobacco growing, or random crops in the woods..

Epic fail on missing the point. tobacco is a natural product much like marijuana. with tobacco the government has regulated it, and allowed various chemicals be introduced in order to lessen the effect, resulting in more usage, resulting in more profit.

Originally posted by TheDoc

Every other Country that has legalized it, went the other direction in costs - ours would be no different.

Source?

80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds
3 & 5mins FLVs | RSS & Tube Feeds | Matching Thumbs | FLV Browser & Exporter | No Prechecked Xsales
>> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

ICQ - 436 795 438 E-mail rob /@/ cool-content dotcom
Comment
baddog

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 107089
Share

Post
#41

03-30-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Every other Country that has legalized it, went the other direction in costs - ours would be no different.

Really? What country have you visited where the weed was cheaper?
Comment
webair

Confirmed User

Join Date: Feb 2002

Posts: 8531
Share

Post
#42

03-30-2009, 02:15 PM

Large tobacco companies are poised to produce and distribute Marijuana cigarettes! It's just a matter of time...cant wait =))

Last edited by webair; 03-30-2009, 02:20 PM.

~ Webair Dedicated Cloud Servers™ ~ WEBAIR VSYS™ Virtual Hosting Platform ~ Superior CDN Network ~
~ Managed Dedicated hosting Specialists ~ DISCOUNT DOMAIN NAMES! ~ WEBAIR FUSION IO MANAGED CLOUD SERVERS! ~

ICQ: 243116321 - TWITTER - @WEBAIRINC - E-Mail: [email protected]
Comment
TheDoc

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 13827
Share

Post
#43

03-30-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

I fail to see the relevance here, as we are discussing the implications of legalization.

Umm... and what I'm I not talking about? Do I have to like quote the starting post, and only talk on that subject? Is that like the RULES of GFY or forum whoring or something?

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

Economics 101. supply does not always dictate cost. DEMAND DICTATES COST.

Demand? I CAN GROW IT MYSELF... Understand that demand...

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

There is no such thing as 'more' or 'less' legal. there is legal and illegal. criminal and not criminal. prohibited and unprohibited. one should ask oneself WHY it is 'more legal'.

You brought up some way that it would be more illegal.. that the gov was going to make it worse. Right now, pot and crack - are on the same scale as murder.

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

No, carrying in large amounts is also illegal. the only reason they don't bother with small amounts is because it's pot, and not crack. we're not discussing the amounts of usage. we're discussing the benefits/negatives of legalization.

Most people in jail are in for very small, personal, amounts... We are discussing whatever is brought up on any area of the subject..

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

Epic fail on missing the point. tobacco is a natural product much like marijuana. with tobacco the government has regulated it, and allowed various chemicals be introduced in order to lessen the effect, resulting in more usage, resulting in more profit.

The Gov didn't allow any part of this, the Companies just did it.. then it was found out they did it, they paid for it. The regulated it because it has killed millions of people. Pot, doesn't do that....

Originally posted by »Rob Content«

Source?

Source? Like they have articles written up that cover this subject.. Is that like a bunch of doctor Stoners getting together spending billions to research this?

The source is Canada, Amsterdam and other Countries that legalized it or don't care. The cost of pot is low.. hellish low. You buy an oz here of good shit for $400 - That's about the most expensive pot in the fucking world.

And demand.. Dude, I can guy pounds of the best bud in 24 hours in almost every state in America. The MORE Cali has introduced it into the medical system - The less dry the ENTIRE U.S. has gotten.

Source, ask anyone that lives in the South how hard it was to buy pot 5 years ago vs. today.

~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
It's all disambiguation
Comment
TheDoc

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 13827
Share

Post
#44

03-30-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Really? What country have you visited where the weed was cheaper?

Canada... I lived in Canada too, fuck visiting.. At least 1/2 the cost, more like 2/3 less. What we pay for true dirt, is what they pay for prime shit.

~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
It's all disambiguation
Comment
baddog

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 107089
Share

Post
#45

03-30-2009, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Canada... I lived in Canada too, fuck visiting.. At least 1/2 the cost, more like 2/3 less. What we pay for true dirt, is what they pay for prime shit.

Since I have never been to Canada I will have to take your word for it even though I have not seen any indication that weed is "legal" there. But weed is not cheaper in every country that has legalized/decriminalized it. It isn't better than what I can buy at the store either.
Comment
TheDoc

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 13827
Share

Post
#46

03-30-2009, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by baddog

Since I have never been to Canada I will have to take your word for it even though I have not seen any indication that weed is "legal" there. But weed is not cheaper in every country that has legalized/decriminalized it. It isn't better than what I can buy at the store either.

What we pay $400 for in America for, Canadians pay less than $250 Canadian. The same scale of bud, in Amsterdam is about on scale with Canada.

The costs only levels out, and it's still much more expensive here.. once you hit the highest quality strains. And you can't buy those in Stores here, yet... Just the really good shit, not the mind blowing shit.

Weed in Canada, I don't think it's 'legal' straight up. But in BC they have smoke shops, and in Alberta they give you like a $15 fine - if they even care. We walked past a cop rolling one up and he told us to put it away.

~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
It's all disambiguation
Comment
Stephen

Consigliere

Join Date: Feb 2003

Posts: 1771
Share

Post
#47

03-30-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

More higher quality strains, means we all end up with higher quality strains.

The legitimate end of the cannibusiness today is all about the genetics ? an endeavor as serious among the elite as it is any other field where the basic building blocks of life are being optimized and preserved. This ain't yo' daddy's ragweed and examples (clones) of these strains are becomming pretty widespread (which tends to dillute the pedigree but the net increase in quality is undeniable).

Or so I'm told.
Comment
CyberHustler

Masterbaiter

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posts: 28741
Share

Post
#48

03-30-2009, 02:44 PM

Fuck decriminalizing it... make the shit legal.. Fuck all the bullshit. If the illegal growers wanna complain, then fine. I don't care. The legal shit is way better anyway.

“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
Comment
TheDoc

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jul 2001

Posts: 13827
Share

Post
#49

03-30-2009, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Stephen

The legitimate end of the cannibusiness today is all about the genetics ? an endeavor as serious among the elite as it is any other field where the basic building blocks of life are being optimized and preserved. This ain't yo' daddy's ragweed and examples (clones) of these strains are becomming pretty widespread (which tends to dillute the pedigree but the net increase in quality is undeniable).

Or so I'm told.

Everything about pot is about Genetics. The people making 'legitimate pot' aren't doctors, most probably never when to high school.

If you clone correctly, you improve the strain.... that's why you clone.

~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
It's all disambiguation
Comment
baddog

So Fucking Banned

Join Date: Apr 2001

Posts: 107089
Share

Post
#50

03-30-2009, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

What we pay $400 for in America for, Canadians pay less than $250 Canadian. The same scale of bud, in Amsterdam is about on scale with Canada.

The costs only levels out, and it's still much more expensive here.. once you hit the highest quality strains. And you can't buy those in Stores here, yet... Just the really good shit, not the mind blowing shit.

Weed in Canada, I don't think it's 'legal' straight up. But in BC they have smoke shops, and in Alberta they give you like a $15 fine - if they even care. We walked past a cop rolling one up and he told us to put it away.

I presume you are comparing Arizona weed to Canadian. Until you have visited a few Calif co-ops you really have no idea how good we have it here. And again, Amsterdam is not cheaper and it definitely is not better (at least what is available in the coffee shops. I hear rumors that the locals can get better, but you know what they say about rumors).
Comment

Previous 1 2 template Next

Working...