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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho
In other words, could this be also very badly paraphrased that democrats are more targeting the poor and problematic while Republicans target more the conservative / orthodox among of those less educated classes?
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I think the democrats knowingly go after the poor and problematic. They are the party that doesn't want anyone to fail. They are the party that wants everyone to be equal and I think they purposely target those who are in need.
The republicans do target lower income people as well, but I think they do it more from the religion aspect. They target them with things they know will sell like gun control and abortion and a strong military.
To me it is just opposite sides of the coin. Both parties target poor people with their ideals, they just go after different demographics and use different tactics.
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Interesting observation, regarding the "patriot act" I doubt they had other chance to justify their huge theft of government money called Iraq other way than to paint a new devil on the wall and call all "patriots" to arms.
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If Clinton would have tried to pass the patriot act (during a time when there was no terrorist attack on US soil) the republican ran house and senate would have tore him apart. Only when the nation was scared and looking for security was something like this possible. The modern republican party is nothing like the republican party used to be. They are not for less government. Under Bush they created an entire new branch of government (homeland security) and the patriot act alone is one of the biggest piece of government intervention crap ever to pass. They say they are for less government, but really they are not. They say they are for more state and local government's rights. But that is not true either. They are for those rights, as long as those rights coincide with what they believe. For example, the state I live in passed a measure making doctor assisted suicide legal. The Bush administration ran to the state and challenged it. The challenge kind of worked and it ended up back on the ballot where it passed again and again they challenged it. Eventually their challenges were overruled and the law was put into effect to which they then said they may still go after doctors who prescribe the drugs on a federal level. They did the same thing with medical marijuana.
To me it is all a means to an end. The democrats will use the economy and they will use the excuse of helping those who cannot help themselves or who are less fortunate as a way to pass their far reaching government programs. The republicans will use the "sanctity of life" and the security of the country as their way of doing the exact same things.